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The leader of a right-wing German anti-immigration party Adolf Hitler has strongly denied having fascist views, claiming racist comments attributed to him on Facebook and Twitter about Jews and other ethnic minorities were the result of hackers trying to smear his name.
The leader of the National Socialist German Workers Party also claims his comments posted online in which he suggested a ‘Final Solution‘ to eradicate the entire Jewish population of Europe by building a network of death camps in order to industrialize the mass slaughter of non-ethnic German minorities were taken out of context.
In a statement on his personal blog, party spokesman Dr. Joseph Goebbels said the party leader’s account had been “hijacked“ but he confirmed the controversy would not deter the party from continuing to make a stand against an open-door policy of immigration.
Barry Davies said:
Tom this is beneath you, nazi’s really if you want to make references to their policies you should be presenting the coalitions current anti unemployed incapacitated and disabled policies with similarities to 30’s Germany, not to mention Labours allowing it to happen without a squeak.
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jeffrey davies (@jeffrey33333) said:
in the summer of 41 75 thousand sick disabled insane people who couldn’t work were gassed rtu ids had got a figure of around ten and a half thousand peoples but learnt that hiding this figure away will keep his record clean of
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Tom Pride said:
The blogpost is not about Hitler or the Nazi party. Read it again.
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Carl Mason said:
I read the other day that it’s impossible to gas yourself using a diesel engine and hosepipe. so how did the Nazis at Treblinka camp kill 3/4 of a million people, using 2 captured soviet diesel engines. Contrary to what I was taught at school.
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vicmart009 said:
Reblogged this on vicmart009 and commented:
Been of line trying to avoid the Fuhrers brownies & Shuster’s all day ,which is not easy for a slow old badger like me. All now seems temporarily restored tonight as I sit in my Caribbean synagogue in North Wales, snorting away on the butt of a neglected unwanted Woodbine. Then Wow! I had a blinding vision though it might not please the Fuhrer ! What if we cut of the right arm of all babies born at Easter to stop them eating chocolate eggs.
Then we wouldn’t have to worry too much about all the children being breast feed so much , except for those with remaining with a left arm. I even have a solution & plan for the left arm brigand babies . We could send them out badger culling in Oxford with a highly toxic orange gas. Yahoo! I shall let you know how we got on at the party your highness. Jolly fine boating weather .
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overburdenddonkey said:
carl
asphyxiation….
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FinkFurst said:
You are correct Tom. It’s actually a pathetic non-story about a UKIP candidate which was proved groundless more than a year ago. This kind of thing doesn’t help generate the real criticism and ridicule which UKIP deserves, it just makes your own criticism look ridiculous.
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Tom Pride said:
Oh dear Finkfurst. You haven’t worked out what it’s about either. As usual. Think bigger!
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FinkFurst said:
Oh dear Tom! Your high horse isn’t as high as you think it is! Satirical criticism (of UKIP or any reactionary politics) has to use CURRENT issues as a vehicle, or it falls flat on it’s face.
[FinkFurst – you’re still not thinking big enough. You follow a link in the blogpost to an old article about a UKIP candidate complaining about being hacked and you think Ooh! The blog post must be about an old article about a UKIP candidate complaining about being hacked. If you want to understand satire – try not to be so …. literal.] -TOM
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FinkFurst said:
You’re missing the point. Remove any reference to (semi) contemporary issues and what’s left?
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FinkFurst said:
P.S. I can both enjoy satire and also understand why it works, and the two are NOT the same thing. Some of your satire is very funny and some of it ain’t! This one falls over because it uses something which nobody remembers, wasn’t true then, and isn’t true now. Satire has to chime with something which is already in the reader’s mind. Arguably if you need to put in a link at all then it’s not going to work.
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overburdenddonkey said:
i’d say cats and bags…
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FinkFurst said:
There’s a lot of noise coming from the bag on the right, but the cat is far from out yet. Wait for September the 19th……
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Tom Pride said:
Finkfurst – Mmm! There are links in 100% of my blog posts.
And nobody remembers politicians trying to spin PR disasters? Really? Think Finkfurst think!
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FinkFurst said:
“And nobody remembers politicians trying to spin PR disasters? Really?”
Yes, really. Very seldom do they remember. If you can find one person in 10000 who remembers Alex Wood’s ‘Nazi salute’ then I would be astonished.
To illustrate my point about the reader’s mind – How many successful political satirists explain the political background to the issue or joke before they make it?
[Finkfurst – (sigh) you’re so right. I don’t ever remember any politician trying to spin a PR disaster. Never happens these days (as you think so literally, that last sentence was written in Microsoft Sarcasm font to help you out).
One. More. Time. This blog post is not about Alex Wood, Nazis or Hitler. You’re still not thinking big enough.
BTW, thank you very much for your expert opinion on what constitutes successful political satire. In fact, you’re such an expert – why don’t you try writing some? You never know – you might also be so successful that one day you get some know-it-all prick ‘advising’ you on how to do it too. 🙂 ] -TOM
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peter said:
Herr Adolf Hitler would like to add to his blog that to his present knowledge no living person of any Judaic ethnicity has ever been interned in any so-called ‘death camp’ but any Jews who wish to visit any summer German holiday camps are all welcome to stay for as long as they wish…….. Heil Hitler, Mein Fuhrer!!!
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FinkFurst said:
“One. More. Time. This blog post is not about Alex Wood, Nazis or Hitler. You’re still not thinking big enough.”
Yes.I.Know.That’s.Why.I.Said – “of UKIP or any reactionary politics”.
Some people can accept or discuss criticism (whether it’s right or wrong) and some people just get upset and start calling people rude names. Which are you?
I also said “Some of your satire is very funny…” – Do you disagree with that too?
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FinkFurst said:
P.S. I’m pretty sure you’ve never been a minister or an MP, or are even willing to try to become one, so are you therefore going to stop criticising them? No, of course not, and neither am I. Maybe I’m a “know-it-all prick”, but then so are you.
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overburdenddonkey said:
a bit like the yellowstone caldera….?
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FinkFurst said:
OBD – Sorry, you lost me on the switch to volcanic geology! Can you explain?
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overburdenddonkey said:
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well this is my best shot atm….
it was so big that it went unnoticed, there was no tell tell volcanic eruption, that heralded change from one state to another, from the original recognition of what was happening in the 1930’s, in two different lands…the strong political opposition to fascism has faded….now too few speak out, against it, it is ingrained…how did/does fascism get a cultural foot hold…on the spring board of poverty mainly…boom and bust and a yearning to recover what is lost…instead of doing something different, there are the words of einstein…insanity, doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results…..and neimoller “first they came for the socialists, but i did not speak out” ..
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FinkFurst said:
OBD – The difference of course is that we can’t do anything about volcanic activity, but society CAN do something about bigotry, oppression and inequality- IF WE WANT TO.
I say “WE”, but I hope and suspect that we in Scotland will take a different path from the one Tom is alluding to. I mentioned September 18th because the sad truth is that without Scotland the majority in the rUK ACTUALLY WANTS a right wing, reactionary government. Even worse, as UKIP and their like gain popularity there, they may end up holding the balance of power in the rUK Parliament. That’s a frightening thought.
Tom – Is that big enough for you?
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FinkFurst said:
So Tom… Can you engage in real discussion, or is taking the piss and calling people rude names all you can do?
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FinkFurst said:
OBD – Perhaps writing the same stuff over and over again on marginal sites such as this is precisely what Einstein meant? If so, then I’m just as insane as you, Tom and countless others!
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overburdenddonkey said:
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you’ll know all that i am saying in this post…i remind myself of it…this site should have no need for existence, but it does, because of the reality of what is happening…billions live in misery…doing somethings over and over again is useful/constructive…eating, sleeping, breathing, being a pacifist, having a social conscience, moved to reply, intervene, grow, develop, mature, against incredible odds…knowing, conveying, explaining, reviewing, finding the words that move is/can be incredibly taxing…luckily fascism is fairly approach unified, a single motive profit from the suffering of others, but unluckily very stubborn to shift once it has rooted…. i’m sure that einstein (who was many times viciously slurred by others) meant stop destructive behaviors they do not work, don’t pretend things are true for convenience or because truth is inconvenient…in awe of all the peripherals that create what we call reality/consciousness being awake to see it all, be joyful in discovery, not weaponise it…to be forced against our will/natural instincts does cause/is/fuels suffering and leads to many forms of deprivations…we all know when this happens because we are alerted too it by our senses, so that we can react to the threats and defend ourselves against them, our survival depends on us living with nature and not against it…we just know, but how we know defies description..the blog post is written as a response and too respond to….
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Carl Mason said:
how do you know? I’ve seen the curator of the Auschwitz museum say ” the chimney for the crematorium was built by the Russians after ww2″
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FinkFurst said:
Carl – If you’re so sure it’s impossible to be killed by diesel exhaust fumes, does that mean you’re willing to try it on yourself? I doubt it!
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overburdenddonkey said:
carl
how do i know that diesel fumes, are highly noxious, and poisonous… that diesel fuels can be blended with all sorts of other products, including petrol…that restricting the air supply to the engines, altering injected fuel amounts, changing pump timings/calibrations, removing engine thermostats so that the engine runs cold especially in winter etc etc, so that the engine produces even more toxic smoke/gases/particulates….that diesel engines were in regular use by the german army at the time, perhaps the russian diesel engines were larger and smokier…that for respiration one needs oxygen, and the exclusion of it causes death? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diesel_exhaust
do tell why you have also added subject changing material into the mix?
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Carl Mason said:
Finkfurst , you still breathing ? I wouldn’t hesitate to try it out on you.
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FinkFurst said:
Carl – You have just said that you would like to kill me. Why?
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FinkFurst said:
“So Tom… Can you engage in real discussion, or is taking the piss and calling people rude names all you can do?”
Apparently it’s only the latter……
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Carl Mason said:
Finkfurst, you’re a plastic intellectual, do you remember the last time you clashed with me?
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FinkFurst said:
No, I don’t remember you at all. What did I say which makes you want to kill me now?
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Carl Mason said:
Have you got dementia , you was arguing what Richard Cudenhove-Kalegri did or didn’t say. You said a person with 8 ‘o’ levels and pilots licence was stupid, do you remember ?. I told you that a person like you would end up on the sex offenders register. Only a few months ago, Has the penny dropped yet?
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FinkFurst said:
I tend to forget the comments from morons, because they’re not worth remembering. So…… what did I say which makes you want to kill me by asphyxiation now?
P.S. I think you meant to say “…you WERE arguing…”.
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Carl Mason said:
Shut up you cock. You say things and then have no knowledge of it, how thick or convenient for you. Go on, try and remember what you posted.
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FinkFurst said:
Apparently you have nothing relevant, rational, intelligent or credible to say. Your statement “it’s impossible to gas yourself using a diesel engine” pretty much says it all!
You clearly ARE a moron, and possibly also something much worse.
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Carl Mason said:
Don’t change the subject. Do you remember what you posted or not? while you’re thinking that one out, you can think about the comment I posted above. The curator of the Auschwitz museum said ” the chimney to the crematorium was built by the Russians after ww2″ or are you such a brainwashed twat that you are too scared to comment
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FinkFurst said:
Apparently you can’t read either. I said very clearly “No, I don’t remember you at all”. Maybe you’re just not very memorable!
You said “it’s impossible to gas yourself using a diesel engine”. Was that a deliberate lie, or are you just an idiot who can’t grasp reality?
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overburdenddonkey said:
carl
so according to your info the soviets did not build the crematoriums, which cannot have worked for intended purposes without chimneys, because of insufficient draft…also there are 3 auschwitz’s + subcamps..all of the chimneys were destroyed by/before 1945….they were operated by the SS up until the end of ww2, and taken over by the soviet NKVD….
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Carl Mason said:
finkfurst you need help , you can’t even remember what you’ve posted. Do they only let you out at weekends? Answer the question like OBD did, or are you to thick to fink for yourself. Google the info supplied by David Cole, and Prof Fred Tobien. Then make up your own mind, this may be difficult for you finknot.
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Carl Mason said:
OBD, David Cole, and Prof Fred Tobien present evidence that questions the official version of history. The Holocaust is the only period in history, that you can be jailed for questioning the events in 50 countries around the world, why?
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FinkFurst said:
Carl – You’re just another one among the countless idiots and nutters who crawl around sites such as this. Why should I remember you above all the rest? Your impression of yourself is grossly over-inflated.
The proof?…… You think it’s impossible to be killed by diesel exhaust fumes. You are therefore an idiot and a nutter.
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FinkFurst said:
Post a link to where the Auschwitz museum curator HIMSELF said this (not what another nutter like you claims he said) and I will comment. I bet you don’t!!!!
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FinkFurst said:
So Tom… Can you engage in real discussion, or is taking the piss and calling people rude names all you can do?
[In just a few comments you’ve managed to tell me my satire falls over, falls flat, fails, doesn’t work, is pathetic, groundless, looks ridiculous and doesn’t compare to “successful satirists” because it always has links. Look back over what you have written. I’m not the one being rude here.
Responding to insults isn’t taking part in ‘real discussion’. It’s feeding a troll. Say something interesting, intelligent or worthwhile and I might be tempted.] -TOM
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FinkFurst said:
Tom – I didn’t say most of those things, and most emphatically I did NOT say groundless. Inventing arguments doesn’t constitute a rational discussion and it’s sad that you have done so. I also said “Some of your satire is very funny…”, but you seem to have forgotten that. So my question remains – can you engage in a real discussion?
Criticism and rudeness are NOT the same thing! Did I call you a prick or any other rude name? So… yes, you WERE being rude, and I was not. Also, simply calling somebody a troll doesn’t automatically negate their opinions, much as many people in this virtual world (including you apparently) seem to think it does, or would prefer that it does.
Would you like to answer the gist of the question, which was… “I’m pretty sure you’ve never been a minister or an MP, or are even willing to try to become one, so are you therefore going to stop criticising them?”
[“It’s actually a pathetic non-story about a UKIP candidate which was proved groundless more than a year ago.”] – TOM
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FinkFurst said:
“Say something interesting, intelligent or worthwhile and I might be tempted.”
In your opinion, have I ever done so? Can you give a simple Yes or No?
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FinkFurst said:
Tom you asked me to “Say something interesting, intelligent or worthwhile and I might be tempted.”
How about:…
“the sad truth is that without Scotland the majority in the rUK ACTUALLY WANTS a right wing, reactionary government.”
“Even worse, as UKIP and their like gain popularity there, they may end up holding the balance of power in the rUK Parliament. That’s a frightening thought.”
Are these intelligent enough for you, and are you intelligent enough to discuss them with me?
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FinkFurst said:
Oh come on Tom! I said that silly story was groundless, which it WAS, not the bigger picture which YOU said you wanted to talk about. Do you want a real discussion or not?
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FinkFurst said:
Tom – I can’t believe that you don’t have clear opinions and are well capable of discussing them. If you simply don’t want to do so on this forum, then say so and I’ll stop trying to provoke you!
If Scotland votes for independence, do you agree with me that England will become a more institutionally racist country?
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Tom Pride said:
OK – it’s an interesting question. First of all, by the state of the current polling, I don’t think Scotland will vote for independence.
But anyway, I think it’s too simplistic to say England is right-wing or reactionary. It’s more right-wing than the establishment parties on some things – ie immigration – but more left-wing than them on other things – ie privatisation.
Also, GE voting intention between major parties doesn’t tend to change over the long term on individual events or poilcies. It’s more of a slow burn – a kind of mood or overall perception towards a particular party. For example, Labour are seen as ‘bad’ on the economy and immigration and the Tories on the NHS and fairness. Whether those perceptions are actually true or not is irrelevant. It’s very hard for the parties to change those attitudes quickly. So what the parties try to do is to concentrate the minds of the electorate on something more advantageous to themselves. Labour will try to spin the news towards the NHS and fairness – and the Tories to the economy and immigration. The level of success of the two parties to do that will to a large extent decide the result of the next election – which is going to be very close by the looks of it.
So to sum up – I’m not sure it’s all about the country being right or left-wing or even individual policies at all.
I think it all comes down to which party can spin the news to their own advantage most successfully. Unfortunately.
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FinkFurst said:
Tom – I think you, like so many others, are blithely dismissing the strong possibility of the biggest shift in UK politics in many generations. The truth is that the Scottish independence referendum will be on a knife edge. I was born and raised in the English home counties, but I have lived in Scotland for quite a few years now.
If Scotland votes for independence then your opinions about spin become completely irrelevant. NO AMOUNT of spin will be able to elect a Labour government in the rUK for the foreseeable future, because the majority of those who vote in England ARE right wing reactionaries and will vote Tory or UKIP. Labour will have to move even further to the right than any Blairites could possibly have envisaged or, more likely, Labour will divide catastrophically between those seeking power irrespective of principle (Milliband etc.), and those who still wish for a liberal egalitarian democracy.
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FinkFurst said:
P.S. I should also say that if Scotland does NOT vote for independence, then I agree with your analysis, and that it’s sad that principle politics in England is becoming a thing of the past, and is being replaced by spin around very small differences in policy. Do you know what… here in Scotland it ISN’T.
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Carl Mason said:
Finkfurst, type in youtube David Cole Auschwitz, or youtube Treblinka archaeology hoax. You will find different facts about the Holocaust, not what we are told in the official account.
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Carl Mason said:
Do you recall in various WW2 history accounts. The 3 einsatzgruppen shot over a million people Jews , communist, etc ,on the Eastern front. The 3 gruppen sent via enigma machines info regarding how many where shot and at what site, the info was sent weekly to Berlin. Bletchley park intercepted the info and used it as evidence at the Nuremburg Trials. I e mailed Bletchley park’s archive dept, to obtain copies. I was e mailed back. We don’t have any einsatzgruppen intercepts. Such historical documents have no record? very strange. Perhaps you can explain this finkfurst
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Carl Mason said:
Finkfurst, I’ve told you what to look for on youtube, are you too thick or too scared to look. also Why are most of the alleged mass shooting sites on the Eastern front not commemorated? because most of the shootings were carried out by local milita, or locals who had scores to settle ,or rob the Jews of their farms and possessions. The Russians and other countries are embarrassed by the action of their countrymen, hence the unmarked graves. The Germans got the blame, just like Katyn
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FinkFurst said:
If these supposed ‘facts’ are so easy to find, why have you not posted the links yourself? The reason is because all you can find on the internet is more ranting by other bigoted nutters just like you, and you know it. Your motivation is simple, nasty bigotry. That skews your thinking so far that you can’t tell the rational from the irrational.
What a pathetic, nasty little joke you are. The proof?…… You think it’s impossible to be killed by diesel exhaust fumes. You are therefore an idiot and a nutter.
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FinkFurst said:
How the f*** can I explain something which only you know about, you f***ing idiot! Post copies of your supposed email exchange with Bletchley HERE AND NOW. I bet you don’t!
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Carl Mason said:
Finkfurst you lazy bastard, you e mail Bletchley park yourself. Then post their reply. If I post it you’ll accuse me of doctoring it myself. While you’ve got your detective head on, as opposed to your defective head, can you google swimming pool at Auschwitz? then explain why the Nazis would build a swimming pool for the prisoners they were about to gas. Do your own spade work and post your findings on here . That way you can’t accuse me of anything.
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FinkFurst said:
You’re the one who’s trying to make a supposedly factual point. If you can’t provide facts then you’re a failure… it’s as simple as that.
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FinkFurst said:
I’m not accusing you of anything, I’m just stating the self-evident truth that you are an idiot and a nutter.
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Carl Mason said:
You are too scared of the facts , David Cole is Jewish, he questioned the facts regarding the holocaust and what we are told. You are here in the public domain and you’re to scared to google what I’ve posted. A nutter who can ask questions, is preferable to a blind sheep like you. Go finklestein , lets see you e mail Bletchley for the einsatzgruppen intercepts. What are you scared of you coward.
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FinkFurst said:
I’m glad you admit that you’re a nutter. That’s the first step! Now will you admit that you’re an idiot too? How about your idiotic assertion that it’s impossible to be killed by diesel exhaust fumes?
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Carl Mason said:
will you google the swimming pool at Auschwitz ,and Bletchley park, yes or no.? Here’s your chance to prove I’m making this all up, or are you too much of a coward who doesn’t know how to goole things. it’s your last chance you fat wanker. David Cole will explain about the diesel theory if you google it. Don’t reply till you’ve read the articles for yourself. Until you’ve done that you can’t argue .
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FinkFurst said:
I’m arguing with you, because nobody else is here. It’s pathetic to blame other people for your own statements. So far you appear to be a complete idiot. Once again… how about your idiotic assertion that it’s impossible to be killed by diesel exhaust fumes?
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Carl Mason said:
You’re too scared to google aren’t you. Ok answer this, why did the Jewish bankers the Rothschilds finance Hitler through out WW2? No idea have you. Explain why Hitler forced the Jews to wear the star of David. Here is a fact , oh sorry you don’t like to research facts do you. In 1919 the World Jewish congress announced 6 million Jews had died in WW1 and various pagroms and uprisings in Europe. From a European population of 12 million Jews. Again in 1945, 6 million again were killed in Europe. Now even you can work the maths out. Did you know officially the numbers killed at Auschwitz has been revised DOWN 3 times, yet you still say 6 million. While you’re here , others are able to google what I said, everyone apart from you. Bye bye Finklebaum , too much info for you to google. When you’ve googled it let me know
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FinkFurst said:
I’m arguing with things you DID say, whilst you’re arguing with things I DIDN’T say. You’ve already admitted that you’re a nutter, so perhaps I shouldn’t be surprised that you have problems with rational thought.
I’ll try again – How about your idiotic assertion that it’s impossible to be killed by diesel exhaust fumes? It’s right here in black and white for all to see! Are you denying it?
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Carl Mason said:
As I told you . Google it for yourself and let David Cole explain it to you better than I can, but you refuse because you are coward as people can see from your lack of action. One last fact for you to google, the lampshades made from human skin, they have been tested scientifically for DNA. And 100% proven NOT to be human skin. You failed to google anything I told you to. Like the lampshades you are a fake. No google Bye bye .
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FinkFurst said:
If some other nutter named David Cole is so much smarter than you, then why the f*** do you bother to say anything at all?
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Carl Mason said:
I gave you enough info to google it all for yourself, but you refuse to look, even a child can do it. All I can say is that you’re cunt
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FinkFurst said:
“All I can say is that you’re cunt”
You’re absolutely right. That IS the sum total of your mental abilities.
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