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(not satire unfortunately – it’s the UKIP)
Unfortunately in these intolerant times, there’s nothing new about graves being desecrated by far-right extremists.
However, along with the usual swastikas, BNP, NF, EDL graffiti we expect to find among their familiar handiwork, there’s a relatively new tag turning up more and more.
The UKIP.
Here’s some graffiti left by far-right wing extremists on a grave yesterday in a cemetery in Newport Wales:
As you can see, below the BNP and above the swastika someone has painted the word ‘UKIP’.
More proof of what I’ve been saying for a long time now – that the UKIP are not in the least bit libertarian as they like to claim – they’re just good old fashioned far-right authoritarians who hate foreigners, Muslims, Jews, blacks, gays and all the other usual targets swivel-eyed right-wing loons like to blame for their own inadequacies.
What more proof do we need of UKIP’s extremism?
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Here’s the full story of the desecration from Hope Not Hate:
Muslim graves at Christchurch Cemetery, Newport, desecrated by racist vandals
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Related articles by Tom Pride:
UKIP activist calls Drummer Lee Rigby’s family ‘idiots’
Newly elected UKIP councillor in court accused of being a benefit cheat (not satire!)
The UKIP – under us thousands will lose their jobs and most will pay more tax (not satire)
UKIP candidate – physical exercise prevents homosexuality (no – not satire)
Nigel Farage, the Tea Party Godfather and the man who tried to trash the pound. Twice.
UKIP chairman – every UK city should have 1 or 2 ‘holding’ camps for immigrants
UKIP candidate – UK dinners flooded by criminal gangs of eastern European horses
If the UKIP is so bloody libertarian – why has it said nothing against secret courts?
The UKIP and a little matter of bestiality and necrophilia …..
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nearlydead said:
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nuggy said:
you dont know for a fact there ukip supporters untill you know who did it.
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nuggy said:
i mean if someone wrote vote labour on a gravestone would assume they were a labour party member or voter
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Tom Pride said:
That’s a bit of a piss poor argument nuggy. When have you ever heard of someone vandalising a gravestone with the word Labour? Or Lib Dem for that matter?
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guy fawkes said:
You will probably see it now Tom! The UKIPers will do it.
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Dean said:
Well I support UKIP, and you would be a are a fool not to these days.
Only because I feel the other mainstream parties have betrayed me and britain.
But that does not make me racist, indeed I would not support UKIP if I felt it did.
I believe many of these factions may feel unheard and unsupported or that their issues have been so poorly explained or managed, that with the rising interest UKIP has, they might just feel they are part of something that is popular. There are immigration issues in the UK but they are more relevant to numbers and open borders. Not an attack on any particular race or creed and is the general view I believe from all UKIP supporters.These people that say otherwise or vandal gravestones are just sad demented and misguided.
I actually pity them.
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jed goodright said:
naieve, at least ………..
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Sparky said:
Like a sermon to the good good fearing people of Rock Ridge. Amen!
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Aynuck said:
There’s no doubt that headstones in the run down city of Newport where Labour hold 37 of the 50 local authority seats were vandalised by racist vandals but to attempt to claim that the United Kingdom Independence Party ( UKIP) is somehow responsible for desecration commited by random malignant bastards is quite clearly ludicrous!
Are the left so afraid of the recent surge in UKIP support that they have to use such an infantile smear tactic Tom Pride?
Why only UKIP?
The initials BNP and the NF were also daubed on headstones along with what one assumes is supposed to be swastika symbol which besides being associated with the third reich is also widely used by Hindus.
I’m aware that there exists antipathy between certain Hindus and Muslims but surely you wouldn’t attempt to implicate Hindus with your silly smear campaign?
There are many issues which surround racism in Britain today, not least the self loathing type of racism directed at ordinary British men and women by unemployable Trotskyite morons, but if the left really want to begin to address any of these issues they will have to come up with something much better than the usual playground name calling which fools no one.
Grow up and learn to distinguish between natural concern at the unacceptably high level of unsustainable mass immigration and bogus asylum into this overcrowded country and real racism.
You ought to be ashamed to put your name to such an pathetic article Tom Pride, you’re not a Daily Mail wannabee in disguise are you?
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Matthew Vickery said:
Absolutely no surprise there. And Dean (commentator slightly above), no offence (which is always the prelude to potential offence. . .) but I cannot see anyone supporting UKIP unless they have xenophobic tendencies, and xenophobia is nothing but a blurry line away from racism.
Anyway thanks for the blog post, keep up the good work.
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Dave Harris said:
Utter rubbish. I support UKIP because I do not want to be forced into the Federal United States of Europe. It has nothing to do with immigration/racism it is purely based on one simple fact, the LibLabCon have lied and deceived our people into thinking the EU is a ‘market’ when in fact the aim is a federal state ruled from Brussels.
You will see next year when Jose Barosso roles out the plan to create a federal state of 28 nations (yes, that includes the UK) and this nation of ours becomes split into regions forever to be ruled by Brussels.
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Sparky said:
Why do Kippers inisist the Left are scared of them? They have polarised political opinions, yes, with one based on social and economic justice and the other on fear, prejudice and unwillingness to think beyond ones leafy cul-de-sac of a brain. Guess which one is which?
Clearly, the fear that is invoked by an annoying child-like Right wing political party must surely be felt by other Right wing parties, some of whose supporter’s attention is being drawn away by the attraction of joining in and behaving like fucking moronic idiots, most of whom cannot detect a split in the Right. But you carry on. You’re doing a great job.
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Sparky said:
Good. I can’t wait to have political power once so strongly held by so few, dilluted and redistributed under EU laws.
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Aynuck said:
UKIP supporters know for sure that the left are running scared by the amount of unsubstantiated rubbish such as that written above by Tom Pride which insinuates that UKIP supporters are responsible for the desecration of Muslim graves, an insinuation entirely without foundation.
The letters daubed on headstones are certainly meant as some sort of act of racist provocation by persons as yet unknown but there is no hard evidence which proves that ‘far right wing extremists’ vandalised the graves and UKIP are not extremists in any case.
UKIP have adopted some populist policies, that’s true, but populism represents ‘an egalitarian political philosophy or movement that promotes the interests of the common people’.
Neither xenophobia or racism have anything to do with legitimate concerns about unacceptable levels of immigration.
No political party other than the UKIP show any signs of halting uncontrolled mass immigration and bogus asylum into Britain and this unsustainable level of mass immigration is definitely not in the interests of the common people who already live here.
The growing support for UKIP reflects growing concern about the effects of uncontrolled mass immigration and bogus asylum felt by an increasing number of ordinary people, most of who live not in ‘leafy suburbs’ but in places where extremely high levels of immigration have begun to affect their standard of living.
If ‘fear and prejudice’ means the fear of losing your job and being unable to find another one because of the flood of cheap migrant labour, and prejudice against employers who exploit this cheap migrant labour to drive down wages and make working conditions harsher then you are correct Sparky.
What solutions to overwhelming pressure from migrants on urban schools do Labour have?
How about the lack of suitable social housing, the cuts in benefits while vast sums are given to corrupt regimes overseas, the breakdown in inner city hospital A&E services because they are completely overwhelmed by migrant patients who don’t speak English and who should be visiting GP’s but use A&E as ad-hoc GP surgeries?
What policies have Labour come up with?
More of the same, which is why ordinary people are turning to UKIP…………….
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Sparky said:
What utter crap. Your political argument and examples are straight from the chocolate box of easy picking. Populist ideas have absolutely nothing to do with egalitarian philosophy; populist political ideas are attractive, easy to envisage and consequently easy to sell. They have absolutely nothing to do with egaliatarianism. How, for example, is reducing taxes an egalitarian idea, when taxes help to support a society?
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Sparky said:
Xenophobia and racism has everything to do with UKIP exploitation of immigration. You have provided a number of examples of social and economic problems caused by immigration, for which you have no evidence. Your arguments exploit the real significant issues of the day, while blaming minority groups for the problems. You are sensationalist and hysterical.
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Sparky said:
Regarding the gravestones, you fail to make the connection that the perpetrators felt the need to ‘tag’ the graves with the names of political groups to which they aspire to be associated. They might not be members of UKIP but they’ll probably vote for you.
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Eplimish said:
What more ‘proof’? ….. er catching the culprit and actually determining that he/she is a bona fide & typical UKIP supporter as opposed to, say, an excitible moron with an aerosol who might for instance on other occasions vandalise a paediatrician’s house, as seems to happen in those parts.
I don’t like UKIP… their response to the EU and immigration does seem to be inspired by morbid paranoia mixed with semi-conscious xenophobia and consquently they may well attract the vicious thuggery to which you allude if it attempts to gain a respectible veneer. But this is not to say that there aren’t faults with the EU and immigration issues which need addressing to which support for UKIP is a perfectly understandable response, although an incorrect one in my opinion, if only for the reason that it’s better to be in the European tent pissing out…
So yeah, UKIP do worry me, but no more than some lefty using the logic of the kangaroo court in order to corral similarly wooly-headed opinion into his preordained ideological pens.
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guy fawkes said:
Neither xenophobia or racism have anything to do with legitimate concerns about unacceptable levels of immigration.
I agree with this statement by aynuck and think that both immigration and Europe need assessing by all parties, because neither issue is delivering what is in the best interests of the British people.
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guy fawkes said:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/may/17/exit-europe-from-the-left
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nuggy said:
good old bob crow.
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Aynuck said:
@ Sparky
Wow! Three replies for the price of one, I must be doing something right!
In reply to my earlier points Sparky wrote:
‘What utter crap. Your political argument and examples are straight from the chocolate box of easy picking. Populist ideas have absolutely nothing to do with egalitarian philosophy; populist political ideas are attractive, easy to envisage and consequently easy to sell. They have absolutely nothing to do with egalitarianism. How, for example, is reducing taxes an egalitarian idea, when taxes help to support a society?’
The points that I made may well be ‘easy picking’ Sparky but they reflect the unease of multitudes of British workers who are being replaced by East European migrant zero hours agency labour, many of whom are paid below the legal minimum hourly rate.
This is because certain employment agencies which maintain offices outside Britain pay their temporary staff via European bank accounts which are outside the jurisdiction of this country.
Self employed tradesmen here are also suffering, the cheap but unqualified Polish plumber is no myth and our tradespeople are being forced out of business by unqualified and unregulated migrants who undercut legitimate tradespeople. How much tax do you suppose that these unregulated plumbers and electricians pay Sparky?
Speaking of ‘the chocolate box of easy picking’ surely you would agree that the inference that UKIP bear responsibility in some way for the desecration of gravestones by vandals would come under the heading of ‘easy pickings’, except that only a complete moron would buy into such an inference.
Sparky also wrote:
‘Xenophobia and racism has everything to do with UKIP exploitation of immigration. You have provided a number of examples of social and economic problems caused by immigration, for which you have no evidence. Your arguments exploit the real significant issues of the day, while blaming minority groups for the problems. You are sensationalist and hysterical.’
There you go, I was waiting for the oft repeated battle cry of the ideologue of the extreme left who like to label anyone and everyone who disagrees with their unworkable idealistic clap trap as xenophobic and racist, or to assert that a socially cohesive preference to live amongst those that one has always lived amongst and in a way similar to how one has always lived is somehow wrong.
So what? It doesn’t mean a thing Sparky, the name calling and labelling by left wing extremists just won’t work any more, the game is up.
You don’t think that there are any social or economic problems attributable to mass immigration? Get real and ask people who live in parts of Lincolnshire, Yorkshire, the West Midlands and some London boroughs, and tell them to their faces that they are sensationalist and hysterical.
When you get better come back and let us know how they reacted.
Listen to local radio phone ins, the overwhelming number of comments on issues surrounding uncontrolled mass immigration are from people who would like there to be a moratorium on further mass immigration until at least our own economic and employment situation has improved significantly.
The telling point is that many of these comments expressing concern at the prospect of yet more mass immigration and bogus asylum come from listeners who were once migrants themselves.
Sparky’s final point stated:
‘Regarding the gravestones, you fail to make the connection that the perpetrators felt the need to ‘tag’ the graves with the names of political groups to which they aspire to be associated. They might not be members of UKIP but they’ll probably vote for you.’
And you can substantiate that idiotic assumption how exactly?
Are you suggesting that the vandal(s) who commited this vile desecration would actually participate in the democratic process by voting?
In the unlikely event that they do vote the chances are that in Labour controlled Newport they have voted Labour, where both Members of Parliament are from the Labour party and 37 out of 50 seats on the local council are held by Labour.
Incidentally, if the cretinous vandals do vote they will not vote for me, I’m neither a candidate or a member of any political party or organisation, but if I were a UKIP candidate I’d rather do without the votes of those who would try to create hatred and division by desecrating a grave, no matter who’se resting place was involved.
Hopefully the perpetrators will be identified and sent to prison where they belong and where, no thanks to Labours criminal loving Human Rights Act, they will forfeit the right to vote.
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Aynuck said:
Bob Crow is old school Labour and is one of the very few from the left who talk sense and has the balls to represent workers who are treated with utter loathing and contempt by the extreme left and by the Labour Party who have betrayed them
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guy fawkes said:
Aynuck
I don’t agree that prisoners should forfeit the right to vote. If they have committed a crime and are imprisoned, they forfeit the right to freedom without being denied the right to vote also.
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Aynuck said:
The trouble is, which constituency would they help to elect a candidate for?
Would a prisoner in Parkhurst vote for an IoW MP?
What would happen if the count was very close and the few prisoners votes swung matters? They wouldn’t have to live with the consequences.
Mind you GuyFawkes, I suppose that it’s just the same as someone living in Scotland electing Westminster MP’s from devolved Scottish constituencies.
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Sparky said:
Aynuck,
I can guarantee you the vandals are idiots and are stupid enough to vote for UKIP. Cast iron. Can’t really argue with your argument; can’t really call it an argument.
You miss the point entirely again regarding your tiresome bloke-down-the-pub xenophobic argument. You cite it as a Leftist battle cry, and then later use anti-foreigner examples to support your diminishing fading tiring age old argument. The irony is killing me.
Keep up the joly good work of splitting the Right’s vote!
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Loverat said:
I do not vote UKIP but am surprised they are being associated with this kind of thing. I do not know any UKIP supporters who would vandalise gravestones with swastikas. Anyone who did this are showing their support for the Third Reich the very thing we fought against and defeated.
The BNP and EDL are probably your culprits. These groups regularly insult the memory of British Servicemen who have died for their country and seek to exploit tragedies for their own ends. They also do not have a clue about anything which is why they regularly resort to violence and provocation. They are unfit to govern and unfit to be responsible human beings.
I don’t think it is credible to think that real UKIP supporters would do this. Some of their members are misguided, some on the fringes but most have fairly mainstream fews. Much like members of the bigger parties but if anything these people are more sincere about their beliefs.
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sciamachy said:
Reblogged this on Emergent Behaviour and commented:
I’ve often said elsewhere that the UKIP are crypto-fascists…
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rainbowwarriorlizzie said:
Reblogged this on HUMAN RIGHTS & POLITICAL JOURNAL.
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Aynuck said:
It’s you who is missing the point Sparky.
Neither UKIP or me personally are ‘anti-foreigner’.
The point is that I, and a large number of those like me including many of those who settled here in earlier years, firmly believe that further uncontrolled mass immigration has now become unsustainable.
I’ve nothing at all against ‘foreigners’ but we are so overcrowded that we are charged extra to enter city centres in our vehicles and England is one of the most crowded countries in Europe according to a BBC news report on the figures from the Office of National Statistics. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7618994.stm
Overcrowding has an adverse impact on our quality of life, and no sane person could argue with that.
According to left wing extremists like yourself Sparky, who obviously want to subvert and ultimately destroy society in Britain, anybody who expresses even the mildest concern about the effect of Labours disastrous policy of allowing uncontrolled mass immigration and bogus asylum is a foaming at the mouth swivel eyed neo nazi xenophobic racist.
Your puerile name calling dogma is grossly insulting to a compassionate and generous nation who gave to the world Christian Aid, Oxfam, Save the Children, Live Aid and who invariably are the first to put their hands into their pockets to donate whenever disaster or famine strikes down those less fortunate than us.
Our generosity and hospitality toward those who have been coming to live here legitimately since the 1950s proves beyond doubt that the British are not in any sense of the word ‘racist’ but the divisive policies of the extreme left have definitely begun to damage social cohesion in urban communities.
You may be correct when you state that UKIP are splitting the vote of the Right but you’d probably be surprised at how many ex Labour supporters feel betrayed by Labour after B liar embroiled us in illegal foreign conflicts against the will of the overwhelming majority of Labour supporters, and B ruin opened the door for the FibCon artists by sucking up to big business to such an extent that bankers ran riot and almost bankrupted our country.
This is even without Labour also sucking up to big business by allowing the world and his wife (and extended family) to settle here as a means of lowering wages and undermining the employment protection and working conditions which trade unionists had fought so hard for, because the labour market is now flooded with cheap foreign labour.
UKIP don’t need to win an election Sparky, the threat to the political elite has been such that the old discredited parties have desperately begun to ‘reposition’ already, so imagine the effect of just a few UKIP seats in Westminster with the threat of more!
You clearly have no understanding of the depth of feeling surrounding these issues Sparky, go and speak to the ‘tiresome bloke-down-the-pub’ if you can find an urban community type pub that is not boarded up or bulldozed as a result of Labours failed economic policies coupled with their nanny state smoking ban in pubs.
If you did find such a pub which was not deserted or trying to get by on serving meals until ten when it then closed, you’d be very lucky to find a a bloke who could afford to buy a pint.
Most of the erstwhile regulars are either unemployed or out during unsociable hours working for a minimum wage employment agency if they’ve been lucky enough not to be undercut on wages by sharp elbowed Eastern European 20-to-a-house wage slaves waved through by guess who???
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Aynuck said:
Yet more name calling and silly assertions from the extreme left which no longer has any impact.
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Sparky said:
Brilliant, Aynuck. Being Left of UKIP isn’t terribly difficult given the racist ground they occupy. For reference, see Andrew Neil’s complaints after being bombarded with abuse from Kippers following his Tommy Robinson interview. ****Waits for the Andrew Neil is a left-wing stooge bollocks****
So you’ve lost the ‘UKIP are an egalitarian party’ argument. You’ve abandoned the rhetoric where because Newport residents predominately vote for Labour, it is likely that the desecrators of the Muslim graves are Leftist loonies and not apparently right minded sane individuals drawn towards the racist groups EDL, BNP and UKIP. And as for the ‘blame the immigrants’ issue, you clearly suffer from cultural myopia. It’s condition common in Middle England where untreated symptoms of subtle racism cause outbreaks of Alf severe Garnet-like rants, while claiming not to be racist.
Now you’ve taken the heart-string approach, and provided as examples a number of charities which you claim have British origins, and to illustrate how much the British people care for less fortunate foreigners (as long as they are not in the UK, I take it).
An interesting choice of charities involved in locations where we as an Empire caused very much long term damage.
Live Aid. I’m not sure Bob Geldof, the Irishman, would be glad with a Kipper’s endorsement. Christian Aid are an Anglo-Irish organisation also involved in the climate change campaign. Not quite up UKIP’s street. Oxfam has strong socialist foundations (not forgetting the Quakers). I would have little doubt that when they started you would have dismissed them as loony Left wing interventionist. Save the Children were also a left of centre social reform charity. One of the founders, Dorethy Jebb, was married to the Labour MP, Charles Roden Buxton, who campaigned against the demonisation of German people after World War 1. Can you see where I’m going with this? Its that ‘I’ word again.
I wouldn’t be surprised if we were to discuss the UK’s overseas aide programme, that you would descend into the ‘charity begins at home’ avenue, thus negating any above discussion.
With the greatest of respect, if you are neither a member of any political party or organisation, and if you despise hatred and division, why are you defending UKIP?
By the way, you do know UKIP is funded by several rich individuals involved in the financial market purely to pull out of the EU and with it any taxation and other responsibilities they find unbearable?
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Sparky said:
Correction: It is cultural myopia myopia; i.e. you aren’t aware of your cultural myopia.
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Aynuck said:
@ Sparky
I love how you assert that ‘I’ve lost the argument’ because I don’t happen to agree with your particular brand of idiocy. The same dogmatic process leads you to believe that anyone who wants to call a halt to the levels of uncontrolled mass immigration favoured by self loathing Labour and their left wing extremist friends who despise ordinary working people is ‘a racist’.
When are you going to learn that shouting ‘racist’ to try to close down debate on unacceptable levels of immigration no longer works?
Andrew Neil is a competent political interviewer who tried to browbeat the EDL guy who clearly needs to learn interview techniques if he wants to retain any credibility when being monstered by hard nosed interviewers like Andrew Neil who does exactly what he is paid to do.
Would you care to expand on your insinuation that Andrew Neil received threats from UKIP supporters?
As far as I’m aware UKIP do not allow members of extreme right wing organisations to remain as UKIP party members, and if EDL thugs make threats there is nothing new in them and their equally obnoxious opponents who are extreme left UAF thugs threatening people.
Your ‘cultural myopia’ assertion is almost as highly amusing as your ill informed assumptions that everybody who has had enough of Labours betrayals over mass immigration, Human Rights, the banking crisis and the undermining of our labour market is from your ‘Middle England’, go talk to some real people, you might learn something.
I’m well aware of the origins of the charities that I mentioned, who do you imagine it is who donates the money that they send?
Unlike yourself Sparky I’m not an ideological zombie chanting the same old mantra time after time until it becomes as embarrassingly irrelevant as B.liar and Bruin are to the original Labour party.
Harrow and Cambridge educated ex Liberal who became an independent Labour MP Charles Roden Buxton’s well heeled wife co-founded Save the Children, and even though the families were very wealthy Labour activists and Quakers they were a far cry from the B.liarite travesty of betrayal, lies and spin that has created the climate of distrust surrounding Labour end their left wing extremist supporters. Charles Roden had the vision to see that the crippling reparations and the demonisation of Germany would lead to political unrest, which ultimately allowed the Nazis to gain power.
I wonder if the extreme left have anybody far sighted enough to realise that the current demonisation of the British by Labour and the extreme left is now leading to the unrest that your lot are so terrified of?
The Empire caused long term damage?
Go and don your sack cloth and ashes and get on with your self loathing in private, and leave the rest of us who don’t give a flying fart about your perceived ancestral wrongs in peace.
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sciamachy said:
Well, seriously, look at the grave-stones. Swastikas & UKIP sprayed on them? Plus we’ve seen UKIP councillors giving the Nazi salute.
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walshbouchard said:
Do you realize how idiotic that sounds ?
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