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(not satire – it’s the UK today)
According to a new opinion poll, Scottish voters are set to vote yes to independence in the forthcoming referendum, YES 51% NO 49%.
Of course this is only one poll, but the trend is very clear.
Only a month ago, the polls were showing a 22 point lead for the NO campaign, YES 39% NO 61%.
Will David Cameron go down in history as the man who broke up the United Kingdom?
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crashraindog said:
He broke up the NHS bit by bit so why not the UK?
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xraypat said:
Great news! Can’t wait to see Cameron’s tears!
And….of course….separation from the wretched Tories
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overburdenddonkey said:
this was today http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DaQVxbB-2U before the new poll. though we knew it was coming…12points in 2+ weeks…the no camp have campaigned very strongly for a yes vote…milliband is threatening borders now, guardian say they will offer federalism…result the yes vote goes up, they have completely misjudged the massive YES grassroots movement, they’ve no answers to it..: the place is buzzing…
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stuartbramhall said:
We are watching this referendum closely in New Zealand and are very excited about the new polling for the yes vote.
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overburdenddonkey said:
stuart
very interested in any links to #indyref news stories from NZ… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxqeZwhTSDg
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nuggy said:
rupert murdoch supports Independence so it cant be a good idea.
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helenatorry said:
I really do think the media believes the people have had no part to play in the independence debate; that the fight is between the political behemoths of Salmond & Darkling. Scotland v’s England, Wallace v’s Edward I etc?
Nothing could be further from the truth. What you see & hear in the media is far from reality. The debate would never have happened without the consent of the ordinary Scottish people. Many of us have never voted before!
I am engaged – not because of the SNP or Alex Salmond. I am engaged because I talk to my neighbours, my friends – even strangers on a train!
The SNP is becoming increasingly irrelevant in the independence debate. It is happening in pubs, clubs – even in my local chip shop. I saw & heard an amazing good natured debate on the number 3 bus in Aberdeen last week.
The Labour Party has no relevance whatsoever. The more they bully – The more they enable independence. Keep it up!
One thing the politicians fail to grasp – The debate has passed them by. They have no influence over it anymore & haven’t for weeks.
We have no truck with crude nationalism, the discussion is more than that! It is about democracy & self determination itself. It may be something the rest of rUK will begin to see as relevent also!
No Fear! Our Time Is Now!
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overburdenddonkey said:
helen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFPteFulAD0
there is now a “weebluebook”, audiobook…
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helenatorry said:
This is people’s politics. Something the politicians did not want or expect!
Once the jack is out of the box, the establishment will not be able to push it back in.
Even in the smallest posibility the NO vote wins, the establishment loses.
Because the demands will be great.
The politicians have lost this debate because they bullied & patronised the people & we have learned something from this! trust the citizens not the bullying politicians. They open their mouthes & we see snakes!
I see a braw future. Not rose coloured, not easy, not smooth – but ours! Wouldn’t you give everything to have even a small part of this political journey?
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DaveBrigg said:
Can the North of England have independence from Westminster now?
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wildthing666 said:
Cameron will go down as the PM who not only broke up the UK but the PM that also held power longer than he was meant too, by the Scots voting for independence.
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John Ray said:
YES!
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oldpob said:
Speaking as an erstwhile Labour voter of 30 years ( now Green Party member) I have to say I don’t think Cameron can take all the credit.
One thing that has stood out above all else during the last 12 months is the Scots’ high level of social and political literacy, and their o’erwheaning National belief in Social Justice. During the campaign many voters have been waiting for a sign, not just that Labour could win the next election, but that things would be different if they did.
It is, in fact, the slavish adherence of Messrs Miliband, Balls, et al, to the neo-liberal ‘zero-deficit austerity agenda ‘ that has persuaded the floating voters that Scotland will be a better place if they go it alone.
Cameron and his cronies could never have saved the Union. Ed Miliband could have (and secured the 2015 election at the same time). He didn’t.
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oldpob said:
Reblogged this on When Viewed From Below… and commented:
Cameron will be blamed for the break-up of the Union. I, personally, blame the Labour Party…
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Mervyn Hyde (@mjh0421) said:
I would like to reiterate everything you say, I also have been an active member of the Labour Party(35 years) only to find that they are not Labour.
As you rightly point out New Labour could have saved the no vote had the Scots had any faith in them, the bullying stance shown by Alistair Darling showed the weakness of his case not it’s strengths, he could have turned the whole debate round but continued with the Neo-Liberal format that people now recognise and the party apologists can’t.
The Scots Nats are irrelevant, they are just the same Neo-Liberals as New Labour, Tories and Libdems, but the Scottish people now have unique opportunity to create a government of their making that uses the resources of the state for the benefit of people, that after all is what a democracy is all about and the real threat to to the corporate dictatorship we presently live under.
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oldpob said:
(at the risk of sounding like a love-in…) adroitly put, Mervyn.
I suspect very many in the ‘yes’ camp share your (and my) distain of Mr Salmond et cie but are brought to this juncture despite, rather than because of, the Nationalists.
The bitter irony for the Scots is, I fear, that the intellectual poverty of the SNP,displayed in their subservience to fiscal union, could well see them at the mercy of a perpetual Tory government and it’s reductionist fiscal policy without any ability to influence Westminster.
It is to be hoped that independence for Scotland will see an upsurge of grass-roots activism that will reclaim politics (of all political hues) for the people.
As for the rest of us left behind we should, I think, take heart from the first demonstration of true democracy in action since 1945.
The exercising of the will of the Scottish people, despite the hyperbole, bullying and misinformation of Westminster and its media machine, should be a wake up call to us all.
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overburdenddonkey said:
oldpob
there’s a grassroots upsurge alright…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rf_PXB1OfqU
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guy fawkes said:
we don’t have oil as far as I know!
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