(not satire – it’s the Tories!)
Times columnist and Tory activist Tim Montgomerie has been called “one of the most influential Tories outside the cabinet“.
So it’s interesting that in a tweet today, Montgomerie branded the charity Oxfam “socialist” for wanting to eradicate poverty:
It seems the Tories have come a long, long way from the days in 2006 when the then leader of the opposition David Cameron pledged a Tory government would seek to eradicate even relative poverty in the UK:
Tories claim ‘big change’ on poor
Looks like the Nasty Party is well and truly back!
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beastrabban said:
Reblogged this on Beastrabban’s Weblog and commented:
This, unfortunately, isn’t new. One of the leading lights of the Freedom Association, formerly the National Association For Freedom, presented a petition to parliament in the 1980s loudly denouncing Oxfam and a number of other leading charities as ‘Socialist’. I also remember reading an article in Lobster in the 1990s, in which it was claimed that the Belgian secret services were so Right-wing, that they were also investigating Oxfam as a Communist organisation. It’s also another example of the transatlantic influence in the Tories. A little while ago the extreme Republican/ Conservative blogs on the other side of the Atlantic were also attacking Western charities for supposedly keeping the world’s poor in their miserable condition through a preference for state solutions and western hand-outs. Now it’s being imported into Britain again. As for the Times being the paper ‘of record’, just remember that it was the Times’ that published the accusation of the Soviet defector and self-confessed liar, Oleg Gordievsky, that Michael Foot was a KGB agent called ‘Comrade Boot’. So, not quite the organ of quality journalism it believes it is.
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Oso Sabio said:
If Mr Montgomerie says ‘believe’ instead of ‘belief’, I’d have said that would be the first reason to ignore him. The Tories have never changed, and never will. They will just apply some more make-up from time to time!
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Mike Sivier said:
Reblogged this on Vox Political and commented:
Here’s Tim Montgomerie putting the smear strategy outed by the alittleecon blog into action.
Isn’t it fun to see someone point out how a Tory tactic works and then be able to spot it in action – straight away!
Thanks to Tom Pride for reaching the same place on a different trajectory.
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wrjones2012 said:
Did we really need any more proof that the Tories are scum?Lets bury them and all they stand for next year.
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sdbast said:
Reblogged this on sdbast.
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FinkFurst said:
Tom – Why do you seem to think it’s nasty to call somebody a socialist? I would take it as a compliment!
By the way, it’s not only the Tories. You seem to have forgotten that Labour banned official use of the term ‘socialism’ too. It has not been used in Labour party manifestos since 1992.
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FinkFurst said:
Mike – Why do you say it’s a “smear”? What do you think is wrong with being a socialist?
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Ulysses said:
Yeah i thought the same, being deemed “Socialist” is hardly an insult
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Mike Sivier said:
I don’t think there’s anything wrong with it – I happen to be one myself.
But the Tories (and, sadly, it seems New Labour) worked very hard to make “socialist” a dirty word and from the mid-1990s onwards, in the minds of most of the electorate, it seems they succeeded.
Look at the tone of the Montgomerie remark. He’s not using that word in a complimentary capacity.
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FinkFurst said:
Mike – Just because the mainstream parties and mainstream media think and talk in those terms, doesn’t mean you have to go along with it!
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wrjones2012 said:
Well FF,please don’t “fink” this is too much of a play on words from me.lol
However 2015 is coming and then indeed you will have to “fink” whether in fact you really want this shambles of a Tory led government to continue for another five years or not?Whether you want them to continue with their full frontal attack on those who have nothing?
The answers of course are quite simple or at least they should be!We have to go all out to bury the Tories and all they stand for.It is only Labour that can do this!
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FinkFurst said:
wrjones – No, it’s NOT only Labour! I live in Scotland, so your comments will (hopefully) be completely irrelevant to us. I feel sorry for the people in England who will have a permanent Conservative government, but that’s for you to try to change…… if you really want to.
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wrjones2012 said:
Well FF,this puts matters in a completely different perspective!
I will be having my say on the Scottish Referendum in a very rare for me blogpost nearer the event.My blogpost will not be aimed at those die in the wool Scottissh Nationalists.Quite frankly I have profound difficulties in arguing with those who state that water runs uphill!My blogpost though will be addressed at those who would normally think of themselves as “socialist”.
However I think you have perhaps unwittingly hit the nail on the head when you speak of a “permanent Conservative Government”!In the light of that prospect,though he and they will never as such admit to it;Do you know who is really hoping for a Yes vote in September?
The answer is of course David Cameron and the rest of the Tory gang!
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FinkFurst said:
WRJ – If you have something to say, then say it here and now, if you’re not afraid!
…and who is stating that water runs uphill?
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FinkFurst said:
…and you think I UNWITTINGLY hit the nail on the head when I spoke of a “permanent Conservative Government”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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FinkFurst said:
Tom, you didn’t answer the question – Why do you seem to think it’s nasty to call somebody a socialist?
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FinkFurst said:
wrjones – Aren’t you clever! (lol lol lol) You thought of a play on words involving the word “fink” all on your own. I wish I was as clever as you and I had thought of it for myself.
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wrjones2012 said:
Well FF,your a lot cleverer than I am for hopefully noting that my words comment was light hearted!
Ok then,if I have to spell it out,the “Scottish Nationalist” per se is of the type that will argue that water runs uphill!
Whilst I’m under no dillusions that my blogpost will sway matters one way or another,all will be revealed at an appropriate time!
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FinkFurst said:
“…the “Scottish Nationalist” per se is of the type that will argue that water runs uphill!”
Really? Is that how you think the collective individual commonly known as “The Scottish Nationalist” behaves? Do you have some examples, or is it just that your [sic] prejudiced against this ‘Scottish Nationalist’ person?
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wrjones2012 said:
In spite of everything I’m prejudiced against no one!I’ve never been one to “give a dog a bad name”!I’ve yet to meet a Scottish Nationalist in person,though I have engaged shall we say with them many times thanks to the internet!
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FinkFurst said:
“I’ve never been one to ‘give a dog a bad name'” – You just did!
I’m still waiting for your example of a ‘Scottish Nationalist’ argument which is like saying that water runs uphill…
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FinkFurst said:
“Whilst I’m under no dillusions [sic!!!!!] that my blogpost will sway matters one way or another,all will be revealed at an appropriate time!”
I’m sure there are countless people who are almost orgasming in anticipation of your future pearls of wisdom!
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wrjones2012 said:
You may well be kept waiting,at least until my blogpost!
In the meantime,as I’m always on the lookout for material for that blogpost,I’m interested in knowing why an apparent socialist should be arguing for a Yes vote in September?
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FinkFurst said:
“I’m interested in knowing why an apparent socialist should be arguing for a Yes vote in September?”
Are you trying to be funny, or are you an idiot?
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wrjones2012 said:
Well I’m trying to be neither.lol
Its a straightforward question?
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FinkFurst said:
Then you are amazingly stupid! … an independent Scotland will never elect a Tory government in the foreseeable future.
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wrjones2012 said:
Oh I don’t think so,I’ve never considered myself a Harry Potter type fantascist!Though I shouldn’t have mentioned J K Rowling.lol
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FinkFurst said:
No, of course YOU don’t think “your” [sic] stupid or a “fantascist” [sic]!
I’m STILL waiting for your example of a ‘Scottish Nationalist’ argument which is like saying that water runs uphill…
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wrjones2012 said:
Surely you realise I’m not as good a writer as J K Rowling.lol
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FinkFurst said:
I think I just about noticed! … but you managed to write “the “Scottish Nationalist” per se is of the type that will argue that water runs uphill!”
Are you willing to justify that, or should I just assume that you’re a bullsh*tting d*ckhead?
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wrjones2012 said:
I think your abuse says far more about you than it does about me!
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FinkFurst said:
It’s not abuse, it’s just my assumption about your intellectual capabilities. Maybe it’s completely wrong…… but I don’t think so!
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wrjones2012 said:
Do you know I really think you take all these matters a little too seriously.I think you should loosen up a tad!
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FinkFurst said:
a) “Bullshitting” – You say things which you are unable or unwilling to justify… PROVEN!
b) “Dickhead” – There’s not much more going on inside your head than in the average penis. Not proven yet, mostly because of a)!
I’m able and willing to justify EVERYTHING I say, or I will happily admit that I’m wrong, so why can’t you? Is it perhaps because you actually don’t have a clue what you’re talking about?… (Tom, that goes for you too!)
I’m STILL waiting for your example of a ‘Scottish Nationalist’ argument which is like saying that water runs uphill…
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wrjones2012 said:
All that I can say is there was a lot of truth in what J K Rowling said on the news about many in the Yes Camp and their intolerance towards others point of view.Its quite apparent that this also includes you!
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FinkFurst said:
Yes, I completely admit that I’m intolerant of people like you who are unable or unwilling to explain themselves. What do you think you’re writing on here for? If you think it’s just to make funny or smart remarks then you’ve failed. If you think it’s to have a serious debate then you’ve also failed!
I’m not intolerant of your point of view, because you haven’t given one yet!!!!!
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wrjones2012 said:
The thing is you know I really like a trier.Its just as well I have plenty of patience and tolerance!
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FinkFurst said:
Patience and tolerance, but no brains or integrity… because I’m STILL waiting for your example of a ‘Scottish Nationalist’ argument which is like saying that water runs uphill…
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wrjones2012 said:
So Rowling was right then it seems.She must know you!
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FinkFurst said:
I have opinions, and I think about them and I care about them. You do not. I have tried very hard, but you’re not worth talking to. You are pathetic.
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wrjones2012 said:
Oh dear.After remarks like that I won’t sleep tonight.lol
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FinkFurst said:
OK Mr Jones – if you “really like a trier” then I’ll try again. We can go back to square one… You initially replied about a political point, but then refused to discuss it further. Did you want to have a discussion, or did you reply for some other reason?
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gavomatic57 said:
Reblogged this on There Be Beasties! and commented:
Lets face it, Oxfam wouldn’t need to exist without Tory ideologies. They are polar opposites in terms of humanity –Oxfam are there to help those that can’t help themselves, Tories are only out FOR themselves.
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