(not satire – strangely enough)
Actually, when you look at the history – it’s not such a far-fetched theory.
We know for a fact that back in the early 1970s, the police had an extensive file of abuse allegations against Smith.
We also know for a fact that in the 70s the file mysteriously went missing.
A former Special Branch officer says the file was requested by MI5 after which it was never seen again.
None of the above facts are disputed. They’ve all been reported in the mainstream press. Here’s a link to a Telegraph article about it, a publication not generally known for being a hotbed of lefty conspiracy theories.
OK. So Smith was probably protected from prosecution by some elements of the UK security services.
But why would MI5 bother protecting a Rochdale Liberal MP from allegations of child abuse? His downfall could hardly have been a matter of national security.
The answer becomes clear if you know something about the political history at the time.
The general election in 1974 produced the first hung parliament since the Second World War. Although Harold Wilson’s Labour Party had won the most seats – it had failed to get an overall majority.
We now know that in the 1960s and 1970s, certain rogue elements of the security services – who were sympathetic to the Conservative Party and were worried about Soviet influence of UK unions which were bankrolling the Labour Party – had sought to undermine Labour politicians in an operation called ‘Clockwork Orange’.
Again all of this is well-documented and – apart from some of the finer details – pretty much undisputed today.
After the 1974 election, negotiations began between the incumbent Prime Minister Edward Heath’s Conservative Party and Jeremy Thorpes’ Liberals to form a coalition government together.
In 1974, Cyril Smith was one of the leading lights of the Liberals and he most certainly would have been offered a ministerial seat in any Conservative-Liberal coalition government cabinet.
Needless to say, the allegations of abuse the police were preparing against Smith would have scuppered any hopes of a coalition agreement.
And when did the Smith abuse file disappear after MI5 requested it from Special Branch?
Yes, you’ve guessed it.
In 1974 – at the same time Smith’s Liberal Party were negotiating a coalition agreement with the Tories.
It looks suspiciously to me like elements of MI5 decided they were not going to allow negotiations to keep out a Labour government to be scuppered by such a trivial matter as a child abuse scandal involving a probable future cabinet minister.
What do you think?
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For more on the MI5 plot against Harold Wilson and other Labour politicians in the 60s and 70s, see this article by Jonathan Freedland:
Enough of this cover-up: the Wilson plot was our Watergate
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The Madlands said:
I think you may have hit the nail on the head. It certainly is a compelling reason, given the nightmare situation at the time.
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misty53 said:
Nothing would surprise me, we know that the #ConDems are a bunch of liars and have absolutely no consience what so ever!
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calvin227 said:
interesting read … but they went on to destroy Jeremy Thorpe …
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Tom Pride said:
Or maybe he just wasn’t worth protecting?
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minou999 said:
A decision not to prosecute was made in 1970 and the CPS review in 1998 decided not to charge Smith – these dates lie outside your hypothesis for the 1974 election. At both times Smith could have been charged without “endangering” the coalition imho. And as was rightly pointed out, Jeremy Thorpe got pushed under a bus.
I would say that other considerations were and are operating, who knows what these are. It’s certainly apparent that lack of evidence – although this is the most trotted out excuse – is not the real reason why charges are never brought. On the contrary, evidence is gathered (sometimes phenomenal amounts of it) and then hidden or destroyed.
Maybe certain factions thought that there was a real cold war going on, compartmentalisation of the security services helps to keep the real controllers and the real reasons out of the public eye and to keep certain factions always fighting between themselves.
There has to be another reason why paedophilia is so protected. Looks like we’re never going to find out how much the BBC were into child abuse either with the “independent and thorough” investigations being kept under wraps.
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bobchewie said:
Peter Wright admitted as much, ” we bugged and burgled our way across london” oh abd who tried to stop the publication of his book? Mrs Thatcher of course. Then Colin Wallace was fitted up after refusing to smear Wilson. Security bods wanted a strike to go ahead so it would discredit wilson.
Kincorra boys home got covered up. The loyalist nazis that security were dealing with were abusing kids . People in right wing establishment regarded IRA as communists.
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bobchewie said:
I noted in recent revellations about smith it was added that stuff was added to suggest that smiths activities were ‘outside of his political career’ .. Hmm so why tell us that?
Sorry to me that statement itself hints at cover up.
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bobchewie said:
Peter Wright was convinced that Wilson was a KGB place man. Supported by James jesus Angleton head of CIA at the time. Even a tory MP who met Angleton thought he was a nut.
it was to do with hugh gaitskill who died in ‘mysterious circumstances’ ie rare illness. Wright was convinced that gaitskill was bumped off so that Wilson ( he thought was run by KGB ) would replace him. There was stuff about Lord Gannex (the raincoat man) who was only interested in flogging his raincoats to the russians, hence some visits to russia.
There was an anti terrorist alert connected with tanks at heathrow, wilson wonderd if it was a trial run for a military take over of britain.
Also a plot by extreme right wing nuts who were planning a military coup whereby mount batten would take over as head of state.
This was given the ok by queen mother.
There were some real crazies in this group including hughie green the tv compere. He had been in RAF and was known to have strong anti trade union views amongst other things well sex relationship with a monica rose who was on his show and er ‘quite young’ at the time.
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bobchewie said:
By the way have you seen the celebrity paedophile list? Chris reasoning behind who is pretty interesting, wyman ( mandy smith) roman polanski ( er welll documented) jerry lee lewis (er well yeah) woody allen ( hmm) he also suggests other top film directors ( dinosaur lovers) and other celebs one of which is known as monarch of rock and roll.
(Priscilla thing)
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bobchewie said:
Re : clockwork orange , airey neve who helped maggie thatcher become leader against edward heath , it was claimed that miltary coup was no longer needed once she became leader and then PM. Neve was killed by IRA. , Carlton Club was targetted by IRA . Lord Whatsisname the suing the planet fella was targetted by IRA..
Kincorra boys home victims abused by neo bazi anti commie loyalists ,nearly coverd up by security bods in northern ireland.,
Anyone see anything here?
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bobchewie said:
Well murkier and murkier, edward heath was in the frame as a possible uno what, but of course the security bods and very rightists wanted maggie to be leader , neve was part of that lot, hence the wallace thing, but kincorra was hidden as result..
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bobchewie said:
Re clockwork orange and the cabal behind UK military take over of Britain. Wilson plot etc..,
Right up until its final shows, Opportunity Knocks was a ratings hit that attracted 18 million viewers weekly. But Green, known for his right-wing politics, had decided he was bigger than the show format he devised and began politicising an apolitical family-friendly format. It has been suggested that Green believed that Harold Wilson and his Labour government were Communists and that Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh should replace Wilson as leader of the country and, to that end, used Opportunity Knocks as an end-of-year soapbox, telling the country at the end of 1974 to ‘wake up!’ Two years later, in December 1976 Green sang a rant about the state of the United Kingdom called “Stand Up and Be Counted” with the words coming up in subtitles: “Stand up and be counted, where the managers manage and the workers don’t go on strike”. It was released as a single in 1977. Partly seen as an open support of Conservative Party leader Margaret Thatcher, he was disciplined by Thames Television, but continued to make political comments. After numerous viewer complaints, Thames axed the show in March 1978, despite attracting high ratings, something Green mentioned in a bitter rant against Thames in his last show. Family-friendly Opportunity Knocks was replaced by youth-oriented comedy The Kenny Everett Video Show which attracted 10 million viewers.[7]
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bobchewie said:
This stuff about hughie green is even odder, but makes one wonder.
Green numerous affairs mostly with young women, it was even alleged he was ‘knocking off’ co host monica rose who when first appeared was only 15…
Secondly from this piece it says he took his tv show ‘double your money’ to russia,?? A tv show hosted by someone know to have anti communist views? Anyone want to speculate what was going on there? What with MI5 stuff and wilson plot etc etc?
“Green became a household name in 1955, with the ITV quiz show Double Your Money (which had actually originated some years earlier on Radio Luxembourg). Green brought his future co-host Monica Rose to the screen. The chirpy 15-year-old Cockney junior accounts clerk won £8 answering questions on famous women and was later invited back by Green to be a hostess.
In 1966 (aired 8 November 1966 at 7pm), Hughie Green presented the show from The House of Friendship in Moscow, Russia. Along with Monica Rose, he also had Natasha Vasylyeva as assistants. Because the Communist Party would not allow money as a prize, the top prize was a television set (source Television’s Greatest Hits, 1993 book).”
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bobchewie said:
And he means this most sincerely: http://youtu.be/TGzzhxEHgAw
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bobchewie said:
Hughie Green’s call to the nation “stand up and be counted”. Jeez tedious at worst. Anti communist propaganda in its direst form:
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bobchewie said:
Monica Rose sadly took her own life.,
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/whatever-happened-to-monica-rose-after-doubling-her-money-851914.html
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bobchewie said:
“When Double Your Money was taken to the Soviet Union in 1965, the Soviet cultural attache in London made it a condition that ‘the little cockney girl Monica’ went with the show.” Obit on monica rose.
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bobchewie said:
Bringing things up to date with allo allo whats going on here? :
http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2012/11/rob-wilson-attacks-tom-watson-on-child-abuse-claims/
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bobchewie said:
Sorry tom not entirely off topic but couldnt find place to post , but please feel free to repost in proper blog if you want. I think you made a reference to it earlier on. And if mysty or misty is reading this then , am not on twitter as they have seen fit to kick me off again.. Not sure why , maybe assisting disabled rights activists has become illegal or its upset someone who would prefer i didnt..
Ok heres that insurance case in connection with bryn alyn.
http://www.mjsol.co.uk/library/cases/child-abuse/kr-royal-sun-alliance-plc-2006/
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bobchewie said:
http://www.mjsol.co.uk/library/cases/child-abuse/kr-bryn-alyn-community-holdings-limited-liquidation-royal-sun-alliance-plc-2003/
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Grayling said:
http://rochdaleraw.blogspot.co.uk/2009/02/cyril-smith-gangster-and-pervert-peer.html
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Slutocrat said:
I’m confused how this one guy being charged with sex abuse would’ve changed history by stopping a coalition from forming? Yeah, he was ‘in line’ to be a minister, but still he’s just one minister. This might be due to my ignorance of Clockwork Orange (internal espionage stuff doesn’t really interest me, it’s foreign stuff I tend to find interesting). And if it was rogue elements of MI5/the Security Service that destroyed the file, it’s not really MI5 that covered it up if those elements weren’t following MI5’s orders. The legal responsibility would fall on the individuals and if they didn’t get away with it, it would’ve followed ordinary prosecution as it’s unrelated to espionage/national security. Like how those guys at MI6 sold secrets to the Russians- they were acting against MI6’s wishes and there is no vicarious liability.
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Maria Muller said:
Reggie Perrin ” The Forces of Anarchy ” sketch – looks like the scriptwriter was ” inspired ” by Operation Clockwork Orange https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nxo0fS2VMM&feature=youtu.be
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