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Out of all the many blunders committed by the government so far in its response to the devastating flooding, surely forgetting to apply for cash for the flood victims from the EU’s Solidarity Fund has got to be the biggest.
In 2007, the UK received £127m from the EU to help flood victims after the devastating flooding during the summer. But this time the government hasn’t even applied for the money.
EU governments have 10 weeks to apply for the cash – which means it’s already too late to claim for money to help the first victims of the flooding, some of whom were affected as far back as last November.
Of course, some very, very cynical people might say the government hasn’t forgotten to claim the money at all – Cameron just decided it wouldn’t be politically comfortable to be seen to be getting help from the EU at a time he’s trying to demonise the organisation in order to placate his rabidly anti-EU right-wing.
But we’re not that cynical. Are we?
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pippakin said:
Reblogged this on Political Pip Spit or Swallow its up to You and commented:
Cameron can’t help it he is just living down to our expectations
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Chris Blackmore (The Walrus) said:
It’s far from being the only thing they don’t bother to apply for.
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Editor said:
Reblogged this on kickingthecat.
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MrChekaMan said:
The sooner he is booted, the better.
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beastrabban said:
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Paul Smyth said:
Reblogged this on The Greater Fool.
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grumpyman73 said:
Well if we weren’t in the EU we would have an extra £30billion a year to spend.
If Scotland bugger off too we can double that annually. Pleant of money to spend on flood defences etc.
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sandra bowes-rennox said:
WHAT A DICK….if Cameron had as much wit as he has shit he would be a genius…the sooner this tory shit is out the better…THE FIGHT GOES ON…regards…sandra
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Matt said:
your joking right? with all the cuts to welfare etc who did he give the tax cuts too? wasnt us.. it was everyone with more money than sense already!! if scotland left the uk and we had more money or if we left the EU we wouldnt see a penny!!
they would just find newer ways to pour it into their donors pockets.
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paulsands said:
weren’t the earlier floods a bot more northern? these latest ones will get the money
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grumpyman73 said:
Matt you are very bitter and angry.
If you used that energy to strive forwards yourselves rather than moan about what other people have, you would do better.
A little story about tax for you. No doubt you wont iunderstand and definitely wont agree!!
Suppose that every day, ten men go out for beer and the bill for all ten comes to $100. If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes, it would go something like this: The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing. The fifth would pay $1. The sixth would pay $3. The seventh would pay $7. The eighth would pay $12. The ninth would pay $18. The tenth man (the richest) would pay $59. So, that’s what they decided to do.
The ten men drank in the bar every day and seemed quite happy with the arrangement, until one day, the owner threw them a curve. ‘Since you are all such good customers, he said, ‘I’m going to reduce the cost of your daily beer by $20. Drinks for the ten now cost just$80. The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes so the first four men were unaffected. They would still drink for free. But, what about the other six men; the paying customers? How could they divide the $20 windfall so that everyone would get his ‘fair share?’ They realized that $20 divided by six is $3.33. But if they subtracted that from everybody’s share, then the fifth man and the sixth man would each end up being paid to drink his beer. So, the bar owner suggested that it would be fair to reduce each man’s bill by roughly the same amount, and he proceeded to work out the amounts each should pay.
And so: The fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing (100% savings). The sixth now paid $2 instead of $3 (33%savings). The seventh now paid $5 instead of $7 (28%savings). The eighth now paid $9 instead of $12 (25% savings). The ninth now paid $14 instead of $18 (22% savings). The tenth now paid $49 instead of $59 (16% savings). Each of the six was better off than before. And the first four continued to drink for free.
But once outside the restaurant, the men began to compare their savings. ‘I only got a dollar out of the $20,’declared the sixth man. He pointed to the tenth man,’ but he got $10!’ ‘Yeah, that’s right,’ exclaimed the fifth man. ‘I only saved a dollar, too. It’s unfair that he got ten times more than I!’ ‘That’s true!’ shouted the seventh man. ‘Why should he get $10 back when I got only two? The wealthy get all the breaks!’ ‘Wait a minute,’ yelled the first four men in unison. ‘We didn’t get anything at all. The system exploits the poor!’ The nine men surrounded the tenth and beat him up.
The next night the tenth man didn’t show up for drinks, so the nine sat down and had beers without him. But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered something important. They didn’t have enough money between all of them for even half of the bill! And that, boys and girls, journalists and college professors, is how our tax system works. The people who pay the highest taxes get the most benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy, and they just may not show up anymore. In fact, they might start drinking overseas where the atmosphere is somewhat friendlier.
David R. Kamerschen, Ph.D. Professor of Economics, University of Georgia.
For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not understand, no explanation is possible
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Ian Morisson said:
all part of the (EU) plan . . .run down UK
DC=the HMV dog
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neiley101 said:
Reblogged this on The World of Neil.
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Mike Sivier said:
Reblogged this on Vox Political and commented:
Oh, he FORGOT to apply for the EU cash, did he?
Well! That makes it all right, then. He’d better get on with it now.
Or is it too late?
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diane said:
grumpyman73 Confusing analogy? what about the tax avoiders’? I take it the drinks are on the house everytime for them?
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sean said:
I understand that you don’t understand taxation grumpy.
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thelovelywibblywobblyoldlady said:
@Diane I think the tax avoider is the owner of the bar. He takes all the money given to him but he doesn’t put it in the till; it goes straight in his pocket!
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Verite said:
According to Le Figaro today, Cameron HAS asked for aid from the fund on Thursday.
Doesn’t appear to be reported anywhere else. The comments section is huge and priceless – the French mostly not amused – many saying we criticise/want out of Europe yet now want their help, asking if we want it in euros, before or after the Referendum and suggesting we institute the Robin Hood tax on the bankers to raise the money or ask the Queen. Seems the French don’t like Cameron much, although to be fair, some did say of course they should help, as we are their neighbour and were their allies in the war.
Any way of verifying this?
http://www.lefigaro.fr/international/2014/02/14/01003-20140214ARTFIG00092-inondations-en-angleterre-cameron-demande-l-aide-de-l-europe.php
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kathrynd1 said:
Oh grumpy? Being such a genius, you know Dr. Kamerschen denies writing this little anectdote, of course.
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A6er said:
Reblogged this on Britain Isn't Eating and commented:
From Pride’s Purge, Tom offers his thoughts on why Ca-moron didnt apply to the EU’s Solidarity Fund after the recent floods devastation.
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kathrynd1 said:
And we get a little something back. Do a little research, grumpy. Britain’s annual net contribution to the EU is between 5 – 6 bill. Euros. Nevertheless, I agree we need to get out.
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Deborah Hinchliffe said:
Cameron is such a dipstick!
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jaypot2012 said:
Cameron is not interested in those who live in northern areas, he’s shown he’s not interested in Somerset, Devon and Cornwall – well, pretty much everywhere except along the Thames.
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jaypot2012 said:
Reblogged this on Jay's Journal.
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vomsters said:
And the anecdote has changed every time I see it – sometimes it’s a beer, sometimes it’s a meal, sometimes it’s lunch, sometimes it’s students having a drink/food… one of the signals that something is either a hoax or a scam/lie is that the details keep changing.
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nedhamson said:
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grumpyman73 said:
Kathrynd1
It is an analogy and as such whovever written by is somewhat irrelevant as it is the principles therein that are of importance. I think ou figures are wrong but even if only £6billion (only!!) it is better in our pockets that theirs. A lot can be done with that much – more tax breaks for the rich!
Vomsters
You really should have worked harder at school – it is an analogy not an anecdote and whether it is beer, hot dogs, they are men, women, wearing hats, all called George etc., is completely irrelevant. It is the principles involved that are important – principles that clearly are too advanced for you.
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grumpyman73 said:
Diane
Confusing analogy? Really?
Nothing wrong with tax avoidance – why would anyone from the poorest to the richest pay more tax than they have to?
Tony Blairs company earned £13 million last year – he paid £200k tax. Or 1.5% tax and he is meant to be everyone’s socialist hero.
Tax evasion is the problem and that goes on amongst all levels of society.
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sidthemanager said:
Bang on Diane – apart from the bit about Blair being a “socialist hero”. He is and was neither, albeit some of us more naive voters thought he might make a difference after years of the “I’m alright Jack” culture in government. Whether it’s Vodafone’s £5 billion or the plumbers dodgy “how much for cash” response, the tax dodgers have assisted in closing down fire stations and A&E departments. Flood defences that have been cut can also be attributed to lack of money too which could have come from people and organisations being more honest and not sticking what they had in Swiss bank accounts. Add to that the point that Governments of every political colour except the greens have frittered our taxes and wasted billions whilst talking of accountability, transparency, responsibility blah blah.
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argotina1 said:
Reblogged this on Benefit tales.
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