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According to that hotbed of left-wing, anti-establishment conspiracy theories, the Daily Telegraph reckons Jimmy Savile would have been vetted by MI5 as far back as the 1960s – and Bond, Moneypenny, M etc would have continued vetting him until at least the 1980s.
Well, obviously the Telegraph doesn’t now say as much – because that might prove to be a tad too uncomfortable for its pro-establishment readership – but it did reveal in an article it printed way back in 2006 that staff at the BBC, including reporters, newsreaders and presenters, were all vetted by MI5.
That clearly would have included the BBC’s star presenter Jimmy Savile.
Which rather begs this question:
Were the nation’s finest spies so incompetent they didn’t discover what apparently everyone else knew about Savile’s fondness for abusing children, or did they consider abusing children not a good enough reason to bar someone from employment?
I think we should be told. Don’t you?
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This is not an issue. The security service has to focus on whether someone is a security risk. They clearly can’t start moral or legal judgement (would you want them to be ‘establishment moral arbiters’?) and if they start sharing information with tax offices, the police etc for non-security reasons then their role will come out and their secrecy be undermined.
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yet there were ways to get him quietly it is a damed shame he got away from this world scot free for his crimes my only hope is that his victims find piece in all that happened to them has hurting others is a crime
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considering just how many politicians are/were involved in Saviles paedophile rings, alarm bells as to ‘security risks’ are still ringing and being silenced by govt spy agencies.
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Why is it a surprise to anyone that the UK security services are apparently incompetent???
OR…… is it NOT incompetence at all, but something far more serious, like being a secret and compliant arm of a fundamentally undemocratic government, about which the electorate knows nothing?
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Reblogged this on Beastrabban’s Weblog and commented:
I’m not actually surprised by the Telegraph’s statement that everyone at the BBC was vetted by MI5. The Observer claimed in the 1980s that MI5 even had an office at the BBC, which kept tabs on the staff and made sure that the programmes were all ideologically sound and did not promote anti-establishment propaganda.
But their decision not to call attention to Savile’s vicious and predatory paedophilia is highly remarkable and does require explanation. The world’s spy agencies since forever and a day have been using blackmail to force each other’s citizens into betraying their countries. Before the legalisation of homosexuality in 1969, gays would have been an easy target for such blackmail. Savile’s own deviant sexuality, preying on children and the bodies of the dead, was far more shocking and outrageous than anything involving consenting adults and would have made a prime candidate for Soviet blackmail, had they known about it or cared to exploit it. Yet apparently they did not consider it an issue, possibly because he had the full confidence on Maggie.
Their failure to act on Savile’s sexuality also raises important questions about their role in civilian police work. After the collapse of Communism, MI5 tried to expand the range of its services into criminal policing. The agency attempted to promote itself as a providing valuable expertise in criminal intelligence gathering. However, in the case of Savile it clearly failed to uphold the law, as the DJ’s crimes are, apart from revolting and utterly immoral, clearly illegal. MI5, however, let these activities past. This thus casts considerable doubt on its willingness or ability to uphold the law impartially, as required of an effective police force.
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I’d like to see you stand up, and share your thoughts (in the same room) with the people who Savile abused….you may find, it certainly is an issue, M Mellon!?
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Of course, we now know that Savile was a consummate liar (as most psychopaths are) so he could well have bluffed his way through the Vetting process, particularly since he would probably have only undergone the basic Security Check, rather than the full Developed Vetting which is usually carried out by a retired Special Branch officer
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very strange the timing of the release of this report just after andy coulsons convictions.
am i just being paranoid.
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mi5 only veted people for leftwing sympathy as savile dident have any he easily passed there vetting.
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Maybe it never happened…Occam’s Razor and all that. He’s dead and NOBODY can prove anything.
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Mr Mellon – Why do you say that the security services clearly can’t make legal judgements? Are you saying that the security services are not subject to the law?
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No nuggy, you’re wrong about that, and you missed the fundamental point too. The security services would have investigated far more than just his political sympathies, so they must have deliberately chosen to ignore the paedophilia. It’s THAT choice which is a matter of public interest. What other crimes are they ignoring RIGHT NOW?
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Intelligence service, that’s a joke. They are either incompetent or corrupt but more than likely both.
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He had friends in very high places…. What about that card from a certain royal saying the country owed him a huge debt…. not just the charity fundraising methinks or the 7 christmases he spent with a certain pm…
He would have been vetted again and again and for some very strange reason which is being quietly brushed under the carpet left to go on his way.
Oh, and another nice little bit about edwina currie who gave him the broadmoor keys. Just what does she have to say in her defence and what did she really know and how was he vetted for that??? A very quagmire…
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Reblogged this on Britain Isn't Eating.
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We should have been told more about Jimmy Savile’s relationship with Peter Sutcliffe, who was interned in Broadmoor for killing prostitutes in Leeds and while there befriended Savile. Jimmy Savile had a flat in Leeds and all access keys to Broadmoor Secure Hospital for psychopathic criminals. Jimmy Savile was also known to Leeds Police for using Yorkshire prostitutes. 2 of Sutcliffe’s victims were discovered close by to Savile’s flat. There’s no smoke without fire, they say, or in this case corpses, with bite marks on them…. You don’t think it was Luis Suarez, surely?
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Exactly . If it doesn’t concern national security why would MI5 care ? The fact is that anyone who did know about Savile wasn’t going to rock the boat and jeopardise their own careers . It was easier to keep quiet about a social taboo .
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Lloyd – Because EVERYBODY, and especially people who are paid from the public purse, are bound by the rule of law… or should be!
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M15 knew about the paedophilia going on at Kincorra Boys Home and just watched hoping to get material they could use to blackmail N. Irish politicians with. I have seen the argument that the reason for the determined cover-up of British politicians paedophilia is if those involved were exposed M15 would lose their leverage over them.
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…and what do you think is the solution? I think it lies in more open access to the conduct of the security services, through the courts if necessary.
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Fink first, just in case M15 are pulling the strings of our politicians it is essential for starters that any paedophiles be exposed in Parliament – and follow that up with total exposure for any high ups in the police or judiciary, for the same reason. Just in case M15 are really ruling the country – after all, they are puppet masters. Then we might have a chance to get some oversight on the Security Services along the lines that they are not promoting things like paedophilia in order to get leverage over influential people. Agree?
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prayerwarriorpsychicnot – That depends on how you think it might be achieved. I think it will ONLY happen when complicit politicians and security services personnel are put on trial and given substantial prison sentences if found guilty… so in future people in the same positions of responsibility know that they WILL be subject to the rule of law, and they will not be protected by others.
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Fink first – corrupt politicians put on trial – yes, you are right. I don’t see a zealous Leveson-type enquiry happening on this issue in the present situation. Which definitely suggests they are being protected. And there is institutional complicity with paedophilia.
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Agreed. Most enquiries so far have been expensive and useless, though I still have hopes for the Chilcot enquiry. What we need is prosecutions in a court where the truth cannot be hidden behind anonymity or secret proceedings, so that probably means the International Criminal Court.
What we need is that the next time a politician or security services person may be complicit in torture, paedophilia, etc., then they know they will go to jail if they don’t do their best to stop it happening immediately.
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Maybe because if they took some action with one paedophile in a position of power and influence, they would have to take action with others? We know that paedophiles tend not to be solitary, but are often are in co-operative, well organised groups.
We now know about Cyril Smith and some evidence of paedophile groups within upper political circles is being hinted at, so who else… perhaps also within MI5?
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Fink first – that’s what should happen, but I’m not holding my breath.
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I’m not holding my breath either, but maybe I have a little more hope than you! Maybe the truth will take many years to come out, but eventually it will. Information is getting harder and harder to conceal, a fact which I think many politicians and others haven’t yet really understood. For instance, I think most of the misconduct during the Blair administration WILL be laid bare within his lifetime…
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They keep trying to bury things under the carpet, so we’ll just have to keep trying to pull the carpet up. 🙂
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However, the Sunday Express has related news: Secret Service infiltrated paedophile group to ‘blackmail establishment’:
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/485529/Special-Branch-funded-Paedophile-Information-Exchange-says-Home-Office-whistleblower
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