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Disability activist and consultant Simon Stevens wrote a blog for the Huffington Post yesterday defending ATOS:
‘Atos Declares Coma Patients Fit’ and Other Disability Related Welfare Urban Myths
It’s probably not all that surprising he’s defending ATOS, considering he’s employed by them:
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Oh dear Simon. Thought no-one would notice, did you?
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what a cunt
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Someone else making money out of our misery. When we people like him wake up and realise the WCA can never work and DLA is just a cost cutting exercise? Me thinks he doth protest too much. x
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The guy is a proper little Judas isn’t he?
He wrote: ‘Atos is an organisation I can work with and should work with, but there are some organisations I would find it very difficult to work with, like the BNP. But I would even consider working for them, depending on what exactly they wanted and whether it was the right price.’
http://disabilitynewsservice.com/2013/08/why-i-chose-to-work-with-atos/
For once I agree with nuggy 🙂
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Is this what the DWP mean by “quality issues” in ATOS staff reports. Missing out basic “declarations of interest” would be a major factual error!
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the huffingdon post have got a fair bit to answer for as well here.
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it is quite simple to dismiss this fool…apart from all of the personal stories of people over the time, including my own, these wca’s by atos have been in place…little box on sick note ticked by GP et al, “not fit for work”, symptoms presented tests done diagnosis confirmed, job done, the entire nhs now overruled by a 3rd party nurse…we are all diagnosed by the symptoms that we present and tell story of…without those symptoms the diagnosis fails, but with the current wca those symptoms and even ones actual medical diagnosis disappears…
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ps the man even thinks he is a sea turtle…but their is only one egg, and that is the energy egg, all disability, is caused in one way or another by the lack of access to energy…this lack of energy needs to be mitigated in one way or another, it is no good saying, “just make the effort and you’ll be running around in no time”, one cannot buck human physiology it will only allow one to, DO, certain things..disability means that one can not do, what those without disability can do…
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so my taxes are being spent employing this twat to promote atos.
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The actions of ATOS are indefensible, nothing more to be said. It’s documented and evidenced many times over. Only someone void of accurate information or who refuses that truth due to another agenda, would be fool enough to try!
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pps
the other thing he so conveniently overlooks is that the actual medical dispute is between the dwp and the nhs.. that the victim of disability is drawn into this dispute is plain wrong…if the dwp has a problem with medical facts it should therefore take it up with the medical providers..
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He’s a horrible little attention seeker who has publicly stated he would work for the eugenicist BNP if the price was right. No wonder he’s settled in so well at Atos.
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Hi Tom – If I ask you another question about a statement you made, will you discuss it simply and honestly with me? I promise I will not be negative without good reason!
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finkfurst..I promise I will not be negative without good reason!
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overburdenddonkey – If you want to say something plainly then please do.
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finkfurst..
i plainly posted on this subject..above..but for some reason you seem to want to be the judge of what is plain and what is not…why don’t you say what you want to say, you sort of,not quite almost, don’t need tom’s permission to say it..i’m eager to read what you have to say..or write even….
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I didn’t read what you wrote, only what Tom wrote, so I don’t have a question to ask you, only Tom. Sorry.
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finkfurst
i that case it is back to my intellectually stimulating movie…now what was spock saying…
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FinkFurst – I know I’m going to regret this – but fire away!
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Are you sure that your statement “It’s probably not all that surprising he’s defending ATOS, considering he’s employed by them” is true? If so, where did you get that information?
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finkfurst..
wot that he is working for them or that it is true because he is?
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FinfFurst – do you ever actually read the blog posts you comment on? There are links in the blog post to articles written by Simon Stevens himself. Read them.
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I did. Nowhere does Simon Stevens say that he is or was actually employed by ATOS.
[From Stevens blogpost: “And so, after making contact with the company, a few weeks ago I met with the Atos managers who are working on PIP. They have since shown interest in working with me, most importantly on a paid basis, on various aspects of their work, including their training and communication with claimants. I know many people will find the idea of working for Atos controversial, but to understand my decision it is important to understand my mission statement and what exactly being a consultant entails.”] – TOM
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Firstly, Stevens is a self-serving prat. Secondly, Finkfurst should, before he tries to nit-pick — Stevens is almost certainly not employed by ATOS, he’ll be on a much higher retainer or fee for service than a mere wage slave — it doesn’t alter the fact that he openly declares that he’s prepared to prostitute himself, provided the price is right.
But what crap he writes anyway, so it’s okay to cut off someone’s welfare if they don’t respond to letters/calls when they’re in a coma because they can sort it when they recover? This assumes that there is no negative impact in having their claim denied/delayed. What a little worm!
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Well, He would say That, wouldn’t He……
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Reblogged this on paultmillington.
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John T – It’s not just nit-picking, it’s the entirety of Tom Pride’s criticism! I wouldn’t disagree that Stevens writes crap, but apparently so does Tom.
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john t …by the info stevens provided he is/was a paid consultant of the said company, therefore employed by them..i do agree with the rest of your post..
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obviosly some people dident see the link tom posted.
http://disabilitynewsservice.com/2013/08/why-i-chose-to-work-with-atos/
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nuggy..and just in case people still overlook a key phraze, in his statement
“And so, after making contact with the company, a few weeks ago I met with the Atos managers who are working on PIP. They have since shown interest in working with me, most importantly on a paid basis, on various aspects of their work, including their training and communication with claimants.”
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Can’t any of you morons read????? – “shown interest in working with me” is NOT the same as “employed by them”.
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you dont seem to have read the words why i chose to work with atos.
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He might have chosen to work ATOS, but they apparently didn’t choose him! I’ll try to put it simply for you – Unless you have new information, HE IS NOT EMPLOYED BY ATOS.
However you look at it, Tom Pride made a false claim.
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Before you ask, I’ll tell you why it matters. Suppose ATOS had offered Stevens a contract, but they withdrew it because of something false written by Tom Pride. In that case Stevens could sue Pride for loss of earnings.
[Then I await a letter from his lawyers. But I won’t be holding my breath.] – TOM
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if you read the aricall it clearly says the did offer and he chose to except.
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funny he he hasn’t threatened to sue isnt it.
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I don’t understand what you’re saying!
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finkfurst…calling me/us morons will not improve my/our intellect…please explain yourself, so that we morons can grasp what your superior intellect tells you and that it allows you to see..i hope that is plain, because as i am a moron i am unable to ask any clearer than that..so sorry…
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http://disabilitynewsservice.com/2013/08/why-i-chose-to-work-with-atos/
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Yes, that link has already been posted at least twice. What are you trying to say?
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How do you know that?
[He knows that because he knows the first thing I’d do is write a blog post about it if Stevens did try to sue me. He hasn’t.] – TOM
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im simple trying to say that its very what he said to anyone who actuality bothers to read it..
as for sueing maybe i should ask him on twitter weather he willl or not.
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I’m very sorry, but your English isn’t good enough for me to understand what you mean.
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Perhaps you could write in your first language and maybe I could use Google Translate?
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nuggy
has everyone given up and plunged their heads..except 1, i suspect (but i only suspect it, even though i cannot prove it)..into a bucket of iced water?
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So is the gentleman in question working for Atos and receiving money or is he not?
Pat x
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well the arrticall clearly states is i think we could ask him to clarify on twitter.
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I await your reply then as I don’t do twiter.
Pat x
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It is perfectly plain from his own statements in the above article and elsewhere that he is NOT employed by ATOS. Tom Pride was and is wrong.
After reading some of what is posted on here…. ar$es and elbows come to mind!
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As a former trainer in equality issues including working with several disability equality trainers all I can say is this guy is a traitor and a cunt. There are others, disabled training consultants who occupy similar positions – look at Disabilty Alliance and their directors. They will sell other disabled people down the river apparently for their own good!
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FinkFurst – seeing as you seem to know so much about writing blogs , why don’t you start your own and show me how it should be done? I recommend http://www.wordpress.com – it’s free to start.
I promise I’ll read it. Probably.
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Tom – You’ve said that before, and (as I told you then) there’s a very good reason why I know what I’m talking about! Did you read what I said above about litigation? I’m offering your good advice, but it’s up to you whether you take it.
Remember – YOU are responsible for the truth of what YOU write, and as moderator in some circumstances you may also be responsible for the truth of what others write.
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finkfurst..?
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overburdenddonkey – If you’ve got something to say, then please say it plainly.
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@Tom Pride i came across this guy before when he set up a blog against DPAC disabled against cuts,,, now it explains itself thanks for that i will inform dpac well done tom….
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this bloke set up and ran a blog in order to discredit DPAC we didnt know why at the time but it looks like Tom has explained it all now….he was saying that DPAC were representing ”people with head colds’ and no serious conditions at all now we find he was no more than a front for ATOS utter bastard shows how low they will sink doesnt it?…
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you really are a lemon FF arent you….
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I am still waiting patiently to find out if this gentleman works for Atos or not.
Pat x
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er i think he does its called “Why I chose to work with Atos” the clue is in the title..
http://disabilitynewsservice.com/2013/08/why-i-chose-to-work-with-atos/
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You;d think so but listening to all the comments which followed you’d be forgivn for thinking otherwise. Maybe people like insulting each other?
I thank you sir for your prompt reply and r answering in the affirmative.
I can now confidently say – he worked for Atos.
Pat x
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@PAT thank you my life has a purpose after all (he said) ……
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Finkfirst – I totally get your very significant point. Far from being employed by ATOS Simon Stevens is an independent consultant and activist prepared (for a fee) to give ATOS and anyone who reads his blog the benefit of his opinions. The fact that he takes a fee from ATOS for doing this in no way makes him an employee of ATOS, nor does it compromise his integrity or independence.
Consequently, when Tom Pride puts in writing a claim that ATOS employed Stevens he is wrong. Either mistaken, or lying. That suggests, does it not, that Tom Pride is unreliable about everything else too? Your approach to undermining Tom Pride’s credibility shows subtlety and linguistic skill, so I am sure you know what a non sequitur is.
Which takes me back to what Tom Pride was saying. If a disability consultant regards cutting off the benefits of someone in a coma as a justifiable administrative procedure. then either they are a dickhead or they work for ATOS.
I don’t know anyone who’s come round after being in a lengthy coma, but I just have this suspicion that the last thing you’d feel like doing would be borrowing a phone so that you can get your mobile reconnected so that you can talk to an ATOS employee (obviously that wouldn’t be Simon Stevens) to explain that although you may well be fine now, and perfectly fit for employment, you’d like your benefits to be paid back-dated.
Especially when, if ATOS and the DWP had sensible procedures, before they cut off your benefits, they would have checked your notes, realised you were in a coma and rung the hospital to see if you’d got better. At that point, “it would be hoped,” “it could be sorted out with a phone call.”
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@angela whatever your fake name is stevens was blogging against DPAC a while back which makes him guilty as shit…
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Angela if you do a job for someone and they pay you, that person has EMPLOYED you , regardless of you being a consultant
This cunt worked for ATOS, this cunt was employed by ATOS
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Can we please, regardless of any past activity, stop calling Simon a Disability Activist? In allowing hom to retain that title, the current government can quote his views as being representative of the disabled and their carers.
His being employed by ATOS, in my eyes at least, means he has lost all rights to be described as such. He was not firced into employment with ATOS, yet his wirking for them places him in a similar role as the Nazi Concentration Camp “Capo’s”.
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The article is entitled I I chose to work for ATOS, he is a freelance “consultant” he is not an employee but they are a customer which is the same thing , in fact its worst beacause he can walk away and he could have not worked for them, instead of which he makes ill informed criticisms of USER LED CHARITIES there is nothing user led about his enterprise, he is just a business man sucking blood like anyother business man
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I doubte if sorting it out even when it bloody ovious that a mistake has been made is as simple as he claims. Why would someone who is so ill get called to a WCA in the first Place? they have records including letters from Doctors, do they simply press a button on a computer and churn out a letter which is sent out because you are on ESA? Probabably Yes, a phone call will not sort it out and what does this arsehole think you are supposed to do for food in the meanwhile?
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Finkfurst you are the MORON he is working on a free lance basis he is being PAID ok they are a customer not an employer but he is defending them bendrstaecause they PAY him is there any part of this that is too complicated for you to understand
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he has said he is a consultant, so he probably has his feet in both camps, ATOS/DWP. He probably has no concience, but he should not be calling himself an activist
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There is nothing Tom wrote that is crap? He is saying that Stevens is defending ATOS BECAUSE he is paid by them. If in fact he is paid by them(which HE says he is) then its ovious thats why he is defending them. The real question is where are you comming from Stevens strikes me as new labour but what your angle
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READ THE EFFING ARTICLE, CLICK ON THE LINK, I DID
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Steve
This is an excellent point he is NOT an activist he is in business to make money nothing else, but he could be quoted by ATOS DWP to underpin their case.USER LED CHARITIES(all too few of them) gives the game away, the information put out by DPAC and Black Tringle is now being used by the mainstream press who have reported many of the worst cases, so he is fighting a lost battle in his own cause
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He is what you would technically call a sub-contractor
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Right, if you call in a plumber to fix your pipes they may take an hour and write you an invoice . You have EMPLOYED them
It seems to me that to argue about the use of the word employed when it is ovious what Tom meant is just a ruse to divert attention from the main issue
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This man must be named and shamed to everyone for the dispicable cretin he is, and everybody should know that he is an agent provocateur not an activist.
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Most charities today are run by bastards, its hard to find one that can be trusted, the third sector is part of the commericial sector
I dont know any I would want to volunteer fos. Sad that
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“I’d work for the BNP if the price was right.”
Just about sums it up. Consultant prostitutes himself to the highest bidder.
Would 30 pieces of silver suffice?
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Lol =o)
He lacks the warmth, depth and charm.
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@harry rama lets not forget this little shit set up a blog against DPAC ..
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Too bloody right the Guff should not have allowed this far right greedster space, on a fortnightly basis too. I’e complained ad will continue to do so. Jeeeesuz!
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If ever I saw self worth jobs-worth with delusions of grandeur its Simon Stevens. I think he believes he should be knighted, such a modest fellow with so much experience who oozes kindness, just ask & he’ll help, for the right money mind. On the other hand most people see him for what he is as above & correct in their observation. I hope the man cannot breed as these narcisstist are everywhere & the world needs no more from the likes of him & his saintly ways.
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So,moving on down the line from when this was posted,is this the same man who has recently been unveiled as the head of N.H.S.England? According to the Guardian newspaper,he`s been working for the private health firm United Health in America for the last nine years.
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