(not satire – it’s the Lib Dems)
A few days ago I wrote about a report into a second shocking case of sexual harassment by a Lib Dem MP which has been blocked from public view by the Liberal Democrats:
Lib Dems use taxpayers’ money to suppress report into second sex harassment case
Fortunately the report by Nigel Pascoe QC into allegations of sexual harassment by Lib Dem MP Mike Hancock of one of his female constituents has now been leaked.
Here are some of the most shocking extracts as told by the disabled woman (AH) when interviewed by Nigel Pascoe QC (NP) about Mike Hancock’s behaviour towards her:
Shame on the Liberal Democrats for trying to hide this report. And how can the police and the CPS say this is does not constitute criminal behaviour?
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Even this leaked report has been heavily redacted by the Lib Dems. What else are they trying to hide?
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Related articles by Tom Pride:
Now local Lib Dems defy Nick Clegg and vote for Hancock to keep lucrative position
Lib Dems use taxpayers’ money to suppress report into second sex harassment case
Lord Rennard on Cyril Smith: “a personal inspiration to me”
Is this the most jaw-dropping example of hypocrisy from the Lib Dems yet?
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Nick Clegg pledges clampdown on harassment of hot Lib Dem peers by women
Nick Clegg to Lib Dems – “Prepare for Oppositionment!”
Scientists finally discover function of Nick Clegg
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drew said:
Is this legit?
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Keith Roberts said:
Sadly it is. Read the reports in the local newspaper: http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/politics/mike-hancock-suspended-from-the-lib-dems-after-report-leaked-1-5826738
Mike Hancock has often hit local headlines because of his affairs, but previous ones, that have reached the public eye, while arguably casting doubt on his common sense, have not had any suggestion of harassment.
This is quite different and it is appalling that his party colleagues were still trying to avoid action and suppress the facts as recently as Tuesday.
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Tom Pride said:
Yes – unfortunately.
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guy fawkes said:
corruption prevails.
There are men trying to abuse you in a physical sense or men trying to portray you as abusive or even telling you that you are unsure about your sex because you happen to pick an historic figure who is male as a moniker, which ever way you cut it it is all abuse, which they sneakily try to twist back on you. These pests should be banned from social media sites.
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beastrabban said:
Reblogged this on Beastrabban’s Weblog.
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thegentlemancaller100 said:
A vulnerable (but attractive) constituent approaches an MP for help and advice and instead of receiving what she no doubt voted for she, she is verbally abused and physically molested in her own home! Ah! The ruling classes!
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FinkFurst said:
guy fawkes said: January 22, 2014 at 12:07 pm
“It is so obvious what your sex and sexual persuasion is, your colour too.”
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guy fawkes said:
FF
Printing comments out of context of the whole argument is what the deceitful press try to do. What are you some politically correct hunter, perhaps I should complain about mother in law jokes but I am not that petty.
You think you are funny but there is not an ounce of wit in you your just a fool.
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guy fawkes said:
you’re.
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FinkFurst said:
This account describes what is very clearly a criminal offence. There are some high profile trials in the news at this moment, such as that of Dave Lee Travis, which are at least equivalent. Why has Hancock not been arrested and charged?
It also occurs to me that if this report is evidence of a crime and was suppressed, then the people who suppressed it are possibly also guilty of a criminal offence.
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guy fawkes said:
FinkFurst said:
January 18, 2014 at 5:39 pm
Mrs Guy ‘Moron or monster’ Fawkes
YOU have communicated with inane banter, but I have not. I don’t know whether you are a fundamentally immoral person or just so shallow and stupid that you say anything which comes into your head. The outcome is the same. You may think that what you have written on this site is transient, but you will find out that it is not.
On the one hand he says he is being sarcastic and on the other he says he does not communicate with inane banter, he is right about that too it is just insulting dialogue that spews from his mouth.
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guy fawkes said:
FinkFurst said:
January 22, 2014 at 2:33 pm
Dear Mrs Guy Fawkes
Apparently you are saying that you might be male or female, but you want to be called “Mrs.” because of your sexuality. That’s absolutely OK, what you want to be called on this web site is entirely up to you, and your sexuality is none of my business. I will try not to forget, and I don’t think I ever will now!
I think you have confused overburdenddonkey too. He refers to you with “she” and “her”. What on earth did you say to him?
On this web site I am simply what my opinions show me to be, no more and no less, and my opinions are honest (except sometimes there’s a little sarcasm!).
P.S. Using the title “Mrs.” if you are male can cause some legal problems in the UK. You might want to look into that.
According to fINKfURST what I apparently said is nothing like what I said, repeatedly I asked him to use my correct moniker and still he persists with insults, if this man is or is not Tom Pride, because he can slot extra comments in when there is no reply button, then I think he is the one that should be reported for abusive behaviour.
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guy fawkes said:
guy fawkes said:
January 22, 2014 at 1:57 pm
You LIAR.
i NEVER told you what my sex was and the only reason I mentioned my sexuality and that I was a Mrs was because you referred to me as ms and to annoy me you carried on doing so..
Sorry but honesty is certainly not your strong point, so I think I will refrain from your pontificating of what I am or am not, until you state honestly who you are in detail, but I don’t expect an honest answer anyway so that will let you off the hook from replying to me.
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FinkFurst said:
This controversy and the other wounds that the Lib Dems have received recently may well prove to be fatal, especially if their leadership falls apart because of them, as it seems to be doing. If so, this may lead to a significant change to the prospects for the general election in 2015.
If Lib Dem support falls away, who will it go to? Apparently the economy is improving, and the old adage “It’s the economy, stupid” holds true, so the Tories will get the credit. I doubt that this has anything much to do with Tory policies, but it will still be seen as such by much of the electorate. So if many Lib Dem voters go over to Tory, and core Tory voters are no longer so disillusioned by the economy and immigration and so don’t vote UKIP, then Labour is in SERIOUS trouble.
Of course if Scotland votes for independence this year then it’s game over, there will probably be a permanent Tory government in the rest of the UK for a generation or more.
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guy fawkes said:
And in Scotland too under the SNP banner.
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Mike Sivier said:
Reblogged this on Vox Political and commented:
I’m not entirely familiar with the process but it seems likely there should be a ‘trigger alert’ on this, for those who need it.
This makes the most uncomfortable reading, but I think it is important that it is seen. It seems certain Liberal Democrats have been in the habit of abusing positions of power, even when they weren’t in government office.
Cyril Smith, the allegations against Lord Rennard and now Mike Hancock… The operative question now is, are there any more revelations waiting to come out?
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guy fawkes said:
If they can infiltrate the labour party they can and have done the same to SNP.
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FinkFurst said:
I don’t think Liberal Democrats have a monopoly on the habit of abusing positions of power! The curious question is WHY these dishonest politicians from the various parties abuse their positions. All parties seem to do so for monetary gain, though the Tories do so on a much grander scale than Labour, who don’t seem to go much further than fiddling their expenses. The Lib Dems seem to be more interested in sex than money. Isn’t all this rather strange?
Of course these are all just caricatures, but are they so far from the truth?
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FinkFurst said:
You think the Tory party has somehow infiltrated both the Labour party and the SNP? How about the SWP too? Your relationship with reality is tenuous at best.
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guy fawkes said:
certainly of your caricatures of truth, what about 2 women John Prescott or is that to be equated with the French being allowed to have mistresses.
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guy fawkes said:
Could be right about the SWP too.
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seachranaidhe1 said:
Reblogged this on seachranaidhe1.
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Paul Smyth said:
Reblogged this on The Greater Fool.
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xraypat said:
Gobsmacked at the audacity of this MP who is beneath contempt. Surely…the LibDems will kick him out ? Dreadful for the Party and it will definitely put people off voting for them….especially women.
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guy fawkes said:
PS you should be on reality tv, you’re false and plastic enough.
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Michael Igoe said:
‘Guy Fawkes’ (sic: is (s)he impersonating the better-known Guido Fawkes or not?) It doesn’t really matter. What does is the emptiness of his/her comments. What skin colour has to do with anything sexual belongs to Victorian stereotypes. We don’t carry rulers, Mr(s) Fawkes, for that purpose. Or most of us don’t. If Prescott at least allegedly had affairs with one or two women, that does nothing to excuse abusive behaviour as reported here. My offence, if any, is no less serious if someone else commits it too. We have to answer for ourselves and our own conduct. The issue is one of consent, which apparently wasn’t given, according to the report. And to pick on a disabled person is beyond repellent. Pity about the LibDems: I did warn them about accepting Satan’s shilling.
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jaypot2012 said:
Reblogged on Jay’s Journal and commented:
I can’t believe what I read! As a victim of a rape many years ago, aged just 13, I have such contempt for this “man” and for the Lib/Dems as well.
That poor woman. And as for the police and CPS, I hope that they too are taken to court. And I hope that Hancock is never allowed to be in politics in any shape or form, is imprisoned and that he’s put with men who can’t stand rapists!
I feel so angry and so upset!
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guy fawkes said:
Michael Igoe
The comments you have read and took your lead from were comments from previous posts where I had to defend myself against the lies perpetrated by FinkFurst.
I have not mentioned colour in this thread or any other FinkFurst brought up the subject to yet again try to discredit me or accredit me with something I have not said.
I am female but use a male historical figure as my moniker which Fink Furst correlates with having gender issues, quite how he arrives at that conclusion only his addled mind knows.
If you read again my comment which begins corruption prevails you will see that I was referring to the abuse mentioned and other forms of abuse by certain commenters on different posts on this website.
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FinkFurst said:
jaypot2012 – Your post raises a interesting idea which I don’t think I have ever seen discussed anywhere. Is it possible to prosecute somebody in the CPS for an offence relating to their work?
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FinkFurst said:
P.S. I agree with what you say about Hancock, but he hasn’t even been arrested or charged with a criminal offence… YET!
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guy fawkes said:
ps although the relationship that John Prescott was considered to be consensual, the fact that he was her boss and the affair was within the workplace could be considered an abuse of power.
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guy fawkes said:
that should read with John Prescott.
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FinkFurst said:
“I have not mentioned colour in this thread or any other…”
Ms Fawkes – You really shouldn’t tell lies. Go and sit on the naughty stair until you are ready to apologise…
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FinkFurst said:
P.S. The biggest exception to what I suggested is of course Tony Blair. His dishonesty goes SO much further than fiddling expenses it’s hard to know where to start!
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guy fawkes said:
show me where I mentioned colour first and I will show you your reference to it beforehand. I can’t stomach even speaking to a moron like you who uses aliases to back himself up and appears to be able to post where others are denied due to no reply button as been proved on other posts prior to this one.
Gay men tend to be jealous of real women.
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FinkFurst said:
“Gay men tend to be jealous of real women”
Another superb foot-in-mouth statement from Ms Guy ‘I’m not a bigot’ Fawkes!!!!!
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guy fawkes said:
That is not bigotry your moron it is fact. They are bigger bitches than most women ever could be or want to be unless pushed.
They love to hang around straight men and women on the off chance they might score, I’ve seen it too many times and you and you’re comments are living proof.
What percentage did you rate the brains of a man against a woman in a previous post and I’m the one that makes sexist remarks, comment by all means but do not reply to me or make up monikers to reply to me.
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FinkFurst said:
Wow!!!! How many feet is it possible to fit in your mouth!
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kathryn said:
Every bloody page of the report here. https://skydrive.live.com/?cid=01a784143c206d42&id=1A784143C206D42!105
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guy fawkes said:
How many to kick your backside for harassment and insults.
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FinkFurst said:
kathryn – The link doesn’t seem to be working at the moment. Does anyone have a working link to the report?
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Tom Pride said:
It’s in the blogpost under the words ‘has now been leaked’.
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FinkFurst said:
Tom – That link isn’t working either – at least not from here.
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guy fawkes said:
How many to kick your backside for harassment and insults.
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Tom Pride said:
Works for me. It’s to skydrive.live.com
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FinkFurst said:
Not for me. Does it depend on whether you have a Skydrive account? I don’t. Do you?
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Barrie Lynes said:
Why oh why isn’t this fucking pig behind bars. Aaahhhhh!!!!!
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Tom Pride said:
No – I don’t have an account either. Strange.
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FinkFurst said:
Tom – I just found the reason. I’m using Chrome and it doesn’t work with that. Microsoft are cutting off their nose to spite their face.
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guy fawkes said:
You consider yourself to be some agent provocateur on the lookout for anyone calling gays, despite the fact that gays are the biggest hypocrites walking.
The life blood of Drag artists and camp comics is to fire off sexist remarks depending on the audience and they love it so much they take it out into the real world, just as you do on these forums.
Foot in mouth not on your life.
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claidig said:
Wow. Just wow.
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Michael Igoe said:
“Guy” (or Gaia?): Did FinkFurst accurately quote a posting of yours of January 22nd, in which reference was made to the ‘obviousness of your colour’? If he did not, I believe you should have a word with him – of which there are many already, I simply quoted him in good faith, in the belief that he was quoting you. Can you substantiate your homophobic comment, among others, above, that ‘gays are the biggest hypocrites walking’? On what scale do you measure hypocrisy? Is every gay person, in your thinking, a drag artist or ‘camp queen’? This sounds to me very much like the obsolete, we hoped, bigotry of the 1950s and earlier. Or, more colloquially, put up or shut up. The hole you are digging for yourself with your immoderate language and sentiments is deep enough already. Lay your shovel aside. A general warning here: a presumption of guilt must not be made against Hancock or anyone else, like the man or not. Due process must be followed, and all evidence tested before guilt or innocence can be established. Even the real Guy Fawkes, 400 years ago, was accorded that right.
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Michael Igoe said:
‘That is not bigotry, your (sic) moron’ A quotation taken from your reply above to another comment. ‘They love to hang around straight men and women…etc’. Your source for those beliefs, “Guy”? You’re clearly either well informed on the subject of homosexuality, or seriously mistaken. Which is it? Please, ‘Guy’ improve your English while posting. It’s ‘your comments’, not ‘you’re’.
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FinkFurst said:
Michael – The quote from Ms Fawkes is correct. You can find it in the recent thread about Lord Rennard on Cyril Smith if you want to check. Good luck with trying to have a rational discussion with her! She is probably the bigoted person posting on this site, and it’s not limited to homophobia.
By the way, she will probably soon start to say that you and I are the same person, and possibly also that we are both actually Tom Pride..
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FinkFurst said:
P.S. The real Guy Fawkes was only accorded the right of the ‘due process’ of those times, which I’m not sure we would recognise as such today!
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guy fawkes said:
Go and have a sex change all three of you that you said I would think you were, anyone reading this should have no doubts now about what sort of site this is, because while protesting about abuse in his posts Tom Pride has conveniently sat by (unless of course you, Michael and others are his aliases) and watched while you abuse not just me but most people that you have replied to on here.
I would cut my hands off before I apologize to a shit stirrer like you, but you think you have a right to it as you have said in other posts.
My gay friends are laughing at what I have written and even they thiink you are revolting, wait until I send all of this to my friend who now lives back in Nigeria that I am a racist, you have no idea and I would not brag, but she knows.
You ignorant, arrogant braggart.
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guy fawkes said:
I have a family member who is gay and does not flatter the gay community at all.
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FinkFurst said:
Ms Fawkes – You think your imaginary gay friends are laughing at you too? Well I guess everybody is then!
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FinkFurst said:
Ms Fawkes – I seriously suggest again that you think about Dennis Healey’s “First Law of Holes”.
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guy fawkes said:
My friends are not imaginary I can assure you of that and it is you and your aliases that they are laughing at, don’t worry we all laugh together something you are incapable of doing because you are a sad, lonely figure who is incapable of laughing at himself that is why we do it for you. I have not invented any aliases on here as you have,you even resented a real person overburdened donkey supporting my claims – you are a sick, jealous bitch.
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FinkFurst said:
Ms Fawkes – Anybody who says “They are bigger bitches than most women ever could be or want to be unless pushed. They love to hang around straight men and women on the off chance they might score” definitely does NOT have any gay friends!
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FinkFurst said:
P.S. I think you will find that overburdendonkey is no longer very willing to endorse your opinions. Why don’t you try asking him?
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guy fawkes said:
I lived in the gay capital of the UK and my gay friends attended my marriage . I have gay friends where I live now as well as some family members who like I said are not enamoured with the gay community, they do not want to parade half naked, bllowing whistles amongst other things, they are decent and conservative and the type of gays I would support wholeheartedly..
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guy fawkes said:
ps conservative as do not frequent gay bars and engage in the shenanigans that some do in the name of Gay Pride, not as in conservative politically.
I’m watching my tennis bye.
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FinkFurst said:
“I have a family member who is gay”
“I have gay friends where I live now as well as some family members”
First it was one, now it’s “some”. Are you going for “lots” next?
The naughty stair beckons again!
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guy fawkes said:
I say some because some are related to my in- laws not my direct family – couldn’t you work that out Mr Gay Tom Pride?
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guy fawkes said:
As for Dennis Healy’s first law of holes, I don’t dig holes unless I want to bury someone.
Are you hoping the thought police will pick up on your hetrophobic rantings in the hope that I am the one to be banned and not you, due to the fact that people have preferences not biases as to who they like or dislike or who they consider to be friends or not.
Homophobia is a fear of gays and I think I have proved I am not afraid of you, but by trying to incriminate me you have proved yourself to be jealous, hetrophobic and a dirty tricks gay, the type with your aliases and extra comment inserts, I do not wish to have as friends.
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guy fawkes said:
PS It is you who is mixing with the wrong gays if you think they all think like you or would support your rants.
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FinkFurst said:
“I say some because some are related to my in- laws not my direct family – couldn’t you work that out Mr Gay Tom Pride?”
Ah… so somebody in your family got married in the last couple of hours? An excellent explanation. You’re getting very good at them now. I’m looking forward to the next one!
I’m not sure how Tom is taking this, but I bet he’s p*ssing himself!
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guy fawkes said:
I do not class distant in-laws as direct family. I think you have answered for Tom, unfortunate choice of words for someone with a bladder problem.
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FinkFurst said:
So now you think I’m NOT Tom Pride! Make up your mind!
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guy fawkes said:
one and the same bladder problem.
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FinkFurst said:
Ms Fawkes – “Homophobia is a fear of gays”
No it isn’t. You should look at a dictionary occasionally, and your morals even more…
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guy fawkes said:
Get lost you are boring me to tears.
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FinkFurst said:
Hmmmmmmm… let me think about that for a while… NO.
… or maybe I’ll just one of those sneaky aliases or extra comment inserts you keep talking about!
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guy fawkes said:
Go fall in the hole I dug for you!
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guy fawkes said:
why haven’t you fell into the hole I dug for you?
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FinkFurst said:
“why haven’t you fell into the hole I dug for you?”
Do you TRY to look like a fool as well as a bigot? It certainly seems so!
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guy fawkes said:
Stop trying to be hole-ier than thee, you could never be!
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FinkFurst said:
Somebody with the disgusting opinions that you hold shouldn’t even try to make jokes. Stick to being a mindless bigot, because that’s the only thing you’re good at.
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guy fawkes said:
bye bozo!
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FinkFurst said:
I’m not going anywhere and nor, I suspect, are you. So you can look forward to me quoting your foul bigotry back at you many more times!
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guy fawkes said:
Hey, I don’t know what your game is by trying to imply that I am a bigot, but you are making yourself if you are a gay community member look bloody ridiculous and I don’t think ANY of them will thank you for it, or are you trying some reverse psychology here and looking for people to insult the gay community because you are actually the bigot against gays, if so you will not find it here mate not unless it happens to be the truth and mine and others’ experiences.
I have my own views on gays as I do on hetrosexuals and I can tell you there are good and bad amongst both and you are definitely one of the baddies whether a bigot gay or a bigoted hetrosexual. I am neither so go and play your childish games elsewhere I’m done giving you my time and humour, humour being something you lack big time.
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FinkFurst said:
guy fawkes said: January 23, 2014 at 4:56 pm
“They are bigger bitches than most women ever could be or want to be unless pushed. They love to hang around straight men and women on the off chance they might score, I’ve seen it too many times…”
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guy fawkes said:
Fact! now go away you are like a monkey on my back and we hang monkeys where I come from.
You need to be on a couch, either a casting couch or a psychiatric one, both would be applicable to you the last one more so.
GET LOST. you petulant P…! the last word was pest or prat take your pick,but I’m sure you would imply it meant something else.
Nobody on here wants to reply to you and neither do I.
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FinkFurst said:
guy fawkes said: January 22, 2014 at 12:07 pm
“It is so obvious what your sex and sexual persuasion is, your colour too.”
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guy fawkes said:
If anyone else is bothering to read this,which I doubt due to the tediousness of it only lifted by my humourous interjections, I would like to confirm that there are lots of bigoted and sexist remarks from FinkFurst throughout this blogg not to mention disgustingly insulting behaviour towards those who reply to him for your perusal also.
I therefore suggest you ignore the partial remarks which he has extracted and read the conversations in full and how and why I came to say the things I did and I retract nothing.
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FinkFurst said:
guy fawkes said: January 23, 2014 at 4:41 pm
“Gay men tend to be jealous of real women.”
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guy fawkes said:
If anyone needs any proof of the PREDATORY nature of the gay man FINKFURST is it!
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FinkFurst said:
guy fawkes said: January 23, 2014 at 8:34 pm
“gays are the biggest hypocrites walking”
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guy fawkes said:
I agree Barrie Lynes that is where FinkFurst should be.
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FinkFurst said:
It took you 3 days to think of that? Impressive!
Do you still believe in “the PREDATORY nature of the gay man? (January 25, 2014 at 5:51 pm)
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guy fawkes said:
ps not the kind of bars that he can toss cocktails about either!
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guy fawkes said:
What does Wow mean – Waste of Words?
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claidig said:
‘Working on Wit’?
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guy fawkes said:
Good for you, keep it up!
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