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(not satire – it’s the NHS today!)
Contrary to what the Lib Dem/Tory government have been assuring us, the NHS has already been privatised.
But don’t just take my word for it.
MBI Health Group – no bitter lefties like me but a private healthcare management consultancy used by Southern Health NHS Foundation Trust amongst others – thinks so too.
The comments were made on the NHS’s 65th birthday last year and can still be seen here on the company’s own website.
In the same comments, MBI also seems to be advising its NHS clients that many NHS hospitals “are unsustainable and need to close”.
Shocking stuff.
Still, for a company working in such a diverse environment as the NHS, MBI doesn’t exactly represent a wide cross section of professional opinion in the healthcare sector.
After all, MBI’s 10-man management team is exactly that.
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Just in case MBI decide to delete the comments, here’s a screen shot of them:
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Here is one for you Tom
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If there is one thing in life where my hackles rise it is the advertising business.
Always has as far back as I can remember……
I thank you for reminding me of my hackles and I understand your cynicism.
It is a bitter pill though which is best avoided.
Where’s that joint?
(just joking)
🙂
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If privatisation ushers in a more competitive and a better standard of care, who is bothered if some weathy Tories make a nice buck out of it? — Obamacare (because of course Barack Obama is a committed Marxist) is being modelled on our socialist NHS — which in many hospitals in Britain is an extravagant failing exercise in caring for the sick.
[a pennie for your thoughts?]
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there are a number of vids on the subject..dr phillipa whitord, prof allyson pollock take your pick…here’s one by dr lucy reynolds http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYakMiKwoak
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America where 40% of the population can’t access the health care that they need, that costs double what it costs per head here.
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very true Mervyn and they wonder why countries are divided by the haves and have nots.
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ive made a fortune out of this keeps me in rent boys you know.
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I agree with Peter – NOT.
You can’t just introduce a wild allegation with “if” and them proceed on the assumption that it is a fact. As in, IF privatisation led to a lowering of wages, demoralisation of staff and a worsening standard of care, who is bothered if some wealthy Tories make a nice buck out of it?
There is always a vague presumption that in a privatised system which fails, profits won’t be made, but we have only to look at the banking system and railways to understand why “privatisation” of services which ought to be publically owned and run because they are too important to fail, leads to a “heads I profit, tails the taxpayer bails me out”, security blanket for the super-rich.
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Ok Peter…
I have worked within the NHS( awhile back)….and the community.(on a lowly level) 🙂
Whether they are privatised or not does not change the fact that in my view (dam those hackles) there are so few people who actually give a shit about giving care and I mean ‘care’. I have spoken to doctors,carers and nurses who are lost in terms of motivation ,solidarity and actual ‘spirit.’ They seem to mechanically do their jobs in order to comply with some meagre standard. I do not mean all I might add. However, the ones who have ‘compassion’ and I do not mean a fleeting compassion are so put down because as my dear old Dad would have said ‘they are kicking shit up a hill’
We have lost something in this materialistic society and I am afraid to say it has something to do with the calibre of ‘the human’ The gene pool has some what deteriorated since the ‘wars.’ Maybe that is a contentious issue…..maybe we all need to be is kinder and that means to ourselves. However self examination is currently not very fashionable. I do not see much change ahead what ever label you stick on it 😦
I am not a cynic though 🙂
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I might add Peter…
That I get to see an awful lot when working in ‘ lowly’ positions.
Vive la Revolution! 🙂
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Pennie – “The gene pool has some what deteriorated since the ‘wars.’ Maybe that is a contentious issue…”
Contentious? You’re not kidding!!! Would you care to explain?
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P.S. To clarify – The gene pool of a closed population remains constant (random mutations aside). Therefore substantial changes to a gene pool are almost invariably the result of immigration into that population. Is immigration what you mean by “deteriorated since the wars”?
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NHS privatisation is going to happen whether there’s a Tory or Labour government next, though perhaps a little faster under the former. So what can anyone do about it? The truth is that if most people don’t really give a shit about the future of their society then healthcare will become like the USA, exactly as Mervyn Hyde said.
The people of Scotland and England seem to have a substantial difference in attitude about what society should be for…
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“If privatisation ushers in a more competitive and a better standard of care…”
Yes, a better standard of care for some people, and a worse standard of care for others, and a REDUCTION in the average standard of care, because a huge proportion of the money received from patients goes to profits for insurance companies instead of to healthcare.
Would you like to guess what is the deciding factor which dictates the standard of your care? I’ll give you a clue… it starts with M and ends with Y.
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Silly boy!
…I meant the gene pool of altruism……you are so sweet. 🙂
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And there lies your problem!
I will tell you a secret FF and you might not like to hear it……it does not!
That is Fear telling you ‘crap’…..
So ,how about joining the CAMPAIGN FOR DIGNITY IN DYING…….:-)
Other than that be a temperate man…….the gods smile down upon you as I do.
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Errrrr… the same argument applies. What makes you think that the population has become less altruistic since the wars, and that it’s caused by genetics? The only thing which has substantially changed the gene pool in that time is immigration.
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Sorry Pennie – I say you are wrong, it’s not crap. In a privatised health system then the standard of care you receive IS dictated by how much money you have. Would YOU prefer to be a poor person with health problems in the USA or in the UK?
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Interesting theory about gene pool since the wars. I have a personal theory that when your enemy cannot defeat you any other way, they will be born to you. Explain why there are so many fascists about. Reassuring that others have noticed.
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“I have a personal theory that when your enemy cannot defeat you any other way, they will be born to you.”
How would they do that? By some supernatural method of artificial insemination perhaps?
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FF
How is your health, mentally and physically?
I have often compared the physical body to a machine. Do you oil your parts?
No NHS for me. I look after my body and mind.
Somehow you always seem to be frothing at the mouth at the drop of a hat!
Please stop fighting me and the world.
Why the anger and self importance?
Remember….
Death is our eternal companion, it is always to our left at an arms length. How can anyone feel so angry and so important when we know that death is stalking us?
Ayahuasca for you my friend and lots of it! 🙂
Rrrraaaaaa!
And do not kid me about your concern for society!
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“Do you oil your parts?”
That’s rather a personal question isn’t it?
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I’m not fighting you, I’m interested in opinions which at first seem strange, so I’ll try again……
What makes you think that the population has become less altruistic since the wars, and that it’s caused by genetics?
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P.S. “And do not kid me about your concern for society!” – Does that mean you think I have no concern for society? Why do you think that? Those are not rhetorical questions…
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The only thing which has substantially changed the gene pool in that time is immigration.
Not true it was the election of Mrs Thatcher!
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@FinkFurst – I admit it is a bit strange – your enemy being born to you. I expect it’s because I read so much SF. I noticed in the eighties there seemed to be a lot of young people around who seemed to embody the values, rather the lack of them, which characterised the Nazis, that the sane world thought were a good idea fighting. I wondered what their parents/grandparents, who might have fought fascism thought of them. Then the thought occurred, when your enemy cannot defeat you any other way, they are born to you. You’re ahead of me. I didn’t think how it might be done, but if there was a way to do it they are exactly the people who would.
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That’s amazing! How do you think Thatcher changed the gene pool?
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Until you can think of a way that the Nazis managed to secretly inseminate countless women then I will put your theory into the “complete nutcase” category!
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People adopted a different mindset, from the sober socialist to the privatized punk once social housing and the public utilities were up for grabs.
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Errmmmm… how did that change people’s genes? You get your genes from your parents, not from the government you fool!
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I am well aware where genes come from, but you will have also have heard of the nature/nurture aspect that can change the mindset of people irrespective of what their gene pool is.
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HA HA HA! So now it’s the mindset Thatcher changed, not the gene pool!
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I did not say it was the gene pool, try one of your sock puppets!
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Errrmmmm… are you having trouble reading your own posts?
FF: The only thing which has substantially changed the gene pool in that time is immigration.
Ms Fawkes: Not true it was the election of Mrs Thatcher!
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Irrespective of what your gene pool is, it has no relevence to how society is engineered and manipulated by the establishment.
Those selfish enough to sell their family members down the river by following a capitalist ethos as opposed to a caring socialist agenda surely cannot be from the same gene pools, making genetics a defunct argument anyway in any social policy decision.
The upper class marry their money to their intended partners money or potential for making money as a well placed politician in a safe seat , city job or as a ceo.
Any straying from this mindset are ostracized by their own family – nice gene pool, more a cesspit.
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You plainly don’t have a clue what you’re talking about – A person doesn’t have a gene pool you idiot!
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People have a genetic code, made from a mixture of both parents, but it does not influence the way people think!
Only intimidation or favouritism by the elite in equal measure can do that to some people it seems.
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