One of the biggest and most ridiculous lies spun by the UK press is that the Brexit vote was some kind of ‘working class rebellion’ – led by Jacob Rees-Mogg, Viscount Rothermere and Boris Johnson – against the ‘establishment’.
The truth is, of course, that the most working class parts of the UK were Remain strongholds: Liverpool, Glasgow, Manchester, Peckham, Newcastle etc.
A quick look at the 44 people running the official hard-Brexit campaign group Leave Means Leave reveals all but one of them are white and male:
And more than 60% of these supposedly working-class anti-establishment campaigners were educated at public schools and are from the south of England.
Somewhat destroying the popular narrative …
sdbast said:
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A Disciple said:
Reblogged this on say what?.
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Nick said:
I agree with what Donald task said about these people who Brexit is of no concern. they have the means to do whatever on a bad no Brexit deal and therefore their views are worthless
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Nick said:
no normal person would put the lives of others at risk in their day to day life’ so why are the likes of the above allowed to do so. That’s politics for you and that’s the same the world over where inadequate selfish people become involved in politics just to further their own endgame of whatever their whims desire and to hell with the consequences
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Henry Rumbold said:
And virtually none came from Scotland.
The Brexiteers bang on that leave obtained by a ‘clear’ majority but overlook the fact that Scotland and Northern Ireland both backed staying in the EU. Scotland backed Remain by 62% to 38%, while 55.8% in Northern Ireland voted Remain and 44.2% Leave. if their wishes are treated with contempt by a hard Brexit then Northern Ireland will probably vote to join the Republic (no bad thing) and Scotland will vote for independence leaving the Hard Brexiteers with only England & Wales, a fit result for Luttle Englanders
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rotzeichen said:
Isn’t this the reason we need to concentrate on exposing them, the Tories are the main problem brexit is the sideshow designed to distract all attention away from them, and most are being led by the nose.
The Tories will crash out taking this to the wire, whilst others are dithering over something that only the Tories and DUP can sort out. They are the ones in government, the rest of us are on the sidelines just spectating, although some also want to detract away from the real issues facing all of us by blaming Jeremy Corbyn for everything.
The EU is no longer a social democracy and those that campaign to stay in are 30 years out of date. Why do people think all across Europe protesters are wearing yellow vests, and no they are not just fascists.
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AfterAtosAssessment (@AfterAtosAssess) said:
The fact is the majority of England voted out, except for inner cities.Scotland on the whole voted remain and wales was leave on a very narrow majority.
Both traditional working class, ethnics from commonwealth and Tories alongside businesses and farmers cheesed off at being messed around by Brussels voted Leave.
The remainers are the large mushroom of middle class intellectuals teachers and liberals.
On that the lower working class and traditional British working class and Tory are united OUT! as both are more nationalistic and patriotic than the middle.
It is very easy to decide the leave rested on stupid lower working class white people, It takes more than a few Monty Python Dereks in knotted handkerchief headdress and rolled up trousers and braces to vote OUT nationally.
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Meryl Davids said:
The truth is the people voting to leave were in traditional labour supporting areas, the metropolitans may consider they are the only important people but the ones who wanted out are the ones who gain nothing from membership of the corrupt democratically deficient eu, but lose a lot, the ones whose jobs have disappeared in the small and moderate sized town which have essentially become dormitory towns to feed the large metropolitan complexes it is the little guys who rose up, the t is why the elite are doing their utmost to ignore the largest mandate ever handed to a government to do something, which is leave the eu. Labour voters voted out not the tory elite.
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Meryl Davids said:
Henry Rumold Scotland has a total population 2 million less than that of London, so the vote was a tiny proportion of Great Britain and Northern Ireland which is the member not the individual nations, out of GB, and NI would mean out of the eu, Northern Ireland will not vote to join Ireland to be in the eu.
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lawrencesroberts said:
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Nicola Barnes said:
AfterAtosAssessment is wrong about remainers “large mushroom of middle class intellectuals teachers and liberals.”
A large portion of remainers including myself, my parents and my uncle are working class.
Meryl Davids is talking out of his ass when he claims “Labour voters voted out not the tory elite.”
The leave campaign including the “Labour Leave” campaign was funded by the Tory elite. They voted out. They managed to con about a third of labour supporters into following them but the vast majority of Labour supporters voted remain.
On the talk of Ireland, the DUP are correct that the current surveys suggest that a majority of the NI people want to remain part of the UK, however those same surveys also say that should the UK leave the EU there will be a shift giving a united Ireland an edge over remaining in the UK and should a hard border ensue a united Ireland gains a 16 point lead over staying in the UK.
If brexit has told us nothing else it has shown that the Westminster government is corrupt and democratically deficient, not the EU.
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rotzeichen said:
If what you say is true, politically it will put Labour in a stronger position because we wouldn’t have a perpetual flow of right wing politicians taking their seats in parliament.
I would of course not want to see that happen because we really don’t know how it would all end.
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Lionel Smith said:
Should not Richard Drax appear in that group. I have lost count how many times I have driven past that long wall on the boundary of his Dorset estate.
Some of his inherited wealth would have been due to, according to Wikipedia:
“In 2013, the BBC revealed that his ancestor John Erle-Drax had been a slave trader, who had received £4,293 12s 6d in compensation when the slave trade was abolished.”
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Meryl Davids said:
Nicola barnes like so many middle class labour supporters is ignoring the government statistics that showed the overwhelming majority of leave votes came in traditional Labour Party supporting areas, that is a simple fact that annoys the hell out of the not so working class.
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Lionel Smith said:
Meryl Davids has missed a thing or three.
Labour voters were 65/35 in favour of remain
The age and education demographics of the vote tend to support that standard of education and age played a part with those most open to suggestion from elements of the media Voted leave.
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2016/06/27/how-britain-voted
The old industrial heartlands have been particularly badly served by politicians, of all stripes, but The Sun (and other wayward organs) has ensured many have amnesia about the vicious nature of Tory policies in that area.
That was then, now the reality of likely vote would be for remain, as the dubious nature of the Leave campaign and the economic and other downsides of a Brexit are more widely understood.
Brexit can no longer be described as ‘the will of the people’ if it ever was which is doubtful and anybody still sticking to that line, including the PM, is being disingenuous.
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MrJeff3 said:
Claims that only eight people turned up look to be unkind. However, an audience of 20-25 people in a city region of 1.4 million or so people that voted heavily in favour of remaining in the EU is hardly stellar. There appears to be no evidence to support the campaign’s claim of ‘at least 100’ attendees, although even 100 would hardly be compelling.
It appears that Liverpool – a stronghold of Corbynism as well as a strong remain area – recognises that a Labour government is a far higher priority and that this goal would be damaged by any attempt to prevent the implementation of the 2016 referendum result
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Meryl Davids said:
Most leave votes were cast in traditional labour supporting areas, to pretend otherwise with made up figures does you no favours.
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Lionel Smith said:
So Meryl Davis your unsupported figures have more authority than those I demonstrated. Sorry but I do not believe anything simply based on say-so.
As I remarked, that was then this is now and many have changed their minds seeing what a clusterf**k Brexit has been, and something many of us warned it would be. Our warnings, warnings based upon understanding of the agreements and structures of the EU and of world trade were sneeringly dismissed as ‘scare stories’. Well the chickens are coming home to roost and many proponents of Brexit have egg on their face as demonstrated by the many posters popping up reminding the nation of what the devious Brexit propagandists said or wrote.
Amongst those that have changed their mind:
“I swallowed the Brexit lies. Now I regret telling curry house workers to vote leave”
“One of the many myths and mysteries of the 2016 referendum campaign is that people from the south-east Asian community backed a leave campaign that was so often linked to bigotry.
The truth is, they didn’t. A majority of voters of south-east Asian heritage supported remain – but more of us voted for Brexit than anyone expected. Not only was I one of them; I also bear some responsibility, as the head of an organisation that urged our 150,000 members and 12,000 restaurants to vote leave.”
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/feb/15/brexit-lies-curry-vote-leave-restaurant-industry
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Meryl Davids said:
Well the figures from the national statistics show conclusively most leave votes were cast in areas that traditionally vote labour if you consider them unsubstantiated then there is nothing you will believe that alters your incorrect assumption only tory voters wanted us to leave.
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Lionel Smith said:
Meryl Davis gets it wrong, again
“.,..there is nothing you will believe that alters your incorrect assumption only tory voters wanted us to leave.”
A misrepresentation of my responses by inventing something that I never implied. Another logical fallacy unsupported by any facts, in other words a straw man. Accusing me of making assumptions is pure projection.
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Meryl Davids said:
Your rather simplistic assumption that labour voters voted 65 to 35 in favour of remain does you no favours and continuing to repeat the incorrect claim is foolish we labour voters and supporters are not being correctly represented by the Labour Party mp’s or those who attended the Labour Party Conference, it is not possible to make any claim that the Labour Party supports remain because we the voters are not being included in the figure.
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a said:
I can see my comment has been censored, which is weird because yesterday it had been posted? wordpress on the warpath?
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liberalsarethick said:
http://www.eutruth.org.uk/
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Meryl Davids said:
There is no hard or soft Brexit, terminology invented after the vote by losing remainers just leave or remain, we didn’t say leave but only with a good deal or leave in name only we said leave, the ignorance that only elderly white men voted to leave whilst vibrant young people voted remain is the big lie. more Labour voters Labour constituencies voted to leave than remain because that makes more sense than the extreme right wing fascist eu membership does.
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