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A Prime Minister has been jailed for six-and-a-half years for imprisoning a vulnerable Sheffield man with learning difficulties and treating him “like a slave”.
David Cameron, 44, pleaded guilty to regular violent assaults on Nick Clegg’s credibility, 34, who he forced to live in his garage as Deputy PM at an address in central Westminster.
Cameron’s neighbour George, 48, also pleaded guilty to being recklessly in charge of an economy and was sentenced to four-and-a-half years in prison.
Cameron’s wife Samantha, 40, was jailed for four months for being irritating.
‘Grotesque and inhuman’
Police had been called to the property in Downing Street, Westminster, following a fight between the Osborne and Cameron neighbours last July.
David Brooke, prosecuting, said:
“He (Mr Clegg) told police that he’d been living in the garage and that he’d slept on a piece of carpet and used an old pair of Iain Duncan Smith’s underpants as a blanket.
The physical and mental abuse meted out by the Cameron family and their neighbours the Osbornes on a highly vulnerable man plumbs the depths of depravity.”
Det Insp Vicky Short of South Yorkshire Police said Mr Clegg had been attacked with a range of weapons including brutal privatisation of the NHS, vicious attacks on the welfare state and a crowbar which was used for bludgeoning laws onto the statute book aimed at demonising the disabled, the unemployed and immigrants.
Jailing the Cameron and Osborne families, Judge Peter Kelson QC said it was “staggering” this could happen in modern society.
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guy fawkes said:
Everyone on benefits is being kept as a slave by the westminster family.
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FinkFurst said:
Errrrrrrr…… Isn’t the whole concept of slavery that they have to work?
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guy fawkes said:
Yes clever cloggs, but being forced to work for nothing is slavery.
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FinkFurst said:
Correct – being forced to work for nothing is slavery. People on benefits ARE given money and DON’T have to work for it. How the hell can you call that slavery? I agree that it’s extremely difficult, but it is patently NOT slavery!
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overburdenddonkey said:
yes they do, have to work for money….
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ray said:
you again why don`t you bugger off you tory prat
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FinkFurst said:
Ray – You think I’m a Tory??? I’ve been criticising Labour for being too Tory!!!
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guy fawkes said:
Finkfurst
People on benefits are not given money, they are drawing money they are entitled to because there is not a job available that pays enough wages to bring them off the benefit they are entitled to.
If your way of thinking is the SNP’s way of thinking then you are no better than the tories.
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guy fawkes said:
ps Your argument that people are not being forced to work for their benefits shows how ignorant you are of dwp policy. This forcing of people to work for benefits is what not only constitutes slavery but the sanctioning of benefits to those that refuse to do workfare proves that this government is a pack of exploiting thieves.
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ray said:
finkfurst, if you saying you are not a tory, then why are you supporting tory views?
Yes I am on benefit, now but worked for 40 years, paid my dues into the system,almost certain I will not be around to get my pension, so according to you regardless of what I have paid in, I should not get anything, and in my ill state should work for my benefit, that is slavery.
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FinkFurst said:
Both of you have very one-track minds! I’m not saying ANYTHING about the current government policy towards work or benefits (which incidentally I think is disgustingly uncaring and destroys lives). I’m just saying that it’s NOTHING like slavery. You clearly have no idea what slavery actually was, and still is.
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FinkFurst said:
Yes, they ARE given money, and to which they are (usually) entitled. I’m not sure what way of thinking you’re disputing.
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guy fawkes said:
When you can be left with nothing to live on via benefit sanctions because you refuse to work for benefits, that is slavery.
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FinkFurst said:
That makes no sense to me. People claim benefits if they’re entitled to them, and if they are in paid work then it changes their entitlement (at least that’s how a fair system should work). In what way are people being forced to work for benefits?
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FinkFurst said:
P.S. … and that’s still not slavery anyway. If people were being forced to work without any pay or benefits, then that would be.
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guy fawkes said:
Benefits are the entitlement of those that have paid into a system that is robbing them of such by classing it as wages.
The banks and insurance companies have made a fortune from loaning out peoples pensions, then want to rob them of it or kill them off before they reach pensionable age.
Working for benefits as those on workfare do, does not constitute working for a minimum wage, because those on workfare work longer hours so should earn more than their benefits, although this argument is void for the fact that benefits are not wages.
This government is increasing rents which then increasing housing benefits so that they can say people get a lot of benefit, even though it goes to greedy landlords.
So because those receiving benefits are receiving their own money back, nobody is paying them a wage for the work they do, they are being used as slaves by the corporates.
The tories and new labour have been happy to break minimum wage laws and classify the work by benefit claimants as training. They have been protecting landlords while allowing them to hike rents for the poorest which in turn increases housing benefit costs, even though living costs to claimants for food, clothes, heating, water etc. is not keeping pace with inflation.
They are a bunch of crooks.
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overburdenddonkey said:
g fawkes
yes, imv it is slavery (servitude), slavery is where one has no choice where to put ones mined and body or get no vitals, do this that or the other or get no vitals….being forced to deny normal human behaviours and rebellions to the tasks set by the masters….
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FinkFurst said:
I think we agree about quite a lot of things, but I strongly disagree with you that only those who have paid into the system are entitled to take from it.
Jeder nach seinen Fähigkeiten, jedem nach seinen Bedürfnissen!
I also think that to call this slavery is simply wrong, and just makes the word meaningless.
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guy fawkes said:
FinkFurst
I think you talk a load of rot. and I do not think only those that paid into it should be entitled to benefits from it. It is a national benefit for those in need whether unemployed, sick or disabled or a pensioner.
The problem is most of the welfare bill is paid as I said to greedy landlords and the rich who are not entitled to a benefit that is for the needy.
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FinkFurst said:
You said “Benefits are the entitlement of those that have paid into a system”!!!!
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guy fawkes said:
Yes I did and that system included their spouse and offsprings should they be hostages of fortune due to our so called wealth creators chasing cheap labour abroad.
To each according to his NEED not greed. When work does not provide a decent wage for all, instead of the skewed incomes system we have in this country, then capitalism cannot be called a workable economic and political system.
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FinkFurst said:
So apparently you did mean it, but you now seem to be saying that somebody should only get benefits if members of their family have paid into the system. Is that what you mean?
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overburdenddonkey said:
when i started work in 1968..i queried NI on my payslip, when it was explained to me that it was a fund for the common good i accepted it…for if i were ever in need i would benefit from it..the poor house nor charity offer no solution to poverty, and in fact worsen poverty. so it as you imply right and proper, for all to be paid benefits for when in obvious need, enough to meet all human vital life/living sustaining requirements and maintain human vitality….there should be no sanctions or conditionality applied to it’s payment, as these become levers of power over the benefit entitled….all slavery is ultimately emotional slavery…the benefits system is now blatantly used as levers of power, to modify human behaviours and this is plain wrong…
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FinkFurst said:
overburdenddonkey – I agree with the first part, but not the second. To get philosophical about it… don’t ALL societies have to have the means to modify the behavior of some individuals?
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guy fawkes said:
I mean what William Beveridge meant, that the welfare state is a national system to which all those in NEED are entitled, not all of those that did or did not pay into the system. Do children pay into the welfare state – no, but they can draw from it if in need. The same applies to migrant workers before you ask, providing there are border controls regarding numbers entering the country.
Piss takers who have the same mindset as you have changed the benefits system out of all recognition and introduced unjust conditionality for those that should be claiming, while doling it out to the rich.
Occupy says hijack the economy – I say it has it has already been hijacked.
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guy fawkes said:
preferably yours FinkFurst.
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overburdenddonkey said:
re behaviour mods…it is wrong, because it leads to concrete operational societies and bullying that is rife, the type of bullying which is rife in our culture…ie life/behaviour is what we say it is or else…the human mind does not thrive in such circumstances…creativity is stifled by it…
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FinkFurst said:
overburdenddonkey – Do you think our society should try to modify the behaviour of greedy bankers, or MPs fiddling their expenses?
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FinkFurst said:
…then I still don’t understand what you meant by “Benefits are the entitlement of those that have paid into a system” if it’s not what those words seem to mean. I guess you’re not going to explain, are you?
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overburdenddonkey said:
clever…but they got there via behaviour modifications…
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guy fawkes said:
Is it my fault you have no comprehension of the difference between need and Greed, entitlement and non-entitlement, paid for via a national insurance system?
One thing the benefits system is not is wages and that is all you need to know.
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FinkFurst said:
I already said “Jeder nach seinen Fähigkeiten, jedem nach seinen Bedürfnissen”, so perhaps there’s a small chance that I do comprehgend!
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guy fawkes said:
FinkFurst
“To each according to his need from each according to his ability”, are the work of marx and Engles’ communist manifesto which I am not espousing. I am talking about socialism not communism.
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FinkFurst said:
Yes, I know you didn’t espouse that statement, because I wrote it, not you. I tend to notice little things like that. However, you DID espouse that socialist principle more than once.
…and you need to do some more reading about the history of socialism and communism. Try Googling “à chacun selon ses besoins, de chacun selon ses facultés”…
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guy fawkes said:
You truly are a sciolist aren’t you? It took you long enough to reply. I think your a twit and refuse to indulge you further.
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FinkFurst said:
Well I’m obviously more knowledgeable than you if you think that quote is a communist principle and not a socialist one
…and apparently I have a life too!
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guy fawkes said:
FinkFurst
Grow up and start your own blogg.
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FinkFurst said:
Oh no!!! Does that mean you won’t offer me any more of your knowledge of socialism? However, you were right about one thing – I am a piss taker. Some take it with good humour, and some don’t.
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guy fawkes said:
Piss takers are never humorous just tedious trolls.
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FinkFurst said:
So much for refusing to indulge me further!
Perhaps I could suggest that you buy a dictionary, because “with good humour” does not have the same meaning as “humorous”, and I was referring to you, not me.
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guy fawkes said:
It is you who needs a dictionary because humour has 3 meanings and a pisstaker is someone who thinks they are humorous,my reply being to you not myself.
So P*** off.
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guy fawkes said:
Urban Dictionary: piss taker
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=piss%20taker
It is used to define annoying people or perverts. While I came here,I was hoping to meet a someone nice,not a piss taker.
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FinkFurst said:
I don’t feel like p***ing off just yet. Do you? Are you enjoying our exchange?
…and if you think I was using the archaic medical meaning then you’re even less bright than I thought!
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guy fawkes said:
said the self confessed pervert.
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FinkFurst said:
So you think I told you that I’m a pervert and that I work for the DWP? I think I’m starting to understand now. I’m sorry, perhaps winding you up is a bad idea.
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guy fawkes said:
Go talk to your shrink.
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FinkFurst said:
Going to talk to somebody is good advice for many people who are finding things difficult.
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