While everyone is being distracted by the continuing resignations from Theresa May’s disintegrating government, the Tories are openly talking among themselves (again) about charging for NHS services.
An article on the influential Conservative Home website today proposes charging NHS users for GP visits and hospital stays:
The Tories are probably hoping nobody will notice or remember they were discussing these proposals when the next election comes.
We will have to remind them …
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Useless Tories with their private dentists. They have no idea that the dental health of half the country has gone to pot, because dentists cannot do complex work on NHS rates so end up extracting instead. Many cannot even afford the NHS scale of fees so never visit dentists.
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That is totally against the principles of the NHS which is that all treatment must be free at the point of use and throughout all the treatment. That is what National Insurance is for. To charge would be to deter people from attending as it did when introduced in Ireland. This is privatisation by making people having to take out insurance. Stop PFI, Outsourcing and properly fund the NHS which would make this avoidable. This is simple ideology and will not escape the electorate.
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This is just the thin edge of the wedge. Full privatisation is what the Tories have wanted since they were elected in 2010. What the hell have people been paying national insurance for. We should have the best health care system in the world with the amount of monies people have paid over the years. We are one step away from Medicare/Medicaid and private health insurance. The size of our wallets will determine what type of care/treatment people will receive just like the American system.
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PLEASE Remember that you can never ever trust or believe a tory or Westminster no matter who is in power.!!!
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Tories dismantling the NHS and the state whilst people are looking the other way, watching the fiasco of their making collapsing the talks in the EU, which is only a distraction because ultimately they they are doing a trade deal with Trump.
Richard Graham Conservative, Gloucester
I welcome the Prime Minister’s commitment to pursuing accession to the Trans-Pacific Partnership, which would give us the opportunity to have closer trading links with some of the world’s fastest-growing economies. Will she seize the moment with President Trump here this week to raise the question of whether the United States of America might reconsider its relationship with the proposed TPP?
This TTIP type deal is what the whole Neo-Liberal agenda is all about, the EU is just a distraction, this is what this corrupt government is really aiming for, and Europe is a sideshow, by the time it has all happened the Tories will try to convince us that it will be irreversible.
If it does happen, we should remember that politics is a human made creation, and humans can always undo what has been created, just look how the Tories are dismantling our NHS.
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Bloody totally disgusting
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£20 may not be a lot to Tory MPs but it’s enough to deter very many poor people. We’ll be back to a two tier system, where charity or church aid, is the only recourse for the increasing number of poor and homeless.
If you’re in an accident and in hospital for surgery, will the fact that afterwards it’s clear that you cannot pay, make you a criminal or will the hospital ask you first, as in America, if you have the money. Would it refuse to take you in, if you were broke?
This is hopeless.
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The Prime Minister must go…..
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a £20 fee will deter many people from going to the doctor. Until they can no longer cope and urgently need treatment.
Watch a stupendous rise in infectious diseases – watch people having to go to hospital as the disease was not contained in the early stages – watch more deaths that could have been prevented – watch expensive treatments for late stage disease – watch the end of the NHS
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Before the NHS in the 1920s my uncle, who was 7 years old, developed stomach ache. By the time the family had borrowed from friends and relatives and pawned some stuff enough for him to see a doctor his appendix had burst and he died after lingering on in agony for several days. This is what happened before the NHS. It is almost back to that now in places where there are not enough GPs to be able to see a Dr for several weeks. Where I live you have to go and queue outside the surgery from 7:30 in the morning if you are to have even a chance of a same day appointment.
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What about collecting.corporation taxes and emsuring all CEOs and MPs etc dont evade taxes obliged to pay out of their excessively generous salaries.
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They already charge OAPs for hospital stays by confiscating their state pensions after a week or two. This is despite the fact that rent, utility bills, council tax, etc. still have to be paid whether the occupant is at home or not. ________________________________
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If the Tories have there way all ordinary citizens will be dead as they won’t be able to afford to see a doctor! It makes me so mad that they can treat us this way, May is another Thatcher only worse!
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“If the Tories have there way all ordinary citizens will be dead ”
I am convinced that is their intent. Social re-engineering. It is certainly what the likes of J R_M are about.
How will those on Universal Credit pay for their stay in hospital given that that benefits docked if not working. So yes it is a cull of the population.
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Privatization by degrees.
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What infuriates me most about this Tory proposal is that they are perpetuating the neoliberal myth that taxation pays for public services. It does not. We are a sovereign nation which has its own currency and the Government simply creates the money it needs via the Bank of England. Taxation has a role in preventing the economy from over-heating (and, in theory, creating a degree of equality by taxing high-earners more than the rest of us) but we are not constrained by a lack of money. We can afford the NHS and can increase the amount we spend on it. That we do not is an ideological choice, not a financial one. Please read this explanation of Modern Monetary Theory and understand how our national economy works: https://think-left.org/2017/05/06/everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know-about-how-our-money-system-works-but-were-afraid-to-ask/
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And happens if you can’t afford it if you are slave labour wages.
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“They already charge OAPs for hospital stays by confiscating their state pensions ” no, they do not. The rule is that after six weeks in hospital any Pension Credit can be docked but not the actual State Pension.
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‘Co-payment’ is the euphemism here.
Charles Clarke was a prominent Labour Party advocate.
Look at how ‘modest’ prescription charges were originally and look at how much they are now.
We need to face facts and that is that the cost of Trident cannot be met from general taxation and so we will need to have high street collections to help pay for it
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Whatever happened to the promise that the NHS would be “Free at the point of entry”? Did they simply neglect to add: if you can afford to get there and pay for your stay, or were they being very Conservative with the truth?
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If this happens i think it’s fair that we don’t pay taxes. We all should not pay our yearly Council fee . That events it out a bit.
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so – how do we get rid of may and her cabal – the right wing of the labour party are all for supporting her – parliament looks after its own – civil revolution now – or just send more tweets????
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@Pauline Vernon. I totally agree with you. Central banking is the greatest scam in history! No government should have to borrow money. We should nationalise the banks; abolish the Bank of England; and create a National Monetary Authority (NMA). The NMA should be an independent agency that grants the government money for public expenditure; is accountable to parliament; and free of vested interests.
I’d like to say I came up with these brilliant ideas, but it was the Green Party and Justin Walker. Everyone needs to read this mind-blowing e-booklet by Justin Walker: https://www.ukcolumn.org/sites/default/files/pdf/bankers-bradburys-carnage-western-front.pdf
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You know who would never go along with this kind of wickedness? Civil rights activist Thomas Mair.
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If the means of these decision makers was reduced to the level some of the poorest people in the UK, I am certain that they would never consider this.
I strongly encourage those that can to follow my example and become an ex-patriot. Go to a nation that will appreciate, use and pay for your talents and live the life that you deserve instead of virtually all your money, time and effort being used to support the imbecilic political posturing that seems to be the order of the day in the UK.
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When, in 1951, Hugh Gaitskell, in an effort to fund the Korean War, imposed prescription charges for dental care and spectacles, Nye Bevan and the then-obscure Harold Wilson resigned from the cabinet. Here is an excerpt from Bevan’s resignation speech:
“This great nation has a message for the world which is distinct from that of America or that of the Soviet Union. Ever since 1945 we have been engaged in this country in the most remarkable piece of social reconstruction the world has ever seen.”
“the [military] defence programme must always be consistent with the maintenance of the standard of life of the British people and the maintenance of the social services, and that as soon as it became clear we had engaged upon an arms programme inconsistent with those considerations, I could no longer remain a Member of the Government”
“What is to be squeezed out next year? Is it the upper half`? When that has been squeezed out and the same principle holds good, what do you squeeze out the year after? Prescriptions? Hospital charges? Where do you stop?”
We. like Bevan, must be clear and principled: We will not allow any government spending, whether it be on defence, tax cuts or any other policy, to be prioritised over the fundemental founding principle of the NHS; free healthcare at the point of use, and nothing less.
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