(not satire – I think)
I’m not particularly trying to fly the Ed Miliband flag here, but is it only me thinks the Labour leader’s opponents are getting a bit desperate?
Of course, it’s true Ed’s approval figures are extremely negative, but it’s just a matter of degree as all the main party leaders have negative approval figures.
And with just 10 months to go before the next election, all the smears against the Labour leader in the right-wing press have had no effect on Labour’s polling – which has been consistently ahead of the Tories for years now.
Mind you – it’s always mystified me why looking like Wallace from Wallace and Gromit is supposed to be such a bad thing.
After all, who would you rather vote for – Wallace or Flashman?
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Reblogged this on Vox Political and commented:
Ed Miliband himself provides a few more of these ‘reasons’, in an interview with the Huffington Post: “First of all, they said I was ‘Red Ed’. Then they said I was weak. Then they said it’s back to the 1970s. They’re desperate to find a point of criticism. I genuinely believe one of the reasons we are in a position to win the next election is because actually, in the end, the British public do judge people on their ideas and what they stand for and what difference they’ll make to the country.”
The article goes on to describe him as ‘Steady Eddie’.
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Its not his opponents on the right or Tory. This opposition and revulsion and rejectionof him comes from Labour’s heartland and the working class traditional Labour base.
To be so stupid, ignorant and not know the basic opposition to the Sun in Liverpool and north and working class just shows his incredible ignorance of his own base.
Bacon butties and white van man tabloids show the way Labour sees its voters. Will be holding a baby cow next, and watch out, keep your babies indoors, because they will be kissing them.
Ed is an idiot not fit to govern, and his advisers and PR must have contempt on all British people to keep using this crap and think it will impress instead of revolt.
YUCK! URGH!
Already not got my vote.
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Have the Tories ever looked at some of the photos of themselves? I’ve see a few in whichthey look like 21st centaury version of Dickens charaters; Osbourne looks like Uriah Heap, Cameron looks like Uncle Pumblechook ans the loathsome IDS a cross between Fagin and Ebenezer Scrooge.
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Sorry Tom, but this blogpost is complete and utter crap. MANY more reasons for not voting Labour have been voiced by its opponents and others. If you can’t think of any then you’re fool, or you’re so biased that you’re not worth listening to.
…and perhaps I should remind you that in the UK democratic system we DO NOT vote for a Prime Minister. I thought that as a political commentator you might have noticed that by now.
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Many will vote for their own local man and the Party even when the party is betraying them and running roughshod over them, their MP and unions and backers due to the distant London set. I wont vote for any as no one to vote for, as all support rape of women, paedophilia and discrimination and abuse of disabled and discriminate abuse, threaten and harm local businesses for sake of own power they can go take a run and jump.
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Or maybe no one thinks that mattes, as I am told. Need to put away abuse of women, children and disabled and mafia like tactics with local business for sake of party. YEP? NO!!
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(sigh) some of you are missing the point.
I’m usually loathe to explain blogposts but here goes anyway.
This is not really about EM at all and certainly not about how many bullet points I can personally think of to criticise him. What a boring blogpost that would be.
It’s about how out-of-touch his opponents and the mainstream press are and how low they think the level of their political debate needs to be to influence public opinion.
Read the blogpost again.
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…and I think you’re missing my point, which is that YOU are getting a bit desperate, because saying that the mainstream press isn’t conducting a rational debate is a statement of the bleeding obvious!
…how about you doing what they won’t? (with a little piss-taking thrown in!)
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I want to have a rational debate about why the only debate in the press and at the top level of politics in the UK is a debate about how well or badly someone eats a bacon sandwich.
Now that’s a debate that desperately needs to be had.
I’ve got a great idea FinkFurst. You seem to like to tell me how to write blogposts. Why not start one yourself?
You never know – one day you might get to be so successful that you too get some know-it-all telling you how to write your blogposts.
I recommend wordpress:
https://wordpress.com/
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Reblogged this on Britain Isn't Eating.
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Here here – saved me the effort of saying exactly the same thing.
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Surely reblogged on “Britain isn’t eating bacon sandwiches” 🙂
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Eating bacon sandwiches obviously ISN’T the only debate taking place in the press, it’s just the one that you chose to highlight. Doing that for laughs is fine, but only if it’s actually funny. However, the original photo really WAS funny!
You’ve said exactly the same thing to me about blogs at least twice before, and I’ll give you exactly the same answer YET again – how do you know that I don’t?
Here’s another bit of advice which you probably won’t take… dismissing criticism without argument gets you nowhere, whilst countering it intelligently might teach the critic something, and possibly also teach you something in the process of thinking about your argument.
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If you have a blog – put your blog where your mouth is and post a link to it.
If not – start one at once!
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Should I take that to mean that you don’t want to discuss any real issues on this blog?
How about… “I want to have a rational debate about why the only debate in the press and at the top level of politics in the UK is a debate about how well or badly someone eats a bacon sandwich”. I disagree emphatically with that assertion… So, will you have a rational debate with me about that?
Also, it’s it strange that you don’t get upset when I pay you a compliment. If my judgement is so bad, then surely those must be wrong too…
[Upset? I was always pretty sure I didn’t give a flying f*ck what you think. But just let me check.
No, I’m right. I don’t.] -TOM
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Tom – Treating the ‘bacon sandwich’ photo as anything other that a brief joke IS tabloid mentality, not a counter to tabloid mentality. Do you agree?
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“I was always pretty sure I didn’t give a flying f*ck what you think. But just let me check. No, I’m right. I don’t.”
Are you sure? If so, why did you like one of my previous posts? Are you ready to get real yet?
What difference would it make if ‘Tom Pride’ and ‘FinkFurst’ had a debate on this WordPress blog or on a different WordPress blog? Or is the REAL point that you don’t actually want to have a debate? It’s no problem if you don’t, but please just be honest!
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i actually like Midland its just his party im not that keen on.
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the tory/ukip press want to pretend the labour are still the socialist enemy, that’s why…
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Agreed!
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I assume you mean Ed Miliband – What is it about him that you like? I agree about the party, but then I’m not keen on ANY of the parties.
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FinkFurst, this aint your BlogSpot, so if you don’t like it, don’t f in read it…..talk about throwing your toys in the corner, get a grip for f sake….yuh nutter, haha
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Doh…
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Labour lost my vote in 2013.
Why?
Because they did not fight the Pension Bill and even worse to come with the Flat Rate Pension that leaves numberless millions more women into the future with no state pension, so no food money into the future, which includes no benefit from all the benefit cuts, meaning many agencies are not giving vouchers to food banks, themselves only 3 vouchers in a year.
See how much you lose from your state pension or lose it altogether:
https://you.38degrees.org.uk/petitions/state-pension-at-60-now
The women / grey vote, especially between 59 and 66 years, is ignored by all parties, including Labour.
The majority of the women losing state pension payout are within the working poor, and have little or no other income.
As there are 23 milloion over 50s in the UK, why is Labour content to be a minority government, from the lowest voter turnout in UK history coming in 2015.
Women MPs kept the pension payout at 60 from 2012.
All MPs take the lost state pension to women and men as an 11 per cent pay rise in 2015.
Whilst women are left with nothing, absolutely nothing.
The young will not vote, neither will they sign on to the voter registration by the millions.
Remember your own Labour Left (the actual socialists in Labour) have reminded Labour that over 35 million voters did not vote Labour in last two general elections.
You can get your state pension payout and remain in work, which would help the working poor who go to food banks, that include those 60 and over who suffer along with all ages.
Pensioners are on the lowest state pension in the developed world, barely above benefit. If they get benefit, both their benefit and works pension (far below benefit level for many women) are both taxed despite together they are far below the basic tax allowance.
These are millions of voters ignored by Labour’s Ed Miliband, but even by Ed Balls who still believes the state pension is a benefit and therefore part of welfare austerity cuts.
The state pension fund is the ring fenced National Insurance Fund that has been full for decades, not needing a top up from tax.
The state pension fund is full, because it cannot be emptied to use as general expenditure by government as it is not a tax.
The state pension is a contribution based pension by 12 per cent deductions of NI plus your boss’s NI deductions over a lifetime in work.
And the poorest pay a 90 per cent tax rate from the 75 per cent of personal taxation that comes from stealth taxes, when also factor in petrol, cigarette and alcohol duty, bearing in mind the poor and near poor of the squeezed middle spend all of their money on the basics of life, as they cannot hoard money as the rich can.
It is not the right wing press going after Labour, by the way.
It is the socialists.
See the banned TUSC video on my personal website:
http://www.theswansnewparty.org.uk
All Labour has to do to take away the socialists’ thunder is:
– Revoke Welfare Reform Act
– Get rid of all the benefits admin – DWP and private firms – and just pay benefit til the below can come in the following tax year after winning general election
– Replace all benefit and benefits admin with a funding neutral universal non-means tested citizen wage, paid for and contributed by all from the stealth taxes we all pay.
– Pay state pension at 60 to women lost since 2013
– Equalise men’s state pension at 60 from 2015
– Pay back lost state pension payout to women who turned 60 in 2013 and 2014, with tax free lump sum
– Pay monthly from January 2015 state pension to women 60 from 2013
– So in 2015, only a small tax free back-dated sum between January and winning election month
– Return in 2015-2016 tax year the lost tax band for those turning 65 from 2013, but put in down to men and women turning 60 from that tax year
This solves the living wage for all ages, pensioner poverty, starvation needing food banks, and fuel poverty that is against the wellbeing of all ages, and kills the elderly each winter.
Otherwise, the over 13 million who struggle each day to make ends meet, might just vote TUSC / Left Unity Party, as they have no reason to vote Labour.
I fear the future. No benefit, no state pension, not listed on the unemployment statistics, unable to work anyway as chronic sick AND disabled no benefit, works pension that is about the average for women in public sector about a quarter of the average wage, and lost council tax benefit.
With no benefit, many agencies are now not giving out vouchers to food banks.
What does Labour offer me?
Nothing but starvation just like the Tories.
After me voting Labour all my life, as did the generations in my family before me.
The socialists need to get a grip in Labour.
If they do, Labour will win big in 2015 and not just be a few paltry points ahead of the Tories in the polls when campaigning for next year’s election has begun.
This was written by an ex Labour party member and GMB union official:
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/danhodges/100277360/labour-is-already-starting-to-drift-into-the-post-miliband-era/
I will not vote for Miliband and Balls’ Labour.
I may waste a vote but would vote TUSC, as they said the truth of the state pension – is not some generous gift from government to be withdrawn at whim,
but deferred wages from my youth.
You bet at 12 per cent a year for a third of a century. For a lot of my age group, we have worked half a century.
How does this effect you, the young, who have been led to despise the old as better off than you (LOL)?
With the loss of state pension, the high street has died, taking with it youth jobs in the town centre, which is where the pensioners shop.
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Mr Blah – A perceptive and well-crafted argument. Congratulations.
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i liked the way he attacked the press not many leaders before him would of risked doing that.
i liked the way he stood up for his dad rather trying to distance himself from his dads beliefs..
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FF, obviously no argument intended, just letting you know, your boring….
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Blah – Do you find debate boring? Is that why you don’t rise to the challenge?
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I agree with you about standing up for his father, but a potential leader of a country needs so much more than that.
Attacked the press? Not really. In my opinion he has not done anything effective to help reform media responsibility, and he has courted Murdoch just like all the others. He didn’t accidentally pose with the Sun!
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I might just have some respect for Miliband if he starts condemning the war criminals in his party, not taking advice from them!
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“Mind you – it’s always mystified me why looking like Wallace from Wallace and Gromit is supposed to be such a bad thing.”
Because there’s nothing between his ears but Plasticine!
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…the only difference is that Wallace isn’t controlled by strings.
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Debate no, you yes…..I find you rather tedious…seriously, take note, and have a think…you have an over inflated ego…I have a ‘choice’ as to who I debate with, I find you boring, end of…rattle on with your unimportance, someone will find it worthy, just not me, we are all different after all…chill, smile and be happy, your only here once (unless you can prove otherwise of course, haha)
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Of course you have a choice, but how do you know that debate with me would be boring, when you haven’t even tried? Go on… give it a try. Don’t worry, I’m smiling and happy!
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Ed Miliband is simply not Labour, inner critics within the Labour party are themselves making noises. Cruddas being the latest, whom I have no time for.
Ed has had four wasted years to say he will reverse everything these Tories have done, he could have admitted that the deficit was a lie and a means to privatise state assets, the reason he has not is because he will pursue exactly the same agenda as the Tories. Only as Blair did at a much slower sneakier pace.
It really is time for the followers of Labour to stop burying their heads in the sand and start telling the leadership that the game is up.
If we want and NHS and proper public services as well as real jobs with real wages then that starts in the public sector.
Don’t expect Ed to agree, he will wait for Murdoch to tell him what to do, he has had meetings with them already, wake up Labour.
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“…he will pursue exactly the same agenda as the Tories. Only as Blair did at a much slower sneakier pace.”
“Don’t expect Ed to agree, he will wait for Murdoch to tell him what to do, he has had meetings with them already, wake up Labour.”
These are exactly spot on! The question is what to do if you want a fairer society, and Labour just isn’t interested in that any more. If achieving power means the ability to start wars, then I want nothing to do with it…
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Have you got a suggestion for Eric Pickles – pie-eater extraordinaire?
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You make a good point that our system does not allow direct election of the Prime Minister. In practise however, many people do vote based on whomever leads their party of choice, rather than who their local candidate actually is
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During the firefighter’s strike in 2002, “vandals” removed the “R” and “M” from the sign at the ODPM’s office inhabited by John Prescott making it the Office of the Deputy P i e Minister. Made me laugh at the time anyway.
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True… as evidenced by the fact that some people seemed to think it was undemocratic when Brown replaced Blair without a general election.
Personally I was just happy that Blair was gone from political influence… and how wrong I was!!!
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Tom – I was just wondering what’s the point of this silly “just let me check” charade, as if you don’t know your own mind without asking (though that may actually be the case). If you think I’m talking crap then please say so – and explaining why might help with your credibility…
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Nuggy – That’s very sad, because it’s a moral judgement which Miliband has very deliberately made, and apparently you agree with it.
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You missed number 5 stabbed his Brother in the back.
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