(not satire – I’m sorry to say)
There have been rumours for some time now that some people – police, journalists, hackers – are able to trace personal phone numbers and home addresses of Twitter users if the user was accessing Twitter from a mobile phone.
I’m not sure of the legality or not of the alleged methods used – but needless to say it bypasses the expensive and time-consuming proper method of getting a legal notice to force Twitter to reveal information about its users.
I was therefore very interested when it was brought to my attention that a journalist who regularly writes for the Mail and the Express was openly boasting on Twitter that she had used her ‘contacts’ to ‘trace’ the personal numbers and home addresses of people she claimed had been trolling her*.
Now given the disgraceful recent history of journalists hacking personal phones – many people are understandably quite worried about the possibility of having their personal information so available to newspapers.
So I decided to politely ask her about it:
I’m deliberately not naming her in this article because I don’t want the story to become one of personalities any more than it already has – but if you look at my Twitter timeline here you can see the identity of the journalist in question.
To cut a long story short, my polite enquiry resulted in the journalist not denying the accusation but still refusing to answer how she managed to get the phone numbers and other personal information. She then blocked me and called me a w**ker.
She was also joined by a couple of her supporters who spent the next 24 hours or so very aggressively insulting and trolling me.
Needless to say this only made me even more sure I was onto something.
So I had a look at her timeline, and sure enough she clearly states she was ‘given’ the phone numbers of her so-called trolls*:
In conversation with a couple of her followers, she also very clearly states that her ‘contacts’ or what she calls her ‘techies’ managed to ‘trace’ the numbers for her:
This is all very worrying. Apart from the fact here we have a journalist for a national newspaper using her ‘contacts’ to trace Twitter users’ phone numbers and addresses in order to fulfil some sort of personal vendetta* – is this not also proof that journalists – and presumably police or other organisations – are able to bypass Twitter’s privacy and security methods at will?
Have UK newspapers learned nothing after what they did to Milly Dowler’s family?
What do you think?
*Tomorrow I’ll write more about the real reasons why this journalist might have been so keen to trace certain people’s personal information on Twitter.
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nuggy said:
i do wonder what all this about rather stupid of her to mention it.
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bobchewie said:
Tom, neat, call someone a troll then get yer mates to dig up stuff on them, maybe who knows listen in on their voicemail..all it needs is a few ‘hacks’…
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ChristmasCracket said:
It happened to me 5 days ago, and it was done by an associate of the person you write about. It was also done to some on both ‘sides’ of the Old Holborn affair.
Twitter do not give a damn and will not even admit it’s happening. I am not a troll – I just fell out with a particularly nasty and foul mouthed couple of individuals. Resist the temptation to reply to them – it appears to be done when you tweet @ them. If you could get Twitter to take an interest it would be a real result.
I am not sure that the press are knowingly involved in this. It’s a Twitter bully trick, used in this case somewhat ironically by a freelance journalist who claims to be agsinst all forms of bullying.
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bobchewie said:
oh btw,,irony abounds re twitter i wonder if twitter was able to reveal who was in the paedo ring that was operating using twitter just last year..and then for twitter to suddenly do nothing about it, to the degree that the paedo network actually expanded and added more subscribers…i guess thats that double standards that twitter operates so well, in one case block and kick off disabled activists, but let more child sex abusers use their service…
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sarahtomkins said:
Is the definition of ‘trace’ not.. find or discover by investigation? Which in itself not illegal dependant on the method. Milly Dowler’s voicemail was hacked and some messages deleted. Initially I don’t see the comparison?
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nuggy said:
i wonder if she really did it or it was an attempt to scare people.
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Jo Walker said:
Speak to her Tom. You, of all people, must be aware of the potential of social media to distort…
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Kimmel said:
She is also an aggressive supporter of Wakefield and anti-vaccination. I’m glad I didn’t challenge her on Twitter. Don’t fancy her or her cyber bullies phoning me.
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nuggy said:
i also wonder if shes being set up herself.
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Jo Walker said:
Nuggy, I agree..
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ChristmasCracket said:
What Tom is talking about involves a security breach of a mobile phone while tweeting. I have been told ‘they’ have access to your mobile contract details – that is how they get your name and address. Do you really think that is acceptable? I don’t, nor do I trust any species of activist or journalist who does.
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bobchewie said:
in a blogiverse far far away, rumour has it that bloggers there actually get on with each other , silly i know, however at this rate we will all get bored and go home watch the telly and believe that buying some shit product is good for us and the daily hate talks plain commonsense…..
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Xan Tok said:
If you ask a friend of a contact of a friend on twitter Facebook and so on, then you will most likely get information, after all people have found long lost family by a social media search and asking around and people do leave a trail on here. As someone said on here it rides in the word ‘trace’…it is more probably someone knew someone and tracked their number on their fb account than one journalist had a whole host of Internet hackers working for them…Moral of the story…up your security and be careful who you give your information to…
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nuggy said:
that’s not the impression she gave in her tweets.
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Anon said:
If you’ve registered your phone number with Twitter, it’s a matter of guessing your password…
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bobchewie said:
@christmascracket actually i’m not really bothered what a blogger , journo or whatever eats for breakfast or where they live or their mates i cant be arsed…unless they are a convicted felon trying to push a half arsed idea or view that promotes some shit product making it more like spam..then bollocks to it..why would anyone wanna trace the details on someone who dont agree with you..seems rather anal and obsessive to me..
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Observer said:
What a silly woman she is getting involved in all of this. Some of the people she claims to be protecting have been trolling and bullying others on Twitter for months. That is the reason all of this has come about, because people got fed up of the bully tactics employed by her so called ‘friends’.
I have watched this in fighting for months, I have seen her mates ridicule and rip to shreds abuse survivors, I’ve watched them post pictures, names and addresses of the people on their ‘hit list’ for that week. And now the bullied are fighting back, the bullies don’t like it. Both groups are in the wrong but this journalist should have done her research before she picked a side, the people she’s defending are far from innocent in all of this…
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bobchewie said:
@anon there are pw crackers too i believe..
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Xan Tok said:
Never ever register a phone number…a year or so ago Facebook tried to force people to update with a telephone no, I just started a new account….
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bobchewie said:
@observer yeah,, thats the worst of it, when it comes to CSA ppl get nasty and that pisses up any investigation or discussion on that stuff…all attempts to derail or confuse only helps the abusers..
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Observer said:
You’re right Bobchewie, That is ALL some people do on Twitter! I stopped following these people that she is defending because I realised there was something very wrong with the way they were attacking anyone that was trying to make a difference. All very strange and suspicious.
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ChristmasCracket said:
Exactly. I know for certain they did not get my name legitimately.
I was even warned beforehand that they would trace me. I had no idea a mobile could be traced via Twitter. It’s shocking that users are not warned. I can assure you my name had never been associated with that account and I am no novice at security.
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John Doe said:
The hack on question own facebook personal entries on her homepage ( recently deleted) have for sometime made clear.blunt and repeated reference to her delight in recieving/ appealing to her “tetchy” friends for the personal contact details of her “trolls” and detractors.
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moragmcginty said:
I am totally sickened and hugely dismayed by Tom Pride’s nasty attempts to smear this person by using a crumb that was part of a much, much wider topic on very many posts and comments over days. This person took the trouble to inform Tom Pride PRIVATELY that the sources he had used or information he had received about a certain story were not reliable and…KERBAM! He starts smearing them on Twitter with vile innuendos, heavy editing and outright lies. The person he is smearing has worked tirelessly to uncover scandals involving the plight of the disabled and others who can be classed as the most vulnerable in our society, including children who they campaign for and speak to protect at all times. They are not paid for so much the of their work and only do pieces for the DM and Express which are sympathetic to these very same sections of society and they have not, in fact, done any pieces for the DM for quite a while since they have not been able to get the right sort of empathetic material cleared. Calling them a ‘DM hack’ is so leftfield it’s unreal. As for Twitter…if you think that those sticking up for this person in their outrage and disgust is aggressive you must lead quite a sheltered life. Seriously, blocking you was the sensible thing to do in order not to be contaminated by your nasty and insidious campaign. You are much worse than a wanker. Most people wank in private.
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bobchewie said:
@observer i cant figure it out..is it my blog is better than yours or something a bit more serious,, all i’ve done is jus look for factual bits thats not dug up and promoted by people..as i stated before i would sooner have something like a forum where info can be shared and swapped and discussed so as to make sense of ti all especially the CSA stuff…instead of ”thats my info” you cant have it, news/info becomes product and ownership…thats tragic….
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ChristmasCracket said:
I agree with all of that. The irony is that I am not part of either of the ‘gangs’! You couldnt make it up 🙂
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moragmcginty said:
‘aggressive’ supporter? Seriously?!! You need to do more research, I’m afraid…come down and meet my vaccination damaged child and her friends. That’ll be an eye opener… if you’re not wearing blinkers.
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ChristmasCracket said:
The ATOS story looks to me like a red herring.
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Pickjue said:
There is only one troll here.. John Doe, pathetic coward.
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bobchewie said:
twitter are full of crap, and operate double standards -fact….
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bobchewie said:
could be a bluefin red herring
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bobchewie said:
i’m not a troll, i am a computer apparently..blip blip….
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Another observer said:
Totally agree with “observer”. Those she claims to be protecting have, en masse, been bullying and abusing others in an appalling manner for months. She, and anyone else, should look into those people because the root cause of all of it is them. The bullied have retaliated and, whilst not right either, is understandable and nowhere near the deplorable behaviour demonstrated by the bullies this hack is protecting.
Thank you for blogging about this.
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Observer said:
Im not in these groups either, Have just watched from the side line for months and I understand why these people are now fighting back. There is only so many times you can kick a dog before it bites. To be honest, I cant help but think they deserve what they are getting, they have acted like complete dick heads for a long time.
Bobchewie, yes, there is soooo much jealousy! Its ridiculous! For people claiming to want the same thing they have a funny way of showing it. It puts people off getting involved. I know it has with me!
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bobchewie said:
@observer twatter was alright once, eg assisting campaigns like disability rights stuff, then twatter got weird and started booting off ppl off who were just helping others fight those campaigns, now twatter has become an insult machine..well is that better than what it started out? the stephen fry fan club?
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Pickjue said:
What the hell makes you think she is responsible for the actions of other people?? Idiots!
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Jo Walker said:
With you Morag.
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bobchewie said:
ah the old anonymity of the internet anyone can be anyone on there…nothing is real..the twilight zone
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nuggy said:
theirs a lesson to be learnt here if you get hold someone else s twitter details do not boast about on twitter.
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Jo Walker said:
Nope, I’m real.
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bobchewie said:
@ Jo Walker I’m not.
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nuggy said:
not thr irony here toms not going to to get his tech guys on to you because you called him a wanker.
you are perfectly safe to call him what you like.
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Moggy M said:
With you also, Morag. When I read about the DM hack I imagined some cut-throat nasty person. When I found out who it was – a friend and stalwart campaigner for the disabled and other injustices – I was shocked. I’m not on Twitter but I have always thought your blogs were good, Tom. But now you have undermined yourself and I think you should stick to what you do best – satire.
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Jo Walker said:
All a diversion from what is really happening. I wish you all well.
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bobchewie said:
what is ‘really happening’ oh do tell i’m agog..
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nuggy said:
its a shame i did actually think she was good journalist until all this shit started..
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Jo Walker said:
Ah well bob. Goodnight and sleep well. Sneering is easy.
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John Doe said:
It’s an ironic juxtaposition methinks. Sonia ‘s previous articles rightly confronted and castigated cyber bullies/trolls in which she should be tightly applauded.
However as many can testify she has repeatedly used similar tactics against detracting voices.
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bobchewie said:
i wouldnt know jo…i asked a question and you chose not to answer…so?
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Tom Pride said:
Moggy M – just because you like a particular Mail journalist doesn’t mean it’s right for that journalist to obtain people’s personal information to use against them. That’s wrong whoever does it.
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bobchewie said:
i have no idea ‘what is really going on’ anyone clue me in? i dont know if sneering is easy …is holding your breath under water easy or woodcarving..?
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Tom Pride said:
Jo – I tried to speak to her. She called me a wanker and blocked me. I then got 2 days of aggressive trolling and insults from a couple of her followers for my trouble.
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bobchewie said:
Tommo i must say i’m a bit surprised by her ‘followers’ to be honest since one of them has come under attack by others from what ive seen..all a bit weird mate..
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John Doe said:
I think in essence she still is. Admittedly due to her forceful nature she polarises opinion but hopefully as a consequence iof this episode she will reflect alongside Twitter which has questions to answer in relation to the security/access of personal data.
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bobchewie said:
@John Doe yeah you have that right twatter is a nightmare security wise…as i stated earlier twatter operate a double standards to be honest..
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bobchewie said:
unless whats her face is doing a piece on trolling cyber bullying and getting her techies to find out who they are is part of the story….but then if thats so she’s more or less giving the game away..even to the ppl shes claiming are causing the grief..idk..
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moragmcginty said:
Goodnight to you too, Jo…right attitude.
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bobchewie said:
is it? still dont know what is ”really happening” world ending? price of fish going up? idk…
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another observer said:
She is claiming her techies traced ISP’s and got addresses from that. A whois search may reveal that information however, if we are talking about blogs on wordpress, then a whois search only reveals information about wordpress itself and NOT an individual blogger. Correct?
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bobchewie said:
@another observer i think you can get real name not sure..its stuff about age and address and photos if any ..that needs other searches, thats if you are that obsessive….
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dizzydo said:
I’m appalled that you’re besmirching such a wonderful human being. I’m not on twitter but I know her enough to know that she is extraordinarily lovely. Whatever you think you’re doing, what you’re actually doing is trying to damage the reputation of someone who actually cares about people. She is actually spending her life fighting for those who are too ill to fight for themselves! I think you have a duty to publish the truth, not a fragment of it which you can twist. I’m so disappointed in this post, not only are you hurting a journalist with a heart of gold, you’re hurting those who she is helping!
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Yet Another Observer said:
I too am not on any ‘side’, but I have witnessed too, for many months from the sidelines, the manipulative, underhand actions of a group of cyber bullies who try discredit anyone they encounter, turn friends against eachother, spread doubt and negativity, and post all manner of personal details and disgusting insults to some other people I have watched and rightly established are decent, kind people. Unfortunately the journalist in question has taken it upon herself to believe their lies (rumour she may be family?) and support their bullying tactics. I have been disgusted as I have watched her block any single person who questions her behaviour too and manipulatively label THEM bullies instead! The tracing of phone numbers does not at all surprise me because she has now stooped to the reprehensible level of this group of (I fathom truly mentally ill) individuals. One things for sure, something needs to be done about this motley crewe.
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nuggy said:
shes now saying the police told her to do it.
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bobchewie said:
@yet another observer umm can you name these people who are causing grief? reason i ask is because theres another war of words going on elsewhere and im not sure if its same people or not…
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Jon Doe said:
The ISP /domain data that accompanies the majority of social media posts when imputed into a plethora of online services can be the gateway.
I entered my ISP number into this service which then preceded to expunge my mobile phone provider /related info.
http://whois.net/whois/
PS: this site and others designed to extract data were posted on the FB Page of the hack in quesrion
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THEORACLE said:
Still see no real evidence just speak.You can not get an address from an i.p number.You need a court order to obtain a home address from an isp and even then many isp`s will use the fact that most people have a dynamic i.p to not provide an address.Too many people leave a huge trail across the internet. 192.com 123people.com facebook search google search… you do not have to be that much of a techie. Much of this has been taken completely out of context. This is not just about a bit of criticism and more likely about real life threats.But sorry if this sounds off, but if someone was threatening me and a search using the legal methods above came up trumps with info then first i would ring that person and ask them to desist and second report it to the police. I too used to follow this blog but sorry to say you need to wake up and stop thinking everyone a hacker.The person you talk of is probably one of the kindest hard working women i know.A woman who strives hard for the those that society leaves behind and you should be so lucky just to walk in such a persons shadow.
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Yet Another Observer said:
@bobchewie no will not name. Those with nouse and a willingness to get to the real truth will be able to discern for themselves lets just say the main mudslingers are clear for all to see no matter how much they try cloud the waters with misinformation. I mean, the paranoia is there, man. How many people have they turned on in the last few months? the list is ever growing & people should judge a person by the comments they make & the behaviour they demonstrate, not on malicious rumour.
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drew said:
I think I will return when normal service is resumed…. Maybe in a few months time and see if the world has been made a better place or not…..
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bobchewie said:
@jon doe why is everyone having a go at everyone else then?
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nuggy said:
well i think tom has the screenshots of what was actully said i think other people do as well so we will see if anythings been taken out of context.
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nuggy said:
i watched the tweets and i never saw anybody threaten her.
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bobchewie said:
@yet another etc etc..ok i looked at timeline and saw the spat and was surprised to see names i knew, even ones ive posted to..i think and it bothers me..as from what ive seen that person has been got at too..so..?? i have no idea wtf is going on..
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bobchewie said:
if it makes anyone feel better ppl can have a go at me..i’m past caring anyway…
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Jon Doe said:
I don’t think anyone is questioning Sonia Poultons altruistic campaigns, that’s not the central issue.
It’s allegedly the procurement of personal data and the use of cyber bullying techniques to silence her detractors via social media..
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Yet Another Observer said:
@bobchewie well they are great at winning over people with their lies, especially people with good hearts, until the people see through it that is. Many have been suckered in only to later realise they have become the target now or have been supporting the bullying of other good people, and later feel ashamed.
This woman was never threatened, I was watching at the time. I don’t know why she would say that. Very very odd indeed.
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bobchewie said:
@jon doe erm is that how you read it? is she writing about cyber bullying and this tracking them is part of that item? ie ”tom you’ve been told, all will be explained when sonias finished the story”
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Outlaw said:
Please Tell the truth Tom, as I am sure you can do it if only once. I questioned you, you refused to answer and then accused me of ‘Aggressively Trolling’ you for two days. The Journalist you refer to did not, although you would love it to be so, ‘Hack’ anybodies mobile phone. The person you are referring to, reported somebody to Twitter and Twitter duly sent the person who was complained about the full personal details of the one who had complained…
Simple, easy and nothing like the dirty tactics that you are using in your attempt to smear people. You know full well why you have a personal grudge against this particular journalist Tom, why don’t you be a man and tell your loyal readers.
Or is the truth a step too far even for you?
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nuggy said:
i saw her insulted a couple of times i never saw anybody threaten her though.
i mean you expect the odd couple of insults on twitter.
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bobchewie said:
@outlaw i’m not posting on yer blog any more..ive had enough…fuck it..
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Yet Another Observer said:
@nuggy yes I saw a couple of people question her and one or two insult her very loosely but nobody threatened her.
Question is, why is she now saying the police told her to do it bejesus? Shes changed her story more times than Jackanory
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bobchewie said:
@nuggy a ‘couple’ ?? ffs twatter has become an insult machine….
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hindle-a said:
I am scrupiously impartial and have no axe to grind but I do think Moggy M is overreacting to the description of ” hack”-I read it as a well known slang term,nothing more.On the other hand from what I read later on Twitter and now on facebook the obscenities have been flowing in one direction only
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bobchewie said:
this is tooo weird, i have come across something from my own stuff that looks similar to recent..didnt even know it was there until now….freaky…….
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THEORACLE said:
This was not just twitter and that is why you did not see the personal threats or hear the voicemails she was left on her mobile or read her emails.People comment without all the facts and making libelous accusations of hacking being involved when they blatantly they were not (techie in this case most probably meant someone who knows how to properly use a search engine or other searches as mentioned above). Why would anyone have a go at you bobchewie?
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bobchewie said:
@the oracle it my turn…..whenever theres a spat going on i usally get it in the neck…for one reason or another..im not fussed if it helps for someone to get angry….what a fucking world eh?
world ends, ppl starve, disabled are made to look like spongers, now i see pensioners are now being targetted by the wealthy elite ponces and the institute of graspers want to change employmemt law so we all work for next to fuck all and to be able to sack ppl for anything..and here we are arguing the toss over..ummmmm
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nuggy said:
if that happened its funny she never mentioned it on twitter.
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nuggy said:
it may be true that she received such threats on the phone or but email but if it is why couldn’t she have just said that to tom instead of blocking him.
if it was true wouldent it be a lot easier to just say that in the first place.
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Outlaw said:
I am guessing that you are referring to CSA issues. You have watched, probably with great pleasure genuine victims of abuse being torn apart on Twitter and elsewhere. You do not know what is really going on so you attempt to guess armed only with one side of the story that suits your mood. It’s far too easy today to be labelled a ‘troll’ or an ‘abuser’ or even a ‘bully’ just because you happen to disagree with somebodies point of view. Classic ‘Divide & Conquer’ tactics. You people make me sick when you chime in armed with only half a story, and then lecture all those involved on how they are supposed to behave. Look at the bigger picture because I get the feeling that I am one of those people you are accusing. You do not know what I have been subjected to at the hands of some of these so-called abuse campaigners. The nightly phone calls, the personal threats against my family, my children’s names and school locations circulated…. The list goes on. Or, you are fully aware of this and are one of these faceless and gutless pond life who gain some sort of thrill by behaving in this way towards who, after all, may be very vulnerable people… Shame on you, you disgust me and anyone else who is trying to get the truth out into the open feels the same way.
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Outlaw said:
Transparency is showing through there, You just cannot help yourself can you? Your words, your phrases are lost identical to somebody else who is also waging a venomous campaign against genuine CSA survivors. Get some new material, or at least make an attempt to disguise your laborious writing style. Eh Kev?
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Outlaw said:
Why not Call yourself ‘Just Another Survivor’ like you do elsewhere, and while you are at it, why not share what your real reasons are for doing what you are doing? Protecting Abusers perhaps? Procuring? Grooming abuse victims? Or are you just a Ghoul who has become so obsessed by this because it has given your empty life some meaning and purpose finally… I know who you are and it is getting quite desperate the way you do seem able to not deviate from your ‘mission’. It’s just Hate, hate, hate all the way, nothing nice, nothing pleasant, just an obsessive campaign of revenge after it was discovered what you were really up to…
Busted, I think the term is….
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THEORACLE said:
Well that’s that person prerogative i believe it was stated that all will be revealed in good time but tom couldn`t wait. Bobchewie I`m with you on the state of the country as i`m one of those disabled spongers with a so called spare room, often no food or gas or electricity. I worked with my disability for 30 years (often for 24/36 hour nonstop shifts) until industrial accident caused by faulty machinery made me have 2 weeks off, for which i was sacked.Changes to laws meant i could not get legal aid.Thus health went further downhill.The company shut a year later ..Karma hey lol
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bobchewie said:
@THEORACLE yeah i had to say that because in all this venom i figured if we could agree on something we hate..it might get us to stop this crap hey who knows…
atm this my blog is better than your blog is getting fucking tedious bollocks and i might just quit the whole shebang already ive quit one because of spot the ego competition..maybe i will do my own one day and everyone can come and slag me off…at least they would agree im shit or something lol!!
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Big Bill said:
It’s misleading to describe her as someone who regularly writes for the Daily Mail and the Express as that suggests she writes, as all the other DM and Express journos appear to, a load of old tosh running down disabled/unemployed people that turns out to be mostly rehashed biased and completely untrue DWP press releases. The reality is she’s the only one with work appearing in the DM and the Express who routinely champions the disabled/unemployed/sick against the Coalition. Referring to her disparagingly as you do is, as I’m sure you’re well aware, inflammatory and misleading. What, you can’t make an argument against her so you have to infer things which aren’t true? You appear to be taking a leaf from IDS in this regard. You do well when you so accurately take the piss out of the authorities but every now and then you go off on one and make a fool of yourself. Don’t!
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Xan Tok said:
I have to say this whole blog seems a poorly veiled bout of ‘professional envy’ and I wonder if there is some soreness with those who see themselves as the next big thing in left wing homespun blogging, at the thought of ‘mainstream’ journalists taking on left wing and human rights issues that have been the guarded domain in this case, of crack pots conspiracy theorists and the tin foil hat ascot parade. I find the whole thing quite funny as much as I find the ‘characters’ (to be charitable) who have been attacking the person referred to in this post. If that person has tracked down those harassing them, then good. Why should a dedicated journalist supporting a worthy cause be derailed and hindered by the unusual brigade and if they are bullying and abusing her and she has caught them down, they cannot now squeal like cowards because the web is not as anonymous as they think. Some people have some serious growing up to do…
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Leigh LaFon (@DenverElle) said:
I have never met anyone involved in this but I can see that too many people have more time for expressing opinions than for doing simple research. Fine. If you want to know what you are commenting on, just read the evidence. Read the timelines of the twitter accounts involved, all the way back to when Steve Messham was being bullied, and there is a clear chain of evidence of extreme bullying of some of the most vulnerable csa survivors imaginable. Many of those who were bullied did NOTHING to cause that, and little or nothing to defend themselves. The bullies would say the most cruel things imaginable then have their sock puppets admonish the victim for being too sensitive. It was beyond appalling. It appears that the bullies and sock puppets groomed Mr Messham into being a trusted friend, before they started working in tandem to drive Mr Messham, to attempt suicide. Many cruel allegations against him and some other csa survivors made little sense, were clearly untrue or should have been entirely irrelevant to anyone else. These vulnerable people were relentlessly hounded until they left twitter, in most cases. Mr Messham was one of two victims hospitalized with depression. Yes. That’s right. Many on twitter seemed afraid to step in and stand up for those victims out of understandable fear of this vicious bully mob.
At the end of March, #Paedobritain Day brought out a stunningly resentful response from the bullies, as if the solidarity expressed that day was a fiery trigger for their increasing rage. First the Madlands Blog, then Go_Jam’s Needle Blog, were attacked along with all sorts of trolling of their supporters. The Madlands blog tragically closed, even though it was the one which inspired and coordinated the #Paedobritain effort. Will Black, the author and journalist who often writes on Huffington Post, wrote a positive blog article there about the success of the #Paedobritain effort, and the same bullies went ballistic with criticisms and trolling of him. You can read his account of this. Of course, at the moment Tom Pride even asked a question of the journalist who claimed her “techies” got her those phone numbers, Tom Pride became a target. The bullies at just that precise moment decided to deride his writing. Targets for these bullies are endless.
I have been on twitter for only about 7 months, and have had countless dm’s from people warning me about these specific bullies, kindly instructing me as to what one can and can’t safely say on twitter. I was told, and I agree, that these particular bullies are savage, brutish, relentless and have caused increasing levels of harm to csa survivors over the last few months, damaging the movement and deliberately creating mistrust and disunity. There is no justification for this. Their timelines even show photos of weapons and vile threats.
Had the journalist at issue in this week’s phone-hack drama simply read the relevant timelines herself, perhaps none of this nasty behaviour would have been connected to her. She has advocated for abuse survivors and other vulnerable groups. She was duped by these bullies. Her reputation could not have survived being linked to their own tweeted evidence against themselves. She behaved very badly in response to being caught up in confusing rapid-fire conversation with a number of the bully’s victims who’d had enough, and who themselves lashed back at the bullies she chose to defend before she investigated the written evidence. She was angry, defensive, and she failed to see it clearly, but she will not for long wish to defend the cruel words which victims and others kept on preserving as evidence in screenshots.
Those who lashed back at the bullies were among the most compassionate survivors/advocates for victims on twitter. I openly objected to their use of angry words and name-calling the bullies back, because bullies bait victims to react in anger, then confuse and manipulate the unknowing or lazy but opinionated bystander into seeing things the way the bully skillfully presents them. Read the timelines folks, if you want to argue about that. Look for empathy and lack thereof. Look over solid evidence presented by all sources and you will actually know what happened. Many Time Lines were “scrubbed,” but not until evidence was captured for posterity.
Then you will have to ponder the looming question of why anyone would ever do what those bullies did. The answer must be very sinister.
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bobchewie said:
@TOM PRIDE hope you dont mind me posting this here..its an extract from P.A.N (paedo alert news) a publication produced by spartacus international ie the organisation that is in connection with Elm Guest House, in this extract you can see they have nothing but praise for P.I.E paedophile information exchange the organisation that Peter Righton was member no.51 ie the guy that Tom Watson referred to in relation to paedos in high places) Peter Righton->PIE->Spartacus->
Elm Guest House->P Bottomley (sister V Bottomley patron of Righton organisation)
I thought the references to ‘criminal activity’ in this text is quite ironic…
“In the last issue of PAN we published extracts from a long, thoughtful letter from Sri Lanka (PAN 9, page 27). Among other things, the anonymous author was sharply critical of the English Paedophile Information Exchange, and shortly after PAN 9 was published we received an equally thoughtful reply from one of the PIE board members objecting to this piece and confusing the position of its author with our position at PAN. It shouldn’t be necessary to say that we have a much higher regard for PIE than does the writer of this article, that we do not agree that paedophiles should identify with or adopt the psychology of criminals — although it maybe wise to study some of the precautions they take. (The last issue of PIE’s Magpie, No. 16, incidentally, although a bit thinner than its predecessors, is perhaps its very best yet and contains, as well as an up-dating of the O’Carroll trial and imprisonment, one of the most perceptive articles on the situation in Sri Lanka ever printed in the English language. It is impossible to praise too highly this remarkable and courageous publication — and another more modest news letter recently inaugurated called Contact.”
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Tom Pride said:
Big Bill – “you can’t make an argument against her so you have to infer things which aren’t true?”
No Big Bill _ I have inferred nothing. I have in fact stated – with screen shots from the person herself – that she has traced private phone numbers of Twitter users.
That is entirely true. And despicable whichever journalist has done it.
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Leigh LaFon (@DenverElle) said:
Yes.
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Ratbag said:
So I assume someone knows the people and provided their phone numbers. That wouldn’t be hacking.
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bobchewie said:
@leigh lafon i remember when SM was being attacked on twitter he was pretty upset..thats when he went for a long walk that lasted about ten hours..yeah horrible that was…
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bobchewie said:
@TOM re the PAN stuff..any good to you? i posted same on the slog but a bit miffed as John went all satirical about the paedos, bit like yr own stuff.. and the serious bits i posted got ignored..hurrumph..oh well i try…
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Leigh LaFon (@DenverElle) said:
Looks like you did your research. What incredibly barbaric mistreatment of that poor man. I feel sorry for the woman swept up in her own emotions on twitter. I wouldn’t want to be the journalist closely identified with that cruelty.
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bobchewie said:
@leigh lafon yeah we were all pretty concerned about steve that night, and when he suddenly took off we were freaking out a bit…anyone know where he went?…
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nearlydead said:
Reblogged this on nearlydead.
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Leigh LaFon (@DenverElle) said:
From what I understand, he has been hospitalized since the bullying for depression. He was featured on a Channel 4 interview recently in front of the facility, and he looked very sad. If you are on twitter I can send link.
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bobchewie said:
@leigh lafon i have a rough idea who was winding him up at the time i think..erm sending me twatter link no point as twatter kicked me orf for having the nerve to assist disabled activists instead of twatting about the royals or some such cobblers..
btw what you think of this PAN elm guest house stuff i posted it all seems kinda weird to me, but then i’m a computer and not real…(in joke)
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ChristmasCracker said:
That isn’t true Outlaw and you know it as well as I do. YOU are in this up to your neck, as I personally am only too well aware.
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ChristmasCracker said:
It is nothing to do with IPs, that is another red herring. Tracing an IP does not give you a users name. While some of these people she had been in contact with previously, giving information she could use to get further details, I know for a fact that my name and presumably many other details were obtained from my mobile phone – which I used at the time to post to twitter. And it was posted up by one of the loudest shouting ‘foul’ here now! Ironic huh?
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ChristmasCracker said:
No, no no.. She is lying about IPs and ISPs, it is MOBILE PHONES that this has been done through. Re-read Tom’s article, he was spot on.
I never threatened anyone, it is not in my nature. Some idiot took it upon himself to connect me, totally erroneously, to the subject of his bile, and he or one of his strange mates then managed to get my details through my phone. Everything else is bullshit.
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ChristmasCracker said:
It’s you that’s busted Outlaw.
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ChristmasCracker said:
NO!! Please, you need to read Tom’s article. The mobile phone numbers are being intercepted through Twitter. I know this for a fact, I have personal experience. And I am not even on either ‘side’ of the CSA fallout. But I know which ‘side’ was responsible – the ‘side’ this journalist has inexplicably allied herself with . I would just warn everyone about the dangers of Tweeting with a mobile. Don’t do it.
I cannot understand why she has decided to support the obvious bullies. She could have just decided not to get involved in the arguments, which was her original position. But having decided she needed to jump for one group or another, a bit of basic TL reading would have saved her from a particularly stupid mistake.
But then to openly advertise she had ‘teccies’ ‘putting out traces’ was beyond daft. It does not matter what she claimed they had done. If it was very serious, involve the police and walk away. Do not become a vigilante associating with dubious people to try and get results which put you on the wrong side of the law.
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Tom Pride said:
Good points well said ChristmasCracker!
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Yet Another Observer said:
@Ratbag. That is not what the hack in q. said. But if someone DID provide the numbers to her it could only have been the motley crewe, who I have seen display various peoples id’s they decide to attack. But I expect they can’t admit that because they know it doesn’t fit with their ‘we are the bullied and the victims’ faux plea tactic, when you are visibly bullying people in public.
@LeighLafon as (yet) another observer I totally endorse all your views expressed therein. V. perceptive. Kudos to all the people who have supported those being bullied and driven off Twitter, blogs etc.
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MFOGlasgow said:
MFOGlasgow is who I am.
Thomas, you failed to answer me on Twitter at the very start of all this because I had an answer, but you would rather go for the hack angle with Sonia.
Sue, adey, janette all observers and christmas crackers now on here So see through. No balls to put up their real names. Leigh La Fon, specialist in bullying wages in with her long opinion. Has sided with them for a while. You are going to look so green.
Facts all very one sided,from Tom especially.
It was made clear who had given the numbers to Sonia. She had no techies on anyones phone, but yes, she was trying to trace legally an IP address of a site which bullied her and others. KevinGreen1950. LAST WEEK! Not 15 hours ago Tom as you manipulated your little post of her tweets.
Now sit back all the little people that have attached themselves to this, accused others of bullying and underhand tactics. Watch the show come to life and sit on your hands from now on, close your mouth for a bit. It is tiresome.
Jimmy Saville
Everyone ‘s favourite do gooder,hiding in plain sight
Many in shock and felt duped.
Memories of this person ruined.
Victims coming forward.
Many whistleblowers who were never heard now being believed.
Oh the lovely JS
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Outlaw said:
You at it again? Sue/Kev/Janette your words again betray your identity…. Creeping around your fan club and trashing anyone else… Kendra, Gnarla, Messiah who on earth are you? apart from a dangerously deranged individual…..
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Bren said:
Reblogged this on On My Front Porch and commented:
And this is one of the reasons why we need press reform.. If this is true and this person isn’t just bluffing.. then something really needs to be done about this kind of behaviour.
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Outlaw said:
The number in question was a landline!!! Bang goes your theory 🙂
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Bishop Brightly said:
She is being hoodwinked by a small group of trolls who are using their “credentials” to get her to push their agenda. Just look at that Jimmy Jones guys timeline, all day, every day he is on the attack. If he is not being paid then he must be free loading off the state because he couldn’t tweet such volumes from work.
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Bishop Brightly said:
The evidence is there in writing. She claimed she had contacts who sometimes got her personal information.
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Yet Another Observer said:
@MFOGlasgow I have not seen Tom Pride manipulate anything, unlike your motley crewe, who have got it down to a fine art. Why do you insist on creating hysteria and divisions? Very odd. Not a positive aim by anyone’s standards.
She said last night the police told her to do it too, yet another backtrack! We can see where the truth is in all this deceit. Who are you telling to’ close their mouths’? Who are the ‘little people’. That’s a bit demeaning isn’t it. Are we getting to near to the truth?
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Outlaw said:
Ha Ha.. That ‘bullying’ word Elle? You know so much about Steve Messham why don’t You enlighten us as to your comprehensive knowledge? You do not know the story yet choose to wade in with your opinions… The truth of the story will come out and all your constant bleating about bullying, trolling and perceived aggressive tactics will be seen as it really is. Misguided, ill-informed and completely without foundation.. I can bide my time and see this through to it’s conclusion, when the real story emerges…
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Yet Another Observer said:
Who the heck ARE these people? All I’ve seen is you attack them, and they have rarely had a chance to fight back. I think everyone here can see who the real deranged people are. Doesn’t make the behaviour any more acceptable though. Shame on you.
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Tom Pride said:
Outlaw – you really can’t see that the fact she was able to get hold of someone’s private landline number is even more worrying to most people?
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Pez said:
Horse shit, the only people with access to that kind of information are twitter staff, do you sincerely think any of them would be stupid enough to leak phone numbers, especially to someone apparently dumb enough to boast the fact? What would a twitter insider possibly stand to gain from this?
If there is a shred of truth to this then everyone involved is going to lose their jobs to the tune of the data protection act. If I were you I’d report her to Twitter for abuse of their systems. Chances are though that they’d already have banned her had she actually succeeded.
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justin thyme said:
I don’t use twitter because of the social embarrassment factor however I did know a man, who knew a man, who knows a man who knew that Alex Ferguson was going to retire and look after his other donkeys
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bobchewie said:
i am really a computer, tom pride is a fish called eric, sonia is really a beardy called dave, mcalpine is really a nice bloke, the daily mail talks a lot of sense, twitter is really a front for the chinese mafia, outlaw is really a girl called sandra higginbotham,dave cameron is boris johnson pet iguana, mickey mouse is really satan, and the world has gorn nuts…
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ChristmasCracker said:
You are wrong. Take a look at the TL of odgy65. ”Your Android is a cheap one mate. It won’t save you from the law though pal. Got your IMEI no already.Yes I nailed Old Holdborn”
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another observer said:
Outlaw, sorry to burst your bubble, but I am none of those you claim I am. I am one of many observers who has followed all of this from the start and an observer whose disgust has increased by the day.
If I was not anonymous without doubt I would become your next target. Having witnessed time and again what happens to those you and your mates decide to attack I have no taste to expose myself to that.
Lets look at just a few instances shall we. Personal details of several people posted on twitter by you lot numerous times, one person repeatedly accused of having scabies, another person who cares for his frail, elderly father abused in the most shameful and despicable way, Messham told to hang himself, numerous lowest of the low attacks on the physical appearance of several on twitter, veiled threats and blatantly open threats to harm people, and all this has gone on for MONTHS.
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Yet Another Observer said:
How long til another of your ‘ids’ pop up to ‘corroborate’ your story hey Outlaw? So obvious now, the people who stand up to you are always labelled as the same person or group! Not Kev I’m afraid. ‘Venomous campaign’ against YOU? You are not the victim you pretend to be, whether its paranoid delusion or something more sinister we wait to find out. The smell is getting stronger though.
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Yet Another Observer said:
Chip chip chip, doubt doubt doubt go your chisels at the truth, trying to dissemble it. Spread doubt, discredit people, look like the only real ‘truther’. Too bad Outlaw, YOU are busted. Your intentions are clear for all to see now, tide has turned. How many hours a day do you spend being nasty about other people? From dawn til dusk you insult and abuse and wilfully discredit people, some of the things I’ve read you have written have repulsed me on a humanity level. Always after the nicest people, always after the most vulnerable. The people who speak out against you here are receiving the same treatment. Surprise. Old dog, old tricks.
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@another observer : I would never post my real ID either for fear of being attacked by these animals. They have no shame and absolutely zero compassion. Everything they accuse people of they do themselves, constantly deflecting blame onto the people they are bullying. They jump on any little thing and try to turn it into something huge to get others on board.
They need to get a life and stop picking on people that are actually trying to make a difference.
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Yet Another Observer said:
Agree wholeheartedly with previous posts by I said and Another Observer. And as soon as any consensus of opinion is gained by the victims of their abuse they enter to spread doubt and try divide friendships. You’d really think they’d have something better to do with their time.
Anyone else noticed how obsessed they are with referencing privates and masturbation too? Makes me feel very uncomfortable when they constantly accuse other people of it. Latest reference is to ‘willy waving’. Their timeline makes for some very uncomfortable reading.
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bobchewie said:
Blimey and i thought the stephen fry fan club was bad enough, glad i’m not on twatter any more….
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Yet Another Observer said:
It’s true, who, what, where, when does it, is constantly discussed.
I’m sure it’s driven many a person off Twitter. Puke.
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bobchewie said:
@yet another observer naaah twatter kicked me orf cos i was assisting disabled rights groups..instead of twatting about some celeb shit…bollocks to them..
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John Doe said:
The online ME/CFS militia brigade Sonia uses like attack dogs doesn’t do her any favours
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kaztgray said:
I know of at least 2 that have had phone calls from her.
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Sharon said:
You say mobile phones was used. Bullshit. What really happened was someone phoned her on the phone number you said she got illegally, that was how she got the phone number. Nothing she has done has been illegal. I’ve been watching on the sidelines not saying anything to anyone but I see these lied posted here about a good, kind, honest woman and it makes my blood boil.
Tom Pride, you should be ashamed of yourself. You’ve done nothing but bait and lie on Twitter, that much is obvious to anyone who has eyes. You’re just a wanna be journalist, jealous of someone else who has made it big and is now causing trouble for kicks.
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Outlaw said:
Would I be right in thinking that you and Tom go way back Mr Chewter? After all it is becoming increasingly clear that you have been disrupting and using distraction on blogs for a while now…..
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Outlaw said:
Yes the famous ‘long walk’ I was concerned enough to go over to check he was OK and he was sat outside his house in his car on the phone…… You all seem to forget that some us know the man and live quite close to him….
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Outlaw said:
Well Tom, you have played a blinder I must admit.. Your little fable has generated a lot of interest, enough maybe to satisfy even you… I shall take my leave of this as further contribution to this is taking time that is better spent in the real world.
I do hope you make the mistake of believing that I am as stupid as you try to make me look… 🙂
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Sharon said:
That landline number phoned her first. There goes your silly theory of hacking.
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Yet Another Observer said:
He hasn’t ‘played a blinder’ at all. He hasn’t ‘played’ anything. He’s highlighted this hack’s morally and legally reprehensible tactics in obtaining private phone numbers and ISP’s through Twitter! Is that what you misconstrue honesty as – ‘playing a blinder’?
Please Outlaw, if you are genuinely mentally ill accept the help that has been offered to you and don’t push it away. The world is not against you, there is no ‘campaign’ to hurt you. The people you have been abusing for months are just finally making a stand and saying they wont tolerate it anymore. It’s not acceptable for you and your crewe to skit terminally ill people, those afflicted by disease, those who care for elderly relatives, physical appearances and family situations. It’s just not.
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nuggy said:
well it would depend how they got them.
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Paul said:
Having weighed up both sides of the argument, I have to conclude that Peter Griffin has won.
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Yet Another Observer said:
Well you could say that Paul, but actually, I care deeply if a hack is obtaining private phone numbers through deceptive means, greatly in fact. It sets a dangerous precedent. It is very worrying and repugnant especially given recent events.
Whatsmore, the people I have seen abused and discredited mercilessly for months must care greatly too.
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nuggy said:
oh well i shall watch with intrest have you an idea when thse facts are going to come out.
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misty53 said:
Reblogged this on NO MORE SHAME and commented:
I am so happy to see people standing up to these abusers, who only attack anyone sticking up for CSA victims/survivors Now the next time you see anyone being attacked by these monsters, go and help them.
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bobchewie said:
@outlaw mate listen, you are predictable and sorry to say this but deluded no really you are..you see things that are not there…sorry but you do….
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Paul said:
No amount of posturing or conjecture will end this disagreement, unfortunately.
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Yet Another Observer said:
@Paul. Posturing? Don’t know what you mean by that tbh, and there is no conjecture, she admitted it/ bragged about it, check out her tweets.
@Misty your name rings a bell as being one of those abused by them at some point. You and everyone else targeted has my full support. All power to the lot of you, don’t stand for it anymore.
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bobchewie said:
@nuggy i dont know what jimmy’s game is not sure if i care but hes just made himself look very very silly…
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overburdenddonkey said:
misty53…a bit late on here…but just who are you claiming is standing up 4 CSA victims?
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Paul said:
@Yet Another Observer, I don’t mean just you. Don’t worry.
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Yet Another Observer said:
@Paul. I’m not worried dear. It’s fine. Are you included in that ‘not just you’ comment?
Have a nice day. 🙂
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John Doe said:
Sometimes it’s best to say nothing and appear a fool..rather than opening your mouth and removing all doubt !
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bobchewie said:
@john doe jimmy outlaw i am sorry to say has made himself look very foolish..he either sees things that arent there or knows it and tries to disrupt it..
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nuggy said:
well if it is untrue she can always take legal action.
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Paul said:
You reply to me an awful lot for one who isn’t worried, dear.
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nigel said:
My word! After all this lot I am really glad I have no twitter account, no blog, only accept people I actually know on to facebook. Being a luddite definitely has advantages.
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Yet Another Observer said:
And in walk the other ids….yawn…..is that why you went quiet during the last couple hours, trying to remember the password for your other multiple accounts on Twitter and elsewhere? Making more to outwardly support your opinions? Watch and learn people, this is how they run…yes it really is that pathetic.
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Paul said:
You’re paranoid. I haven’t even told you which side I think is right! For all you know, I could agree with you.
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Kai said:
sad really, Sonia was certainly wrong if she used hacktivists or the like to intercept twitter messages and phone numbers, also wrong the people bullying each other over this. Whatever happened to uniting behind a cause?
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Observer said:
I notice Outlaw is now trying to make out that the people HE has bullied for months are the ones that are trying to divide people and cause distrust. Makes me laugh, anyone with half a brain can see through his bull shit.
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another observer said:
Yes he’s doing what he always does. I see his mate who is obsessed with masturbating is still obsessed with masturbating too. If I wasnt so thoroughly disgusted by them I might laugh too.
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bobchewie said:
@observer apparently according to some or him i am a govt computer program intent on derailing discussion on blogs…blip blip blip.
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nuggy said:
are you that must be nice whats it like being a government computer.
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Observer said:
I agree, their behavior is disgusting but thankfully people have started to see through them, I know most of my Twitter friends have. Grown men acting the way they do is just pathetic.
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Observer said:
Lol, yes, I saw that, Bobchewie! or should we call you Bobbot? 😉
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ChristmasCracket said:
I am talking about my own experience here. What happened to Adeybob was diferent – he says a DM was hacked on twitter as the landline was not even registered to his name. Dont piss down my back and tell me its raining Outlaw – you are involved in this up to your eyeballs.
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ChristmasCracket said:
And now AngleseyDrift has taken to posting stuff of yours up Bob. He must know you are a real person as he has helpfully included your name.
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another observer said:
robobot 😀
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Observer said:
Outlaw is now using this as his excuse for not getting involved in #paedobritain http://news.sky.com/story/1088447/savile-case-lead-to-persecution-lawyer-says
How low can he stoop to make people think he is some sort of saint. He didnt get involved because he is a jealous, narcissistic thug.
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bobchewie said:
@Another observer robot in de skies
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bobchewie said:
@nuggy its rubbish no time off and no holidays..blip blip whirrr
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bobchewie said:
@christmascracket why does laverty do this i wonder ? is this how the gang operates? havent they got anything better to do? actually they will find themselves in the shitter before long ..because A: the validity of the posts (my stuff could be fictional-also i have certain protections)…silly children….
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bobchewie said:
@observer call me what you want but dont call me me in the bath…btw its a bit tragic when ppl feel the need to go trawling on the net trying to find dirt on you..its a bit obsessive..ah well..most of the stuff i wrote about meself i probbly made up / or did i?
yes/no some of it/most /maybe / not all..stay tuned…
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bobchewie said:
@another observer i wonder which bobchewie stuff they are writing about..and which bobchewie? we often use same account from time to time..just saves all the effort….
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another observer said:
MFOGLASGOW since you complain about people not using their real names why dont you set an example then and use your own real name. Until then I’d say that makes you a hypocrite
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Mrs M (@MrsMarguerita) said:
There are two “rival groups” on twitter, having a go at each other and trying to get others involved by a mixture of insults and flattery. It could be orchestrated, it could be a battle of egos, or a mixture of both.
There are “journalists” involved on both sides, “survivors” of CSA and/or the care system on “both sides”. It serves to do one thing, which is to derail the fight against CSA and ultimately discredit survivors who want to fight the system and stand up for each other.
I find the tactics of both “camps” distasteful, manipulative and tedious. They say they’re fighting for truth, for CSA victims. Bullshit.
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bobchewie said:
life can be funny sometimes…..
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nuggy said:
that’s the whole purpose i think
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Yet Another Observer said:
no way is there two attacking groups. there’s just them on the attack, the bullies. The abused are finally retaliating and fending them off, is all. Thats ALL the rest of US.
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Yet Another Observer said:
Be laughable if it wasn’t so disgusting wouldn’t it. The spin is in the machine again. I have total faith now even more people will be able to see them for what they are. Thank you for this neutral platform Mr Pride, it’s joining many similar experiences together.
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bobchewie said:
@yet another observer that tree photo looks scary is it symbolic? does it have a hidden meaning . is it the hiding place of covert secret material ie documents containing allthe information about those who are out to reveal the IDs of VIP sex predators? hmm could be..stay tuned..
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Yet Another Observer said:
eh?
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bobchewie said:
certain locations serve well for drop points when need to do our ‘mail’..esher forest is good for that picking the right tree matters though….that and keeping records, sadly some ‘subs’ sneak there way in and put our intel on the net..common problem..fortunately they all went on a nice ‘holiday’.never got postcards back funny that haha…
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another observer said:
The trees look fine to me. Not sure about the odd plank though.
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bobchewie said:
Planks are normally marked and coded for identification purposes..
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another observer said:
Well one never does get just one chewie in a pack.
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bobchewie said:
Yes its all about team work…
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Yet Another Observer said:
Ah I see, veiled threats and intimidation from the usual culprits with new ids.. Either that or a screw or too loose! Doesn’t work on me you silly creatures!
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Yet Another Observer said:
By the way, Grouchy, does Bobchewie mind you using his name like that?
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Keith said:
With the best will in the world – this ‘journalist’ writes for the Daily Mail, and, in her ego, think’s she’s a starlet.
She cannot be trusted.
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Sharon said:
This journalist, Keith, is an independent journalist that just happens to be published now and then in the daily mail. How did this fact go over your head? She’s a good and caring person who writes on behalf of all the vulnerable people out there and is now being persecuted by a few internet bullies who have their own agenda for doing so. This is the truth of it.
I’m disappointed in Tom Pride. He has some really good articles on his blog but I fear he has just joined up or been dragged in to the petty world of Twitter and is now writing for a group of people who want to bully others and get a kick out of doing so.
This ‘journalist’ has millions of followers and is a well trusted and well liked journalist no matter what you try to do and say to discredit her. That won’t change as she has to many followers and to much to show for all her hard work. What have you lot got? Nothing.
I noticed that a particular someone is using up a lot of emails to post the same sentence over and over on twitter. That person has a hidden agenda and will be outed for their part in this little fiasco, especially as the police is now involved.
Ask yourselves this. Why has Tom Pride not been brave enough to post the journalist’s name on his blog? Well I’ll tell you why. He knows he is in the wrong. He knows he baited and twisted everything around just to promote and advertise his own little blog to try and get a little extra publicity and it’s all blown up in his face, whilst his little Janet friend is screaming hack in every direction. Tom Pride knows that if he names the journalist, he will be looking at slander and defamation charges.This is probably why he’s gone quiet after making you all fall into his little ‘woe is me’ trap.
[If you read my original blog post I explain that I didn’t want it to become a battle of personalities. However, I assure you legally speaking – because I put a link to a place where the identity of the journalist is made clear – it would be no defence against libel anyway. The real question though is what libel? Asking a journalist how she traced personal numbers which she herself admitted she ‘traced’ is not libel. Perhaps she thinks calling her a ‘hack’ is libellous? Or accusing her of having written for the Mail and the Express is libellous? The truth is she is trying to scare me and she knows she doesn’t have a legal leg to stand on.] – TOM
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Paul (@LazySavant) said:
I’m not disagreeing with your post, but will note that he has no reason to worry about defamation as I doubt she’ll bother with that sort of thing. However, if it did come to that (which it won’t) then simply leaving her name out wouldn’t be a suitable defence for him at this stage.
You may be right – perhaps he has done so because he thinks it is a suitable defence – but it’s very clear who is being discussed and simply stating “I never used that person’s name” wouldn’t hold up.
To be clear; I agree with the rest of your post.
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Yet Another Observer said:
@’Sharon’ …Mmm where have I heard that phrase before,..”Ask yourselves this.”?
It’s very ‘Real’ sounding to me. Incites doubt in a persons mind to make them re assess already established facts. Plus an obsession with ‘Janet’ and a paranoia for ‘hidden agendas’. For goodness sake, this is all so obvious now. I strongly suspect there are not so many dissenting voices to this veracious article as may first appear. Are you going back to Twitter now Jimmy to spread your hate?
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Paul (@LazySavant) said:
Yet Another Observer, it’s bizarre that you assume so many people to be the same person. Ironic and funny, too, that you named yourself in line with 2 other people on this page.
It is possible for multiple people to hold similar opinions on both sides of an argument, you know.
“I strongly suspect”… hmm, where have I heard that phrase before? Let me think – ah yes! From hundreds of other people!
Nutjob.
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Moggy M said:
@ Yet Another Observer – Crewe is a town in Cheshire. I’ve let three misspellings pass but the 4th misspelling finally got to me.
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Yet Another Observer said:
@Paul. Oh dear, the personal insults start flying now, in avoidance of the truth, as well as the veiled threats. It is a well known fact, as well ‘you’ know they use multiple ids. Very well known. I see he is now busy playing the victim in all this again, quelle surprise, who would have thought it? ‘Poor me’ ‘im the only truthful one’, and quoting out of context tweets by long term rival Madlands (who he drove off his blog) to seemingly support him. Yawn.
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Paul (@LazySavant) said:
I don’t have a dog in this race, my friend. I don’t care. Nor do I have any idea who ‘he’ is. I just think you might be losing the plot.
You’re not one of those mentals from ANN who think 9/11 was an inside job and the CIA are watching you all, are you?
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Yet Another Observer said:
@Paul
More personal insults. No, I am perfectly sane thank you. Are you? Can’t be too observant, bless.
Anyway, you surely wouldn’t be trying to distract from the real issue of this hack’s tracing phone numbers and cold calling members of the public would you? Would you?
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Paul (@LazySavant) said:
Like I said, paranoid. I don’t care. I just find your daft behaviour amusing. I have no idea who you are, no idea who you’re apparently affiliated with, or who your beef is with. I just think you’re clearly an idiot.
Yes, it’s an insult. “Bless” you for being so observant. By the way, the old “bless” and calling people “dear” crap is such a transparent attempt at patronisation and self-congratulation that it almost brings a tear to my eye to see somebody lower himself to such a ludicrous, infantile tactic.
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Paul (@LazySavant) said:
Bless.
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Yet Another Observer said:
oh dear, getting a bit hot under the collar now, Ive obviously touched a nerve. And Im paranoid! Didnt you write that paranoid epic on ‘bobchewie’, government computer lol? I think you do have a ‘dog in the race’ now don’t you, be honest now, as proven with your friendly supportive tweets to Jimmy and Sonia recently on Twitter. Well, at least you’ve done one gracious thing, admitted you’re ‘a professional gobshite’ on your own twitter page; and also a member had the sense to agree. Self revelation is half the way.:-D
p.s. in case it gets lost again, the hack traced members of the public’s phone numbers.
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Paul (@LazySavant) said:
I did, indeed, write that piece.
It’s a piece designed to take the piss out of paranoia – because it’s so ludicrous. It’s designed to take the piss out of people like you, and it succeeded.
I AM a professional gobshite. We can’t all have it come to us naturally.
And just because I agree with Sonia & Outlaw on one thing does not mean I care about your silly feud, or that I’m one of them. I’m not. Again, I just find you funny. The fact you felt you needed to read my twitter timeline has only made you look more paranoid and ridiculous.
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Yet Another Observer said:
I’ve certainly enjoyed just now having a quick look at your timeline. It’s interesting how many folks use exactly the same diction, ‘humour’ and idiosyncrasies isnt it! I notice you despise Tom Pride’s blog too, what a coincidence you ended up here spreading muck?!
Paul @LazySavant 27 Apr
@johnnyvoid Unfollowing Tom Pride after reading what you and others have said. Thank you. What an evil little sod!
No grudge though, no dog in the race hey Grouchy? I’m starting to find you funny!
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Paul (@LazySavant) said:
You’re right. You got me. I’m actually Outlaw in disguise. And Grouchy too, whoever that is. I tried to hide it, but I’ve failed. Damn!
You’re not paranoid at all.
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Yet Another Observer said:
Not much of a comeback that! Was expecting much better effort! It made you chuckle I knew who you were didn’t it, but also caught you off guard! Meanwhile, run off to Twitter now and continue painting all of your detractors as paranoid, mental and unstable, but be warned, people have cottoned on Grouchy! Far too many to keep it up lol!
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Paul (@LazySavant) said:
Yeah, sorry. In defeat, I find it difficult to give clever comebacks. It’s easier just to take my medicine and accept that I’ve been thwarted.
Nice try though, I thought, but I obviously can’t fool you.
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Yet Another Observer said:
for the record, Grouchy Marxist @deadkeneneddie
kisses.xxx
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Paul (@LazySavant) said:
Death to peodophiles, and Santa Claus. The two are not mutually exclusive.
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Yet Another Observer said:
Hack traces members of the public’s phone numbers
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Paul (@LazySavant) said:
sɹǝqɯnu ǝuoɥd s’ɔıןqnd ǝɥʇ ɟo sɹǝqɯǝɯ sǝɔɐɹʇ ʞɔɐɥ
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Paul (@LazySavant) said:
Ohhh I get it. Like Groucho Marx. It’s a good one.
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nuggy said:
whats was this blog post about agian ive forgotten.
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Paul (@LazySavant) said:
Beats me. ‘Yet Another Observer’ successfully derailed it.
Troll.
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Yet Another Observer said:
Hahaha.
Hack traces member of the publics’ phone numbers.
Changes story countless times.
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Paul (@LazySavant) said:
Hey guys, I just rang a plumber and he was all like “Hey, how’d you get my number?” so I was like “phonebook” and he was like “Right, get me the nearest blogger. I’m fucking furious!!!”
The fact is plumber and number both have “umber” in them. Umber is a natural brown clay pigment that contains iron and manganese oxides. Coincidence? I think not. I am definitely guilty of something.
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Yet Another Observer said:
Small group of manipulative bullies thwarting organised paedophile CSA campaigns with multiple ids the driving force behind her illegal tactics.
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118118 said:
Paul you’re assuming the people who were contacted were listed in the phonebook are you not? In fact we don’t know that they are. In fact one of those people has stated his phone is not even in his name.
Plumber and dumber also both have “umber” in them too btw.
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Paul (@LazySavant) said:
Haha, nice name. And no, I’m not. Not at all. That would be far too simple, right?
Unlike pretty much everybody on this blog, I actually know how it was done. That’s why it’s so funny to watch the arguing etc.
I imagine Sonia is also very amused, as she (obviously) knows too.
I like Plumber & Dumber, it’s a funny movie.
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118118 said:
Millions of followers? Don’t you mean less than 7,000? Until a week or so ago I hadn’t ever heard of this person.
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Yet Another Observer said:
@Paul You say you ‘know how it was done’ regarding the tracing, unlike ‘every one on this blog’.
Do tell us how she did it then please, and no, they were not all in the phone book. How did you get this ‘knowledge’? It suggests a personal association at the very least, at worst, a collaborative effort to obtain them. But then, you have already been evidentially linked through your tweets to the hack, so you are already inculcated.
Or are you being a professional bullshitter yet again?
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Paul (@LazySavant) said:
*ahem* Professional gobshite.
Plenty people know how it’s done. What a bizarre assumption. I also know how to “hack” mobile phone voicemails. It doesn’t mean I worked for the News of the World.
You know when you learn how a magic trick is done, and it just doesn’t seem that fascinating anymore? That’s what will happen if you ever find out the truth.
It does speak volumes, though, that everybody is so convinced they know it all (e.g. you) yet lack the fundamental knowledge needed to make any sense of it!
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Yet Another Observer said:
@Paul You know how to hack voicemails too? You are a busy boy Grouchy!
Actually, I DO NOT think many decent people know how to hack phones and trace ex directory numbers!
And you equate illegal activities to doing a ‘magic trick’. Does it titillate you to tap into peoples voicemails and trace calls? Do you feel like you’ve ‘got one over’ on the victims? Typical hack sentiments that, or a thugs, at the very least.
And no, it’s not just me that is alarmed at these revelations. Plenty are interested in this story. As the posts and the interest generated prove.
It is your blase attitude most here are bemused by and finding alarming.
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Paul (@LazySavant) said:
Haha, I’m not blasé. Just well informed.
Who said I have ever done those things? I know how to shoot a man in the head – doesn’t mean I’ve ever done it. It’s exactly this sort of sensationalist thinking that gets you lot all worked up in the first place.
The interest is from just that. It sounds good written down.
And who is “most here”? – you’re the only one talking to me! Anyway, you’re ultimately wasting your time with me. I’m useless to you.
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118118 said:
It’s very easy to “hack” into someone’s mobile voicmail. If they haven’t changed their default pin then any idiot can do it, even nosey bastards like Paul.
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Yet Another Observer said:
But where did you learn how to hack? It’s not the average decent person’s preoccupation. I sense a bit of backtracking. Do you think sensationalist thinking is based on evidence then? I’ve quoted what you said.
And on the contrary, I’m becoming increasingly aware you are very useful for me at getting to the truth of how this was done, and who helped.
Remember she said her ‘techies’ were on the case? People who knew how to do it? Of course, doesn’t mean you’d have to ‘use’ that knowledge does it….a bit like pretending to perform a magic trick I guess….
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Yet Another Observer said:
@118118 It’s the intention that troubles me….and we are talking about a hack let’s not forget. very worrying.
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Paul (@LazySavant) said:
Again, never done it. But like you said, it’s very easy. Or was.
You can hardly call me a “nosey bastard” just because I know how to do something. By that logic, you must be a nosey bastard too.
To YAO, it’s not like that. I’m not a “hacker” or even any good at coding. But I know enough about technology to know how certain things get done.
BUT – that’s not to say Sonia even went so far. Like I said, everybody is thinking it’s bigger than it is.
E.g. people think “phone hacking” is this big, elaborate, clever thing, but as 118 just pointed out – it’s far from it. It just gets sensationalised.
I saw a video on Youtube where some comedian did exactly this to a troll who was pestering him. Nobody hounded him though.
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Yet Another Observer said:
@Paul Again, he wasn’t a journalist. Ever heard of Milly Dowler and Leverson?
Do you think it’s acceptable for a hack to trace and phone victimised people on twitter because you have taken sides with a group of overbearing bullies? That is the real issue, and no amount of fudging and distraction can cover that up.
It is a ‘big, elaborate thing’ to the ones whose personal freedoms have been attacked. Or don’t you agree on that? Would you like it done to you?
You say its ‘not to say Sonia even went so far’ – but that is what she did – she said so and the tweets are there in evidence, the phone calls made. Don’t try deny what is patently obvious please. If what you believe could even be true at best she looks like a bullly bragging about it and trying to intimidate already victimised people. Not to say distinctly unprofessional.
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118118 said:
Yes it is, and her twitterings on the subject are distinctly unprofessional at best. At worst we’ve yet to find out.
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Paul (@LazySavant) said:
The names ring a bell, yes.
I’m not siding with anybody. I think you’re all nuts. Here’s an example (relating to something I said earlier) – I DO think ‘Outlaw’ is right about Tom’s approach to ‘news’ – however, I also note that he’s on that damn ‘Alternative News Network’ where people have all sorts of stupid conspiracy theories, so I think maybe he’s not too reliable in the long run.
I also have no background to Sonia. Like most, my first instinct was “she writes for the Mail, she must be trouble” but apparently this isn’t really the case.
Also, I see all this stuff about calling people peadophiles and other people saying they’re not and it all looks nuts to me. I mean – who can possibly be right?!
The fact she’s a journalist surely doesn’t enter into it unless she uses the numbers to help her do a story. And what of the people who “trolled” her to begin with? It’s all open to opinion really.
If somebody called me after getting my number, I’d probably be more concerned about where they got it than anything else. I’d just ignore them. I get enough PPI calls etc. to be really notice the difference.
I just think it’s all become a bit silly – and perhaps a truth should have been determined before it became a story. Now it’s just like everybody is arguing because of the story.
[Paul – I assure you I’m much more of a cock-up and cover-up man than a conspiracy theorist. I’m not even sure what the ‘Alternative News Network’ is.] – Tom
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Paul (@LazySavant) said:
Oh, and I only started talking to you because I think it’s crazy that you think everybody is the same person.
While it may happen, I imagine it happens on both sides anyway, and it’s silly to just immediately assume this all the time.
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Paul (@LazySavant) said:
Tom, it’s not you I’m referring to re: conspiracies and ANN. It’s ‘Outlaw’ and the others here: http://alternative-news-network.net/ i.e. I agree with him about you; but I also acknowledge that he seems to associate with conspiracy theorists etc.
[oops – sorry] – Tom
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moragmcginty said:
I concur, Outlaw…a ;lot more going on than the face value TP and those who support him are proclaiming. Half truths can be so much more damaging than outright lies.
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moragmcginty said:
Well said…divide and conquer rules the UK and that’s why the elite get away with mudrer. Literally.
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moragmcginty said:
What utter nonsense…rumours, innuendo, snippets, lies…You know nothing about this lady that you are GOSSIPING about.
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moragmcginty said:
LIE. She has said the police are involved.
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moragmcginty said:
Mine, too, Sharon. What about that certain person from Holland who advertised SPs and email and abuse victims #s on Twitter and other media so that she could receive vile disgusting calls and emails. One of these victims has ended up in hospital, by the way, due to the stress.
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moragmcginty said:
The context is over several posts and comments, emails and PMs. What TP has screenshot is censorship and totally out of context.
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moragmcginty said:
She has recieved vile, odious and sickening threats and abuse via voicemail and email…streams and streams of them The police are involved and she is not accountable to TP who has, to date, refused to and completely ignored my polite quetions and that of many others.
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moragmcginty said:
In fact, BB, she has not written for the DM for a whjile and the pieces she has done have been very unlike their normal right wing stuff. So calling her a ‘Daily Mail Hack’ in headlines is either unresearched or a deliberate attempt to mislead.
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moragmcginty said:
Out and out lie re hacking numbers through Twitter for goodness sake!!!!
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bobchewie said:
@MM what about the phrase ‘dirty hacks’…? that your chums have used
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bobchewie said:
appalled to see anti semitic stuff on conspiracy sites some quite overt too..
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bobchewie said:
@PAUL Lazysavant paul you overlooked something when you wrote that stuff about me. and that was the fact that someone might actually believe it, in fact that very nearly happened, and look who it was..someone you agree with…oh dear…
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Outlaw said:
Got to admire your front Janet, after the chaos you and your buddies have caused. I heard you were now charging people for Skype Abuse Counselling Sessions. You going to respond or run away again?
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Outlaw said:
The people who I have been ‘abusing’??? So there has been nothing said bout me that you have seen I take it. I have never once ‘Bullied’ nor ‘abused’ any genuine CSA survivor. You saying that here only proves how one sided and selective your views are…. And as such are of little importance to me. Smacks of Bigotry….. 🙂
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Outlaw said:
Showing your identity now…. Careful there are eyes on this.
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bobchewie said:
@PAUL @LAZYSAVANT “I did, indeed, write that piece.
It’s a piece designed to take the piss out of paranoia – because it’s so ludicrous. It’s designed to take the piss out of people like you, and it succeeded.”
spivey : “So what this cretin is now saying is that he let this piece of old bollocks run for a week before admitting that it was bollocks. In that time any number of gullible idiots will have taken it as fact.”
Outlaw says: “Oh Wow… I think that I am guilty of suspecting BobChewie also as I have been under siege lately on Social Networks and on my blog.
Bob has been posting on my blog regularly to the point where it seemed that his responses were arriving before I had even uploaded the links to Twitter etc.
It did seem almost ‘robotic’ inasmuch as they were very well constructed replies of some length and literally posted within seconds of my blog post appearing…
Unfortunately, Bob’s responses have arrived in the middle of many attacks on me due to my stance on CSA issues, and I am the first to admit that it is not always easy to know who the ‘Good Guys’ are when the wrong ‘uns seem to be everywhere.
So, if you are reading this Bob, please accept my apologies as in normal circumstances I would not have associated your comments with those who are deliberately attempting to discredit me, and tirelessly attempt to silence me… 😦 ”
and now i am ”the enemy ”and ppl post up pictures of trees…..to show what a thorougly bad lot i am…..
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Outlaw said:
Ha Ha, predictable to the point of narcolepsy…. Jealous narcissistic thug? Have you been reading my Blog again? Odd that one such as you can form an opinion on somebody by never meeting or even speaking to them… Hive mentality in action, and maybe if you get out of Tom’s arse for long enough you may get to meet some real people, in the real world…. I can but hope 😦
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118118 said:
Tom? Can you comment a bit more please. We’re getting withdrawal symptoms
luv from your fan club 😀
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bobchewie said:
“Whatever you say Roy, and for the record my mind is the healthiest part of me, but thanks for the diagnosis :-)”
“Oh Wow… I think that I am guilty of suspecting BobChewie also as I have been under siege lately on Social Networks and on my blog. ”
re: BOBCHEWIE the computer program.
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Paul said:
Bob, I didn’t overlook it – I expected all sorts, including people thinking I actually believed it myself (which they did)
You’re right though, Outlaw did appear to believe it. No idea why. But at least he apologised when he realised. Maybe you’re just so fast that it made sense!
By the way, the post was only up for like 3 days – not a week. I changed the date. Your mate Spivey and his massive 127 IQ overlooked that.
I have no idea what all this tree stuff is about, but I’d love to know…
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bobchewie said:
@paul suggest you tell christopher spivey that..i am sure he’ll be pleased to hear.
the tech here does need looking into ..a matter of which there are discussions ongoing regarding it. good that you draw attention to this issue ..will see what head of dept says on the matter..
the ‘tree’ was an investigative piece with regard to the organisation…we are looking at options about this situation and will form and provide a considered response..in due course.
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Sharon said:
Thank you Paul, you speak a lot of sense and I have to agree with all you say.
I am in no way the person Yet another observer thinks I am lol nut each to their own fantasies I say.
My name is Sharon and I live in Mid-Wales and I think the blogger has done himself an injustice with all of this. Plain and simple. Observations from my other posts has been purely made from reading all the timelines and doing a bit of looking up on the internet. Wasn’t hard to see who the real problem people were from that.
I’ve been following the journalist this blog has decided to defame for a long time now. We share many of the same values and opinions and it’s not very nice to see the treatment they are receiving after all the good they have done and continue in doing and that’s all it is. If this group of people on this blog site are truly worried about victims as they say they are then they should be grouping up with said journalist instead of working against and attacking them as they are doing.
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cvheerden said:
In South Africa this goes so far that people who have the nerves saying anything not in line with the governments views have a good chance seeing their tweets published at the Sunday edition of City Press or worse, being interviewed and forced to say sorry with their photo and everything in the newspaper. Internet, connectedness, social media – it’s all quickly coming together in the biggest, most effective world-wide power-control system history has ever seen. Jack Reacher micht be onto something. Leave no traces.
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Not Sonia Poulton said:
Tom, i just read on another of your blogs about trolls that the woman Sonia Poulton identified here http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/420369/How-I-unmasked-my-vile-Twitter-trolls as “A woman in Holland” made an attempt at suicide yesterday because of Poulton’s twisted and evil publication in the Express, as anyone who follows all her and her twitter supertrolls garbage can identify her from the article and that is libel !
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Not Sonia Poulton said:
Not satisfied with pushing janette to the brink, yesterday they started on her husband here https://twitter.com/scabbydick
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Ivanovich said:
These are the disgraceful mobile phone texts sent to the “woman in holland” by Sonia Poulton Super Troll
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You have run my mobile number on Twitter and your website and the police are now involved. Do not contact me again.
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Leave a GENUINE survivor out of this. You have behaved despicably. What have you and your buddies got to hide eh? The beauty about being a real journalist is how much information is at my fingertips, Kev. You thought you could carry on but you can’t. Dear me I kind of feel for you now the truth is going to be known.
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On behalf of my editors I would like to thank you for giving me one of the best stories so far this year, Janette. You are a woman with many interesting strings to you bow. Even genuine campaigners are coming to me now and telling the truth about you. People have worked you out. Why did this person keep creating distractions from helping child who are abused, they say? And then the penny dropped. I feel we may have to work overtime making you presentable for the camera though. That’s the problem about inner ugliness, it shows on the outside.
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I never said we spoke. I called you love. You’re not well are you? DM will laugh their head off at you seeing as I’m freelance. I’m my own boss. Mind you sweetcheeks, I think we both know you have more to hide than I do. Oh I look forward to revealing you Janette or is it Kevin today? Lol
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You’re a piece of filth Janette. We know about you, your history, your family, you really should’ve stayed in your pit because now you are playing with big people. Watch for that knock on the door luv! Lolololol enjoy your evening. Your wickedness is catching up with you and professionals will run you in circles.
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I know everything about you and I am not messing. I called you twice and you didn’t pick up. Even your friends are squealing now Kevin.
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So its not you on twitter assaulting me?
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I’m coming for you Janette. Got people in Holland who want to interview you about your behaviour. You know you messed with the wrong person this time. Oh and I do wonder why the Huff Post keep showing up. Tsk Tsk. Its wonderful to have contacts against wicked people.
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Oh wow Kevin people really have seen through you. All these screenshots of Janette_53…tsk tsk you have created big enemies and the thing is they are pretending to agree with you for information. That must be horrible. But then you deserve it. You watch. You’re going to get exposed. And so are those who foolishly thought they could benefit from twitter hashtags and website hits. I’m on the side of right and you know it.
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I am aware of your history, the people you have ties with – including names and addresses. I have 10 techies who know about your false identities. You picked the wrong person to mess with. My best advice to you is to quietly disappear
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This is Sonia Poulton. It has come to my attention that you may have a problem with me. In fact, I have been informed you are ‘running a smear campaign on me’. You don’t want to do that. I’m not someone who takes crap like that. Take that as a warning to pursue if you don’t sort your self out.
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Just got this message. In and out of meetings. Why would anyone think I would alter a message? What is going on here? Sonia Poulton
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bobchewie said:
August 18, 2013 at 5:52 pm
you would think that SP would have better things to do..
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Dobronovich said:
August 18, 2013 at 6:10 pm
These texts to the “woman in holland” from Sonia Poulton are disgraceful, and as Tom has so eloquently pointed out, she seems to have employed “techies” to locate the woman in holland, so that is basically a MSM hack hackingg ! I believe the dutch and UK police should apprehend Sonia Poulton as sending so many texts in a short space of time, combined with the nasty tweets over a period of time is most definitely criminal harassment under the 1997 Protection from Harassment & The Malicious Communications Act 1998.
Remember those trolls @theoutlawjimmy Here’s Pt. 1 on them (tweet screenshots to be added, thanks my lovely) express.co.uk/news/uk/420369…—
Sonia Poulton (@SoniaPoulton) August 07, 2013
SONIA POULTON: Discovering my vile internet trolls | UK | News | Daily Express express.co.uk/news/uk/420369…—
Sonia Poulton (@SoniaPoulton) August 07, 2013
Aren’t internet trolls funny? I have been given telephone numbers of mine today and I started calling them. One by one. Talk about cowards.—
Sonia Poulton (@SoniaPoulton) May 06, 2013
http://dawnwillis.wordpress.com/2013/05/08/the-astounding-140-character-troll-war-surrounding-thomaspride-and-soniapoulton/
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Ivanovich said:
MZ. SONIA POULTON SHOULD NOW BE INVESTIGATED BY THE DUTCH AND UK POLICE. THE TEXT MESSAGES TO THE WOMAN IN HOLLAND ABOVE, COMBINED WITH THE NASTY TWEETS ABOUT THE WOMAN FROM HOLLAND ARE MALICIOUS PUBLICATIONS, MALICIOUS COMMUNICATIONS UNDER THE 1997 AND 1998 MALICIOUS COMMUNICATIONS ACT AND PROTECTION FROM HARASSMENT ACT.
“Remember those trolls @theoutlawjimmy Here’s Pt. 1 on them (tweet screenshots to be added, thanks my lovely) express.co.uk/news/uk/420369…—
Sonia Poulton (@SoniaPoulton) August 07, 2013”
Почему-то я не думаю, что мы должны см. Часть вторая от Соня
SOMEHOW I DO NOT THINK WE SHALL SEE PART TWO FROM SONIA
OP EEN OF ANDERE MANIER DENK IK NIET DAT WE ZULLEN ZIEN DEEL TWEE VAN SONIA
莫名其妙地我不认为我们将看从索尼娅的第两部分
איכשהו אני לא חושב שאנחנו נראה חלק שני מסוניה
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Babooshka said:
SEE THIS HYPOCRITICAL DIATRIBE FROM SONIA POULTON
http://www.express.co.uk/comment/expresscomment/327164/A-blow-to-cyber-bullies
QUOTE FROM SUPERTROLL SONIA POULTON IN THE ABOVE RAG.
“Generally, my approach to trolls is to ignore them, while keeping in mind that they are, above all else, to be pitied. Undoubtedly, they need help. It’s clearly not reasonable or healthy behaviour to obsess so much about other people, especially those we don’t know.
PEOPLE who lead full and productive lives do not become trolls but those who are dissatisfied, and who have mental health issues, often do. Last week, critics expressed their fears about Ms Brookes’s partial victory. They worry that the power to name and shame trolls, including the possibility of prosecution, will lead to censorship and damage free speech.
I disagree. Freedom of speech should not include the freedom to bully and spread lies. Perhaps by exposing trolls it will serve as a warning that our society is no longer prepared to tolerate abuse.”
IS SONIA POULTON PERHAPS WRITING ABOUT HERSELF ?
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Babooshka said:
Sonia Poulton – Welcome
soniapoulton.co.uk/
Sonia Poulton – Welcome. … If you are here because of David Icke’s new TV and Radio project, The People’s Voice then YES I am involved – and delighted to be.
Biography – Current Media – Journalism – Broadcasting
SO, WHAT DO WE HAVE HERE, SONIA POULTON HAS BEEN PROMOTING DISINFORMATION AGENT DAVID ICKE FOR MONTHS NOW, A MAN WHO BELIEVES HE IS JESUS AND THAT THE DEAR QUEEN OF ENGLAND AND HER FAMILY ARE REALLY METAMORPHOSING LIZARDS. NOW THAT DOES REEK OF MENTAL ILLNESS DOES IT NOT.
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VishNeDa said:
“I disagree. Freedom of speech should not include the freedom to bully and spread lies. Perhaps by exposing trolls it will serve as a warning that our society is no longer prepared to tolerate abuse.”
IS SONIA POULTON PERHAPS WRITING ABOUT HERSELF ?
Oh dear Babooshka, you have hit the nail right on the head here. Tom has done an amazing job in exposing the biggest supertroll in the UK who has been busy spreading her lies. Society should not tolerate this vile supertroll and should stop her ceaseless abusive trolling and destructive lifestyle !
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IvanTheTerrible said:
ONE MUST DEFINITELY READ THIS GARBAGE BY SONIA POULTON AND DAVID ICKE CALLING US LIZARDS DEAR PHILIP, ORRFF WITH THEIR HEADS DEAR !
http://mccannhateexposed.pbworks.com/w/page/63794515/Sonia%20Poulton
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DestroyTheTwitterTrollsUnited said:
Tom dear, you are rapidly becoming an internet sensation.
http://ilegality.wordpress.com/tag/sonia-poulton/
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Holmey said:
Just posted by Sonia Poulton on her Facebook….
“E-mail just now from ‘friendly insider in Whitehall’: ‘You are too outspoken and should be careful with your words. You make some people uncomfortable’.
Sadly, could not respond as e-mail just bounced back, but I wrote: ‘Good. I’m not here to provide room service for elitists. By the way, I always make sure to let people know that if anything happens to me then it shouldn’t automatically be assumed it’s an accident.”
Tried to reply and it bounced? Does that sound like a threat to you?
Holmey
MORE HERE http://dwpexamination.org/forum/general-discussion/sonia-poulton-threatened/
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VeryWorrying said:
http://jandeane81.com/showthread.php?5527-Child-abuse-list-ritual-abuse
about Sonia
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Contributor said:
http://www.yatedo.com/p/Sonia+Poulton/normal/a0253aef652fa8ef98b3d2f843512338
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Sharon Gifford said:
Hi Tom, I hope you are well ?
You are mentioned in comments on this You Tube Page: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_32yFRi7OQ (also copied below)
I was wondering if you cared to make any comments? But I certainly felt you should know.
You may not be aware but Sonia Poulton is currently bullying another person, on her face book page claiming he has “very important” film of hers. The police have been informed.
I have also sent the you tube link to the Hollie Greig hoax team.
Best Wishes
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Sharon Gifford said:
This message from here : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_32yFRi7OQ
Firstly Sonia has had no contact with Tom Pride, an anonymous blogger who will NOT face her live in an interview but wants to hang on to her coat tails and try to defame her just as you do. You were paid at TPV and that is a fact. And you were fired. I don’t need to provide you with proof of anything – I am not the liar here and some of us have important work to do. Let me point out to the readers here yet another one of your lies. Sonia has facebook messages where she has had lengthy discussions with those who oppose the Hollie Greig story – including Mrs. Wyn-Dragon – and she has offered them a platform to say their piece. You can take this message back to whomever wants to continue spreading that particular lie. Where do you get these lies from? You have way too much time on your hands. I have no plan to block your comments at the moment because people need to see the horrendous people that were blood-sucking the life out of TPV and out of Sonia and you are doing a damn good job of showing everyone why TPV struggled. You have little or no media experience Sharon. You struck lucky because of your son. You wanted to set up a platform similar to TPV – which Sonia is now doing – and you do not have the support to do it. No-one knows you. You have not stood for anything other than ripping apart those who have been prepared to get out there and do the dirty work. Once again, Sharon, good luck with your blog. Try and build that up and you may be able to progress further but until then it may be a good idea not to try and compete with those who have been doing this work for years and knows it inside and out. Unlike yourself. Don’t be bitter, Sharon, it comes over in every word you say. It’s embarrassing to witness it. Very cringe-worthy. And what a low blow to use the name of Hollie Greig to try to score points. I should point out that I have read reams of legal documents pertaining to this disgraceful case and you need to stop using the issue of child abuse to blatantly try and score points. It’s disgusting and people will see through you. That’s if they even care to. Now forgive me if I don’t answer any more of your vitriolic messages. I feel I have covered all that is necessary and both Sonia and I have an important job to do today filming the type of cases that you should be looking into rather than attacking those who actually are. Here’s a clue, Sharon, it’s about the return of slavery to the statute books in the UK. A fairly important subject, don’t you think? http://www.soniapoulton.com News Without Filters (but plenty of trolls!).
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