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MEENA’S FAMILY HAVE ISSUED A STATEMENT ASKING EVERYONE TO NOW RESPECT THEIR PRIVACY:
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Meena’s family are asking for their privacy to be respected. A genuine misunderstanding has been made, no thanks to the aggressively worded letter the family received. They will be pursuing the matter with the appropriate bodies and ask you all to respect their wishes.
Thank you.
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Pride's Purge 
Q: What have we become in this once great country that we turn our backs on people like Meena?
A: We are the children of Thatcher
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it breaks your heart…
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words fail me here shared
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I am so thoroughly ashamed of this government that I can barely speak. This case and the countless others like it need national publicity. A massive spotlight needs to be shone on the despicable world of ATOS.
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Oh God. Offscale.
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Maybe she could drop shitbombs on the members of the cabinet?
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and today i got my atos form …. wtf chance do i have when this poor girl is told to work …. scared is an understatement 😦
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*Hangs head in utter shame of what we have become*
How about we plug the bastards into the grid and Princess Meena can do the honours with the switch.
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Where did you find this?
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this is such a shocking story of the methods of ATOS, their masters at the DWP and Duncan Smith! It should lead to the instant termination of the ATOS contract, make this country take a look in the mirror and look what this ‘divide and rule’ let’s attack the sick, disabled unemployed..on welfare , has turned the country and some of the people into. They should feel shame!
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She’s not the first – and, sadly, she won’t be the last.
I’m trying to remember another – rather similar – case where a girl with similar disabilities (and of similar age, chronologically – and, I think, mentally). All I can recall is that her name was Ruth, and she was one of the first to be told she was fit for work. I THINK her mother was a social worker, or something to do with the govt/opposition (sorry, brain isn’t functioning too well today) and she was able to fight for her daughter – and I think she won.
Anyone know WTF I’m on about…?! If so, you’re doing better than I am at the mo – cos I sure as feck don’t!
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This poor lady is not the only one, in many cases people with severe conditions are considered fit for work..thats hardly a surprise when there are PRIVATE agencies who are all about getting ppl back to work even when they have been signed off sick..so, apart from being ill itself theres the period when they need to recooparate which is now being reduced..this industry is called ‘occupational health’ its quite lucrative..in one case a firm hires the OH company which advises the firm to fire people cos they are deemed ill..then also hired to advise sick people that are not really ill and should go back to work..Its money for old rope really.
One firm which advises on Occupational Health is called ATOS..you might have heard of them.
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Sarah I remember the case. You mean this one I think: http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/video/2012/oct/04/welfare-assessors-disabled-work-video
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@sarah actually i do know what you are on about.. as i remember the tv clip..i think it was a black girl who was disabled and her mother was speaking about it..if i am right..
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im Gob smacked just seen this on facebook beyond wrong
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I bet she could fold towels better than the previous towel-folder-in-chief did.
Actually ,this brings Britain to a new low. It cannot get much lower…..can it?
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I just hope that IDS one day burns in the same fires of hell as Thatcher
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She could run the DWP. She would probably be better at it than odious IDS.
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she can be the new queen of england
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it is a disgrace, I cannot believe someone could be so stupid or inhumane to expect this girl to find a job! one wonders how the person who deemed meena as fit for work, could ever have got a job themselves, as they are clearly not fit for their work!
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every chance….they are heartless….reg 19…reg 29….reg 35….black triangle campaign….get help from web to fill form in….use all of the time available to complete the form..don’t let them tell you what to think…take someone with you…note down your problems…make sure they hear you….even if they deny hearing you if you know what i mean….you can even record the med ass…don’t get hung up on what they expect of you but what you expect of them….
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Reblogged this on kickingthecat.
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They SHOULD feel shame, but they don’t.
They have utterly abandoned any remaining traces of human decency – I’m now wondering when they will bring in a revised version of Aktion T4.
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Reblogged this on euzicasa and commented:
Heart breaking!
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I’m lost for words
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I’ve just suggested (#jobsforMeena) that she could supervise Atos.
Her delight in shitbombing is clearly a vital, transferable skill.
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UPDATE: We have what could be a very important news story which has the potential of setting future legal precedent, to be released at shortly after 1am Friday morning. It cannot be released before this time due to a press embargo. Two words should peak your curiosity: Atos + Legal.
https://www.facebook.com/WelfareNewsServiceUK
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She could be an ATOS examiner, she’d probably do a better job than the current lot.
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Demand they record your medical assessment with the recording equipment. It can help you and also may help delay your assessment as they have hardly any piece of the equipment. Good luck xxx
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bottom feeders spit atos out.
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Meena could go into government, but no, I wouldn’t want her demeaned any further
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A government job would be fine, she has higher than normal IQ that fit’s their billing, especially a politicians job, maybe even Prime Minister??
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Prime Minister?
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Is it just me but what the hell is a shitbomb?
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Me too, I opt for Prime Minister. Sure, she will do a better job then the current What’s-his-face?
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Cameron was on news today and when asked about a woman losing benefit and mobility car and such, he simply said ” i can not comment on this individual case . and went on to say why they have to do this, fact is he dose not care none of them do. this is so terrible i can not see why people just let this happen and the BBC are not covering this issue like they should, but hey what do they care they only give the public drips and drabs anyway. god bless you Fahmeena i will share your story ATOS SHAME ON YOU
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i think this is absolutely UNREAL!!!!!!!!how the hell can a lady who is so disabled find or do a job???? its just NOT RIGHT.our country has deffo gone to the dogs….
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I don’t know whether to laugh or cry. I suspect the only correct response is WTF?!
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omg child labour is illegal so y is it ok for some one who has the mental age of a 3 year to work this country is shit
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WTF… I followed the link posted on here, all this blogger does is talk schmack. What klwon puts up a picture of a disabled child and writes allot of shit in the blog. This child hasn’t been assessed to work. Just a blogger causing schmack and using this poor girl … as a “sympathy’ pull to drag people into his/her own BS. Whoever you are, you should be ashamed. Child isn’t 30 years old for f sake.
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She should become an MP! After all they are quite fond of throwing shitbombs!!
What a bunch of *$@#’s
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totally gobsmacked unbelieveable
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Anyone says things like that they should be very shame of themselves. How about if this person was in our that person’s feet ? Saying things like that is just too mean . How can a person be just so mean sometime? That’s just so cold .
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Reblogged this on UK Feminist.
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(Sigh) follow the link to her sister. It’s all true. And yes – she’s 30.
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I’ve posted this on Atos’s wall, they’ll appreciate the chuckle.
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I’m amazed by how stupid these people are…they’re a joke, Meena should work for ATOS (she’d do a better job) or she should run to be the next female prime minister
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These stories must be pushed to the front of prime time TV .A hate campaign is being waged that is totally criminal under international Law .Foreign Embassies in the uk should be flooded with petitions and pleas for this atrocity that is being forced on the British Sick and Disabled to be exposed and those behind and taking part should be charged with crimes against humanity or do we have to throw our Dead into the Rivers and off our shores so the World Media can report it like when the Bodies began floating across the river borders in Uganda .UN WAS AWARE OF IT BUT WITHDREW AND ALL WERE TOLD NOT TO MENTION GENOCIDE . Here we have blatant acts of Democide and cruelty to create fear amongst the population and thus return us to pre WW servitude .
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i’ve not had a medical for about 4 years, since the shaw trust deemed me unemployable, even the job centre manager now, just phones me every 3 months or so ,,,, i’m one of those don’t look sick people …. with fibromyalgia …. i can’t make myself look sick, and if they don’t take any notice of things they can see, theres not much hope …. but thanks, i will try to get some help… will keep everything crossed, thanks xx
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I am absolutely gobsmacked at this!!!!!! Just unbeleivable!!!!!! This is just not right!!!!! This government is past words!!!!!!!
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thanks i think my son has a dictaphone somewhere, just in case they ‘can’t find the recording devices’ which i’ve heard before xx
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Try this link then: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BD9jw0QXzw
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Atos have decided that after 3 attempts of suicide And secure unit evaluation that im fit for work and now live on jsa when u explain to. people you have tried kill yourself are they really gonna give u a job and atos staff are not doctors but dictators and work for ids and a tick sheet
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So where are the government shills to comment on this? No witty responses? Oh, I wonder why?
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presumably something to do with shit?
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well said
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“as well as making shitbombs”??
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Some proof of this would be nice, it all just looks a little vague to me. I doubt they are that stupid to say she is fit for work. This just seems far too made up.
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@arthur ord thats the standard phrase now ” i cant comment on individual cases” they do that after broadcasting gobtripe propaganda attacking people who arent in a position to answer due to the severity of circumstances.
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presumably disrespectful and should probably be amended???
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Lupe – follow the link to Meena’s sister in the article. It’s all completely true I’m afraid.
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This is the legacy of the woman tories and mainstream media would have us venerate!!!
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This is one of the worst Atos errors I’ve ever heard although, to be honest , you’d possibly only pass their test if you were already deceased, Then again I’m sure they could find a good use for a cadaver. Maggie T will be going to her grave with a smile on her face knowing the work she started is being carried on by her disciples.
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The making shitbombs is from Meena’s own words – and her sister’s. It’s quoted with permission.
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@Lupe really??? are you talking about he same ATOS that assesses people who are fit for work who then a few weeks later drop down dead? silly me it must be that other atos then..
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Reblogged this on Johnsono ne'Blog'as.
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We should be knocking the doors of parliament in literally over this case.
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Shouldn’t they now be renamed TOSA?
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A shit throwing princess is just what they need in the house of lords. She could be then known as Lady meena shitbomb thrower and be paid 100 times the amount of benefit, but will be OK as it will be out of a different budget. XX to Meena.
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Perhaps Princess Meena could find employment within Atos? It is unlikely she could perform the necessary duties of this organisation any poorer than they already are. Indeed, brain damage and an inability to talk may help…
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this is disgraceful. who is your mp?
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Meena could do a great service for herself and others being subjected to Atos at Mrs Thatchers funeral where she could make good use of her shit bombs & attract attention to both hers & others plight so the World would hear her story and hear what crimes our Government is committing .
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Is this a news spoof site? And all the comments here are just buying into the “Onion-esque” content?
If not:
Seriously, someone tells you this, and you lap it up without asking for a single source of information other than “Someone told me”..
You didn’t once question the authenticity of this post?
You realise that you are the exact brain dead demographic that these parasite sites look for to popularise them, and convince you that you are being oppressed by a faceless government?
Wake up ffs..
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look at the link..
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Matt – The story’s all true. Follow. The. Links. And if you read the headline very carefully you will see it’s tagged – “not satire”. Can you read?
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Nothing surprises me anymore.
Who are these monsters in power? They are worse than anything that Thatcher brought in.
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I have read the post and see she is able to make shitbombs she may be eligible to get a position with the British secret service as a spy or international terrorist
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Of course, at the other end of the scale, there are many politicians and big business leaders alike who are certainly not fit to be in the jobs they’re in. But then, none of them would allow such ATOS style regulation up their end, would they….
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@matt nice try fuckface..why dont you sod off back to your ppl and wank off in front of a goat..
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ok, watch this, then you tell us if she looks like she can go and get a job
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I think this is sick 1 how wrong can you get 2 their isnt enough jobs for people with qualifications let alone making a sick women work whats next your going to make all disabled people do voluntary work maybe you should all sit down including government and give your heads a wobble you lend money out to other countrys and then say we are in debt the whole system is wrong put somebody in charge of this country that know what the public want not what people in the goverment think will give them a back pocket lump sum or a pay a pay rise i know i have gone off the subject but it is so annoying
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Yeah someone says “Not Satire!!!” It must be true eh?
Do a quick google for the girls name + ATOS, you will see that there is not a SINGLE source other than this kind of site for this “news” article
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All you folks blaming the present Government are miseducated. I was assessed by Atos under Labour and put through extreme mental hell.. this is not a new thing at all, it has just come to light more recently.
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Hold up people has an assessment taken place yet ? From what i saw notification of an appt had been received only. But hey why let the facts get in the way of a good story
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but in good news Maggie Thatcher has been declare fit for work
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At what point of that video does a horrible government agent appear and tell her to get a job?
I feel for her condition… yet I am glad she has the support and love from her family, but I find it deplorable that this story exists without any kind of real corroboration.
Because that means she is being exploited in the most cynical of ways..
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http://princessmeenadiaries.blogspot.co.uk/2012/03/and-then-i-made-shit-bomb.html?spref=fb
nobber.
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bombard atos s email an phone line til they stop this crime says me !!
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Yeah tom sorry, just saw that.
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Tim – this is not a party political point that’s being made. You’re right – New Labour were the first to use ATOS for assessments. Although I think the present harshness of their testing is all down to the present government’s instructions. It’s wrong whichever party is doing it.
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Here: https://twitter.com/bananarahmana
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@Arrisoned, Seems replies cannot go more than 2 levels deep:
Look at the other articles posted by the person that created this one:
Related articles by Tom Pride:
ATOS declare Richard III fit for work
ATOS to reduce ‘fit for work’ test to one question: “Are you alive?”
UK pulls out of 2016 Paralympics after ATOS declares no disabled in UK
ATOS assessor found blind woman fit for work after “wiggling his fingers” in front of her eyes
Toby Young – disabled children should be excluded from schools
Please have a mind of your own. You are just fuelling the problem and should really think about asking questions instead of following blindly…
The exploitation of this girl is in the hands of the people on this site, not the government.
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Come on.. Giving Twitter as a real journalistic source?
You are still in the realms of he said she said..
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Matt’s quite all of sudden..
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I’ve got a job for her. I’ll pay her to throw shit bombs in the government who appointed ATOS
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Like a guy with diabetic ulcers on his feet, has doctors certificates and ATOS says he can work. Stpped his benefits end of Feb hes now appealing. When he asked the assessor if she wanted to look at his feet she said she wasnt interested. How can she know more than the doctors that is signing the sick notes.Makes ya laugh…..what is this country coming to.
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Matt – it’s Meena’s sister.
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i wonder how matt is doing with his goat wanking? better than the bollox he writes on here..
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How can atos regularly get it so horribly wrong and still opperate. For a mistake of this magnitude i would be sacked from my job. Hell fire, for the bad publicity my mistake got the firm they would probably sue me.
No right-minded private firm would employ these half wits to do a god damn thing. How are they getting away with it, who is monitoring their awful efforts at assesment?
If its me as a taxpayer paying for this then i need whoever the fk is in charge at atos in my office FUCKING NOW.
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A good metric of how “civilised” a society is how it treats its those who need care. Appalling, shameful. Perhaps a job at ATOS with assessor as prime carer 24/7.
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Please make an official complaint about the individual ATOS assessor, they need to be prevented from doing this kind of work ever again. Maybe cleaning up shit bombs is more appropriate for them?
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I feel exactly the same here! Where has our once proud nation gone! Never known a government so predjudice as we have now!
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It says “assessed” towards the top of the story.
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that is a truly marvellous idea – she can wear pink, pretty crowns and be given flowers and curtsies all day long. And the palace staff can deal with her many needs. At least she needs her needs met. Which means their efforts would be worthwhile for a change.
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I am not “quiet” at all..
With the level of outrage that this is causing over this forum, I would have expected a report at least from ONE news source… Even the Daily Mail or the Sun would do!!
But no.. Facebook, Twitter, and other self publicising sites that manipulate social media to increase their meta-popularity ratings…
As there is not even one iota of reputable sourcing for this, I call it utter bullshit.
I wish the girl all the best.. I really do. But I hope her family are either blissfully ignorant of this campaign in her name, or seeking legal action.
I am trying to believe that they are uninvolved in this.. Because that would be a hell of a lot worse than if the report were true.
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Tom: Please prove me wrong, and I will join in the outrage…
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linda, i have similar problems….allodya hyperglesia…diabetes+ nueropathy+h.a.v.s. more blood supply problems than dracula…i just don’t want the b…s…..ds 2 get away with it….i hope i did not sound patronizing… i have almost stopped weeping…
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Yup; somebody who has no comprehension of what’s going on in the world – think Meena would be the perfect candidate; certainly no worse than the current incumbent.
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C’mon, give her a chance and give her a hand making her CV, help go through the jobs boards with her, find a nice cushy civil service job in the disability/welfare sector. Maybe get her a new outfit befitting of her 1st job application?
Then drop her off for an hour or so to make the application and let her potential employers get to know her better.
*and have a 3rd person covertly supervise her safety, perhaps recording the moment on a phone
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I also have fibromyalgia – I didn’t realise it was a condition that qualified us for assessment as I was told by my doctor we didn’t qualify for any benefits at all??
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If you;re so c;lever perhaps you could reread the 5th sentence on the article: “ATOS – in their wisdom – have assessed her and have decided that Princess Meena doesn’t need any benefits and she should go and get a job instead.”
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I have the perfect job idea for her! She could replace Cameron! I mean lets face it, she’d do a far better job than him, even with her illness. 🙂
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@matt the pratt toms said shit like this happened under the other lot..there are thousands who have been wrongly assessed by atos..most wrongly assessed appeal and win..there is videos of this lady there is stuff from her sister..but no..its all lies it must be a dummy and all made up..there are blogs dedicated to ppl who survive atos..only just…they are a resource and testimoney from the actual experiences of ppl…and the best you can do is post weak phoney arguments ..you need assessing..
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chewie must be a scapegoat…..
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I cannot find anywhere on the interent to see if this statement is true. where did you find your information as its not even on her Blog.
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THIS MAKES ME FUCKING SICK I am also disabled I have autism and the mental age of a 10 year old ARE THEY GOING TO TELL ME TO GET A JOB WITH ABSOLUTLY NO QUALIFICATIONS.I CANNOT BELIVE THIS AT ALL I AM GOING TO SHARE THIS.
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Can you prove that the assessment has happened? and that this isn’t anything less than hysteria inducing cynicism geared to get the moronic masses up in arms?
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i’m surprised your doctor said that, i think i’d be looking for a new one that believed in the condition, some still think it is in your head, it’s a hard struggle to get through, and depends how badly it affects you …. if you do decide to apply, get help with the forms …. i know a few people who get DLA with it but last time i applied i just couldn’t go through any more after 18 months of attempting to appeal and my appointments getting cancelled, me not being able to go to the appeal etc it made me even more ill …. i currently only get ESA .
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matt – contact her sister yourself. Follow. The. Link. Do you know how to click on a link?
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Reblogged this on Sociology + Social Policy = Sociopolocy and commented:
Don’t usually do two in a row from the same blog, but just… *shakes head*
There are no words.
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So have I and of course you qualify for benefits! You can claim ESA and DLA (before it vanishes). DLA is paid if you work, too. Also Housing Benefit, free bus pass and prescriptions, depending on income.
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@bobchewie: Ill repeat your one conherent reply here, as you seem to have a fixation with goats that just confuses me, so just to be clear to which post I am replying to:
@matt the pratt toms said shit like this happened under the other lot..there are thousands who have been wrongly assessed by atos..most wrongly assessed appeal and win..there is videos of this lady there is stuff from her sister..but no..its all lies it must be a dummy and all made up..there are blogs dedicated to ppl who survive atos..only just…they are a resource and testimoney from the actual experiences of ppl…and the best you can do is post weak phoney arguments ..you need assessing..
I do not in any way dismiss anything you say here. I would just like some proof that this has happened in THIS case as it seems extreme to say the least, and will be incredibly detrimental to EITHER side….
Could you imagine how these kind of campaigns would be received by the media if they were proved to be false?
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He’s very knowledgeable about the condition, and firmly believes it’s a real thing. Indeed, he thought it was a terrible thing that we didn’t qualify for benefits – he said it was the government not recognising it as a debilitating condition.
Apparently it used to qualify, but since the reforms it no longer is. He may be misinformed, I don’t know, but I’m just looking for work and hoping I can manage!
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huggggssss xx i’ve been crying most of the day ..of course you didn’t … it just sucks so badly xx
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Thanks guys – I’m definitely going to look into that! It’s a nightmare trying to get anywhere when you can’t walk too far!
And I’ll make sure to let my doctor know too, so he doesn’t give the wrong info to someone else.
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not everyone with fibro will manage to convince them that each day is a living hell, … same as not everyone with a brain tumour will, you just have to be strong but definitely you should apply … good luck xx
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Reblogged this on Peter Batt and commented:
Fahmeena can’t walk or talk. Any ideas on what jobs she can do?
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Read the whole of her sister’s Twitter feed (I have). Nowhere on it does she say that Meena has actually been assessed. She only mentions a letter, and a man wanting to speak to Meena on the phone. But no assessment.
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@matt that is so lame of you..must try harder…
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I also have fibromyalgia and you DO qualify for income and support allowance because i have just been assessed by ATOS and i qualify, phone your local welfare rights and they will help you with a claim.
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Reblogged this on in gentle poetry savagry lay asleep.
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She should run for MP, she’d could do a better job than than the 650 we have put together.
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Tom, I am not the one disseminating this information… the onus of proof is squarely on your shoulders… If you stamp your name on this, take responsibility!
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ps i attended 8 med ass…when i got there i was turned away…2 await re summons…cited staff shortage….really pull the other one…i know what they are like!
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this is a fake story it only exists here on this site and the links to this page shared on social media, Another thing that gives it away as a fake story are the lack of Surnames. this is nothing more than a blatant lie used to get people to visit this website.
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erm … matt, I take responsibility every time I post an article. The libel laws in the UK are truly scary.
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Steve – I presume you’ll be willing to make me an apology when the story is proven to be true?
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you do still have to convince them yvonne … just because you have fibro is not a guarantee, because you may still have to go through appeals ….so before you take it on, you have to be sure you can cope with it … it’s not cut and dried unfortunately 😦 my aunt recently had her DLA taken away …. she has fibro, and is full time carer to her husband who had a stroke last year … so you have to be prepared … some areas of the country may also be better than others xx
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There have been statements given by former Atos employees to the training and there was a television report showing clearly that Atos employees are told to find clients fit for work despite their condition and are warned and closely watched if they do not . Employees now have had to sign the official secrets act to scare them into silence .I believe this is just the thin end of the wedge that will create the fear that will empower the Corporate sponsored MP’s to reduce the minimum wage ,remove piece by piece the need for any contractual obligations by employers .Force people who can afford it to take out private insurance for illness , disability & medical treatment . Reduce the number of treatments by Hospitals to Basic Emergency unless having personal cover & eventually only pay unemployment benefit for a short period after which you will get nothing .Public places will begin to fill up with homeless and destitute until finally under the guise of providing shelter people are moved into Camps where they will either work or perish. Would never happen ? it did in 1930`s Germany and in by the British in South Africa to the Boers.
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@steve fake story with fake people with fake conditions with fake names saying fake things…along with thousands of other fake people with fake conditions being fakely assessed going through fake appeals have fake results…posting their fake experiences onto fake blogs produced by fake authors …….steve (if thats you real name) you’ve made yourself look stupid…unless you are faking it..
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matt
w.c.a.— got a pulse when one gets to med centre = fit for work
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This is the bloody problem with Atos. HOW and WHERE do they draw the line when we have people like Professor Stephen Hawkings who can work as a physicist and cosmologist just by using eye movement how can anyone be deemed as unable to work? This is in no way a dig at Professor Hawkings whose case is admittedly unique but if he can hold such a high pressure job with his high level of disability there’s not much hope for anyone to be deemed in need.
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Indeed! All the more reason to corroborate the story and dig it out of the realms of libel…
Look, I know I am responding in a negative way to this story, but I am not in a habit of accepting things at face value.. And also, more importantly, if this DOES turn out to be hyperbole, it will do a lot of damage to the causes of the people that are genuinely being affected by these ATOS assessments.. (some of my family are in this position)
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Meena’s sister on Twitter has just stated that it’s an assessment by form not by person.
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@steve also discussed and debated by fake MPs in a fake house of commons at fake length..the only thing that is fake is the person brought in to scrutinise the atos wca..fake because his credentials are at odds with the job..
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steve…it would be once bitten twice shy in that case….
.it could be one of atos’s cruel mind games…i would not put that past them…
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And presumably open to appeal? which would involve the cessation of any action until such a time that the case could be reviewed by a person that would have to visit in person?
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Look, just because it says on this blog that she’s been assessed, it doesn’t mean she has. Even her sister hasn’t said she has actually been assessed on her Twitter feed. This won’t get taken up by the papers because, er, it hasn’t happened.
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What was she claiming? DLA or ESA? ATOS don’t access ability to work, she should just claim DLA as ESA is just for people who have worked and cannot do so for an estimated period of time, and plan to return to work. If you have a lifelong or extended/ongoing disability or injury then you cannot expect to claim ESA it’s not the right benefit for you, DLA or PIP is.
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Sadly the NHS seriously needs to consider euthanising the severely disabled at birth. Their quality of life cannot be guaranteed, and their care costs a great deal of money.
A controversial viewpoint, but one that must be considered.
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ATOS don’t access ability for work in terms if DLA/PIP I meant
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Don’t say ATOS are still giving their lack of morphine enhanced medical checks again, haven’t hey already killedoff enough people?
On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Pride’s Purge
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@mark dragfucknose why dont YOU apply?? you seem pretty keen..
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@ellie then why are they going to so much trouble to assess people for PIP..DLA is ending so they use PIP which means assessment from atos/capita now then its the same game as wca ie to remove benefits so.without that support then what? wait oh yeah its ‘get off their lazy arses and find work”..ah that one no wonder it sounded familiar.
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@matt oh just fuck off..you were calling ppl on here morons..you and steve are fakes….
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I get the feeling Bobchewie is the Mr Hyde to Tom Prides Dr Jekyll!
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I have arthritis in my knees back hip pelvis and many other places when I broke bones as a motorcyclist and from various other accidents and was assessed by atos . What a joke I was sent home when I mentioned brain damage as the assessors were not qualified , on my second appointment I asked the alleged doctor if he had looked at my medical records he said no asked me to stand up lift my arms and then legs the only limb I could move fully was my left arm then asked a couple of ambiguous questions whereby any answer could be misinterpreted to suit the asker . I was informed 2 weeks later that I was fit to work and my benefits were reduced I appealed .Nearly 12 months later my appeal tribunal which I had to attend alone but there was the presiding judge, a doctor ,the usher and myself there I was allowed to fully explain my medical condition the chronic pain the difficulties I have to overcome just to live day to day, the doctor asked a few questions which I answered…I was then asked to leave the court . 5 minutes later I was asked to return where I was presented with 2 sheets of paper and told that my appeal was proven and that my benefits would be re -instated and backpaid .What I would say to all who are waiting or have been wrongly assessed is appeal and please try not to worry the usher did tell me that most appeals are successful it is only the obvious who are not . good luck and god bless you all ..
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if you are eligible for DLA you are often eligible for ESA and HB as well
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i get the feelling you are a twat…matt the twat..
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jan….their stock reply is….anyone one need will get out unconditional support…
just remains to be discovered what they mean by support…the floor…offers support when one falls on it….does it not? .
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when I read Dragilcevics words i felt sick. But when you get morons spouting filth like that, to realise how ATOS can function. The reality is that a fair system would have taken one look at Meena and decided right there and then, that there is no work this person could ever do and then make sure that she & her family were reciept of all benefits and assistance. The reality is that ATOS do this because they get a cash payment for every person they review. Our most vulnerable & disabled people are being treated like a cash crop by these vermin.
The politicians are silent because they are powerless, having given ATOS a long term contract to harvest the vulnerable in the UK. They are such spineless wretches not worthy of your respect let alone your votes.
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@Bob, look I appreciate you trolling efforts, but they really do nothing but harm anything approaching reasonable debate.
I tag people with the word “Moron” when given very sparse information, their views are immediately shifted to that of the author, with zero interaction with their own psyche, personality or ideologies.
This is how politicians succeed. And this is how scaremongering media outlets succeed…. Its just a hop between sides of a fence.
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ps i mean “our”not “out”…i have trouble controlling my fingers at times…
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@matt the only troll on here aint me..
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I’m 19 years old, have high-functioning autism and ADHD and usually live in Fenwick with my mum and stepdad, although I sometimes live in Newton Mearns with my dad. I plan to get a job at HMV in Ayr.
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I guess its just a matter of perspective… Goats notwithstanding 😉
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why cant the government or national health help her? they have a responsibility for people who are in need. How can they say something stupid like get a job. give her support. what can she do? ?????…..they should provide to give her something. dont ruin her quality of life. she hasnt done anything wrong. or give her somethig to give meaning or purpose. be humane…..
Its their job to think of, come on. dont do this to her.she has rights too. we are meant to be a civilised society. Please
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She could work for ATOS.
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i to used to think this….but one must know his career path to understand this….he was already highly qualified before he got sick….and adapted to it….planned…his path…knowing he was or would be body locked…
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Well…as far as whether she has been assessed or not they will have access to her medical details and one can only assume that whoever actually read her file is A)beyond the normal level of ‘its more than my jobs worth to actually make an informed decision here B)arrestingly lazy/stupid/complacent.
My mother has parts of her hands missing amongst other very difficult and extremely painful conditions….perhaps they think her digits will grow back? Apparently the physio therapist (woefully inadequate to the task of actually assessing someone with multiple medical conditions including but not limited to permanently open ulcers on the wrist, fragments of splintered bone exiting a permanently open wound in the knuckle of one finger, ruptured tendons in the right wrist and a left wrist that has been broken for over four years and will not ever heal) in charge of assessing my mother is of the opinion that her health is at no risk from being exposed to unknown stress, sources of infection and repetitive strain. Marvellous. To say ATOS is a joke would be a vast under statement. To say they are a direct threat to the health and well being of a huge number of extremely vulnerable people is more accurate…also, lets bear in mind; it could be any one of us at any time in the very same vulnerable position.
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Rather than engage in sensible debate on a controversial topic, you choose to throw insults. That makes your opinion utterly worthless.
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@mark blahblah ‘worthless’ a bit like these severly disabled people..you didnt answer the question i notice..
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Interesting because I have asked exactly the same question on Facebook about my own daughter who is shortly to be assessed for work capability. She is a lifelong wheelchair user who can’t stand or even sit unsupported. She has no use of one hand and very limited use of the other. She has a profound learning disability and is severely autistic. She is doubly incontinent. She cannot cope with any kind of change from her established routine without becoming so agitated that she self-harms. As a result of self-harm she is permanently blind in one eye and has partial sight in the other only because surgeons battled to save the sight of the eye after she blinded herself in that one too. Even having to write all that is distressing to me – and I’m going to have to fill it all in on a form for some DWP representative who will just see her as another benefit statistic and have no concept of the delightful and intriguing human being that she is. If she then gets summoned to a work assessment I don’t know how she will deal with the stress. Heaven help our country.
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I’m with you here matt…seems almost too ridiculous to be true. People just BELIEVE anything these days, especially if it is the favour of their own prejudice.
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@rosbayeswriting thats very sad for you sorry..but you have that right..the ‘why should i pay for others to have health care/education/breathe air/exist..thats what we’ve been left with and thats bloody tragic…
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I suggest we make her chancellor of the exchequer.
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then there were three…..my oh my…
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carry on screaming
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Well I have already suggested Prime Minister on the grounds that she couldn’t do a worse job than the present one.
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So Slamdog – are you calling Meena’s sister a liar? There’s a link to her in the article. Or do you think I’ve got a mate to pretend to be her sister or something?
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The reason ATOS are so arbitrary in their treatment of people and so lax in their assessment is due to the enormous sums of money they are receiving f or every person that is referred to them and successfully placed in work. That really is all there is to it; its about money and that is it. Its costing a fair whack just to implement the new ‘system’ but (and I don’t know my figures on this one sorry) they are getting more than a grand for each successful placement. It is a vile, abusive, inefficient and has already resulted in fatalities.
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Dont be too harsh on Matt. His questioning of the source is valid – this could all be a set up. However, as diaryofafaker subsequently pointed out, this ruling was an assessment by form. The mere fact that ATOS are allowed to do assessments by form that have a lasting effect on vulnerable people is plainly wrong. How can this have been allowed to happen? Dreadful state of affairs.
I imagine she will get the money lost back. Eventually. It will no doubt take months which puts additional stress on her family who are most likely already coping in challenging circumstances.
Thanks Tom for writing the blog. These things need highlighting.
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Tom, I don’t know the woman, so no I’m not calling anyone a liar. I would like to see more proof of this. A scanned copy letter etc, ‘cos this shit ain’t done over the phone.
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@donkey i do that every day..:) btw where do they find these twerps on here ..wonder if it pays well..from what i heard it depends on whos paying..
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bobchewie, just fuck off with your inane non value added comments.
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So contact her sister. Or are you worried it might just prove to be right and you’ve been trying to defend the indefensible?
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Everyone should make full use of the appeals system and I suspect record numbers of appeals will be successful, thus wasting shedloads of taxpayers’ money – but the real cost is the incredible distress this is causing to disabled people and their families.
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yes you are doggy..
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Sadly, anyone who has any experience of Atos doesn’t find it at all hard to believe.
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@ Matt, I can’t be sure whether this story is true or not but I certainly wouldn’t but it passed ATOS! I’m very amused that you quote ‘Toby Young – disabled children should be excluded from schools’ as an example of the fact that everything else on this blog is satire as if you read this story you would find a link to the spectator article where Toby Young does imply this! It’s always a good idea to check your sources!
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@TOM so er um so i get ‘worthless’ and ‘non valued’ haha……that tells you something…
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ceausesua..
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you got that right claire..am seeing this almost on a daily basis..
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Proof Tom, proof…I doubt that will come no matter who I ask. Should be presented with article tbh..
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@tom you know what i seem to remember a long debate in HOC about atos. some of the testimony was gut wrenching..and hey..it was coming from BOTH sides of the house..but then maybe it never happened and it was all a dream..
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thank god! someone else noticed. she’s obviously in al qaeda if she makes shitbombs. SHITBOMBS. READ the article THOROUGHLY before commenting people. This is the true shame in the world, that there are people stupid enough to overlook the phrase “making shitbombs” and still think there is a shred of truth to this.
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i’m not often lost for words….but why mark don’t you get off of this post…ie get lost!
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am wondering why MR CREWE is on here?
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@donkey the ppl who go on digital spy have got nothing to do atm so they show up on here..
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I wasn’t citing sources to discredit, merely highlighting that from the first couple of lines of the blog there was enough to warrant a deeper look.. Something that I found flagrantly missing from the knee-jerk reactions posted here.
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There are two verifiable links in the article to the family. Use them if you want proof.
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I read this and am in total disbelief. I pray that when UKIP take on the pathetic idiots who brought ATOS into their evill plan will find a realistic way to weed out the malingerers. we all know there are lazy people claiming allsorts but this is just one of many i have heard about. its time to get rid of the overprivilaged spoilt greedy lot that are in the house of commons and put someone with balls in. Nigel farage will put some common sense back into the overpaid idiots who are feathering their own nests
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Sounds like a dodging of culpability to me…
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@TOM some of the bollox on here is cut n pasted from DS site..what a give away..
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they cut one off and call it “personal empowerment….or independent living…taking control of one’s own life…” that IS how they “HELP”….dump the responsibility on the sick for their sickness…
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This article seems to have rattled the right wing trolls, most likely pretend ‘working class’ people tricked by the Tory party in thinking cutting benefits somehow makes your life better.
The sheer lazy fecklessness highlighted in these comments by bobchewie/Slamdog who can’t even be bothered to obtain the evidence if they need it, ask for it, from the source, is a pathetic show, trolls.
Bet you’re not saying this about Dail Fail printing bullsh*t about connecting Philpott with social security though right? they had zero proof it had anything to do with benefits, but when you complain they simply say “what the left don’t understand is blah blah made up Tory line bullsh*t”.
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or drive hgv’s…work down the mines…
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yeah and ppl copy comments from other sites word for word explain that shit..
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Bob, not quite sure what your angle is here…
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Possible job for Princess Meena would be as a cabinet minister. She will do a lot less harm then the vicious idiots who are currently Ministers of State!
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I think that rather than being on shitty ‘benefits’, she should get at least minimum wage for being such a smiley looking, lovely lady who has made me happier than all the money in the world- by her smiley look, gorgeous taste in clothes, sisters love and for wanting to be called princess. I don’t think the gov. care about humanity- only what makes them money and they can use for capitalisms gain… but capitalism is not a human being- it’s just a stupid ideology that hurts real humans. therefore real humans need to love other humans and not some stupid idea that’s going to hurt human kind. xxxxx
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@jet..thats so funny…well it made me laugh…
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Tom, I can’t see links to anything other than a Twitter feed and the blogspot thing. I’m not a troll but I’m not a sheep either. Link me to the proof that this has happened. @Jet you total nob, I grew up in a council house in Wythenshawe, South Manchester with just my mum…so don’t call me pretend working class you cunt..you don’t know me.
[Slamdog – The twitter feed is Meena’s sister’s personal twitter account. That’s better than a phone number. Ask her sister yourself if you don’t believe me.
There is a link to Meena’s own blog (written by her family on her behalf obviously), and a link so anyone can contact her sister personally via Twitter. There’s also a photograph of Meena herself. What more proof do you want? -Tom]
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i pretend to be working class every day..keeps me off the streets .’blimey no wot i mean top hole guvnor’.what ho..
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the only thing i did not believe was atos when thet found me fit for work
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@donkey OMG you dont think that ATOS would lie would they surely not..
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Yep, stereotypes. How racism starts.
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Should this story be true and this unfortunate lady HAS been assessed in person and not just by forms, then I suggest emailing or getting in touch with Newspapers and news channels ASAP. If this is a credible story then they will be sure to lap this up faster than you can imagine.
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haha…..
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@Slamdog – right, and where is the proof? don’t believe you, sorry, jog on.
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I don’t have to prove anything, I’ve not some faux journalist.
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Jet I think you meant to include Me in that rant instead of Bob….
I am very much working class.. I will not bore you with the details other than to say that living through the grace of the homeless families department in the mid 80’s was one of the lowest points of my life.
I find your insinuation that I am right wing because I ask for proof from the accuser hilarious in many ways…. However I will just leave that point right here, suspended on this page as a testament to the opposition I have faced by merely asking someone making these kind of claims to back them up with substance.
And bringing Philpott into it really is the final nail in the coffin of your argument, as at not one point have I mentioned benefit worthiness or the social impact on families being brought up on benefits.
If you must know, I find it equally as pathetic when these tabloid rags try to attribute benefits to a particular way of life, or persuasion to a set of behaviours (Alcohol, Drugs etc..) as when they try to attribute violence to computer games or music..
If being brought up on benefits and living on a council estate was the roadmap to ruin, then I really have no right being a First class university graduate (every penny of it paid by my own hard work) in a well paid job.. How dare I buck the trend of the working class eh?!
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Cant trust the internet . This cant be true So if I see proof without having to go into various web pages then I’ll belive
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I do make typos before you wet your lefty pants at the mistake. However come meet me at the Newalls pub in Newall Green, Wythenshawe. Can’t say fairer than that as proof?
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coz that is what they are paid to do….£250/£500 per booted out claimant…i hear…correct me if i’m wrong…? who needs targets…only on the victims back i suppose!
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of course not chewie…i hang on their every word….or i’m hung by their every word…can’t quite up my mind….but as you know they please to aim…
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Nigel farage is one of them if you look below the surface.
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@guy fawkes allo guy..how are you? apparently im worthless..and have no value…aint that nice?
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http://welfarenewsservice.com/atos-in-2k-disability-discrimination-settlement/#.UWdP8krK34U
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The collective of vicious incompetent children that is ATOS terrifies me as I await my reassessment. I have aids, three cancers, peripheral and autonomic neuropathy and am on many drugs including high dose morphine. I was given dla for life. They. believe I should stack shelves. How exactly?
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@lynda well thats interesting thing is its peanuts to those ratbags..who are totally useless as feck and trained to hate the disabled..
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have a body transplant?
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@jawhol mein freund they also do their training ‘in house’
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@tom pride….apparently im not me either, i dont mind that as i could do with a day off..
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The first time I got an ATOS form through the post (the second came last month.. despite being placed in the Support Group, looks like they’ll be sending me a form every year until I’m either “better” or dead) I was an inpatient on a closed psychiatric ward, drugged up to the eyeballs, half way through a course of ECT. Unsurprisingly, I don’t remember what happened in that instance. This time though, I’m lucid enough to be quite terrified. If ATOS can find Meena “fit for work” I dread to think what they will find me fit for (the Olympics, perhaps? Or maybe 10 years in a workhouse/labour camp, paying back all the government money I’ve greedily scrounged over the course of my imaginary illness.)
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People like Princess Meena are EXACTLY who the benefits system was DESIGNED to help. This is so damned disgraceful. I hope some kind of sanity prevails and the beef-witted idiot who made this assessment loses his job over this and she regains her much needed assistance.
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Perhaps you think that “shitbombs” was a typo for “Shi’ite bombs”?
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Sad situation its obvious this woman is not capable of holding down a job, we have to take care of those who cant take care of themselves, what a shame
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What a load of crap. I suffer from aspergers syndrome which is mild autism and iv never been forced to go find a job. And if i did then it would be my own choice to. No way can they force someone serverly disabled with the mental age of a child to go find work. Come on people use ur brains. Im disabled n im not even that stupid jeez
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ATOS – in their wisdom – have assessed her and have decided that Princess Meena doesn’t need any benefits and she should go and get a job instead.
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What seems to have been “made up” was your display of utter ignorance, but the process is indeed a bit more complex than some boorish berk at ATOS simply saying that Meena was “fit for work”.
Just as with the blank rifle round said to be issued at random to one member of a firing squad, so the responsibility for WCA “mistakes” is conveniently divided so that neither the ATOS “assessor” nor the DWP “Decision Maker” is solely to blame.
The “healthcare professional” (who could be a registered bone-jerker, a former dentist or a semi-senile and never entirely sober registered GP) compiles a report using a computer program originally written for UNUM to deny insurance claimants’ disabilities. The report will generally downplay any disabilities the claimant may have, whilst being remarkably inaccurate – it has not been unknown, for example, for a paraplegic claimant who lived in a ground floor flat and who used a wheelchair, to be “quoted” as saying that they had no difficulty going upstairs to bed. That example was all the more remarkable as the “assessor” had visited the claimant at home.
The report is subsequently sent to an utterly unqualified “Decision Maker” at the DWP who, on the basis of the farrago with which s/he has been presented, actually decides whether or not the claimant is “fit for work”. The “Decision Maker” is supposed to consider any other medical evidence, but this is often either ignored or just mislaid.
Thus, both the jerks at ATOS and the berks at the DWP can sleep easily at night, secure in the belief that they have been “only obeying orders”.
As did, for that matter, the guards at Sobibor.
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No.
We should be knocking on the doors of Buckingham Palace and demanding to know what Queen Brenda is doing to stop such abuses.
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She should be a social media example of ATOS’S stupidity. For this service, ATOS should pay her £1000 every time this story is shared. That should serve as a constant reminder to them not to make such daft decisions.
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One can only conclude that matt is determined to prove that he is utterly unfit not just for work, but also to be a member of the human race.
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What on Earth is happening in the UK? It sounds like US ultraconservative social darwinists have hatched out of their eggs on the Thames
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That’s not quite accurate.
Despite the grossly deluded assertions by Iain Duncan Smith (whom you will doubtless recall is a proven liar – he did not attend Perugia University) that Incapacity Benefit claimants were not checked from time to time, claimants were actually required to undergo reassessments every few years. The company contracted to perform that work was Sema Healthcare.
See the timeline at http://www.whywaitforever.com/dwpatosbusiness.html
In 2001 Schlumberger bought SEMA for $5bn. The company was renamed as Schlumberger SEMA.
In 2003 Atos Origin bought Schlumberger SEMA.
In 2006 Atos and Unum worked on the new proposals for Welfare Reform.
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Reblogged this on The Diary of my Insomnia.
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This is truly awful, and we should be ashamed to be citizens of an uncaring, callous nation. Thankyou, Tom for drawing this to the nation’s attention, I hope there is an inquiry, and apology and compensation. I hope this awful government steps down as soon as possible. Governments exist to protect their citizens, not as an optional career path for politicians and I don’t see anyone protecting Meena. What can we do? Praying never helped anyone. Right wing parties like UKIP are not the answer. Glenda Jackson’s angry words in the Commons this week demonstrating that there are some people with compassion who care about others. I know so many in the country feel the same. I hope to live long enough to see a caring, compassionate, courageous, civilised country – indeed world. Let’s care for each other, let’s care for the vulnerable, the ill. Let’s share.
The alternative died with Thatcher.
Tom, you are superb.
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I think it is quite obvious that Princess Meena is over qualified to be a Member of Parliament !!!! Someone should put her up for election – she would win in a landslide!
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“It’s Thatcher wot did it.” Don’t you know?
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Yes Reagan’s dear friend from the 1980s.
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Yes. Time the current lot went. Let’s replace them, with 600 Glenda Jacksons.
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Appeal against the decision.
Same result happened for my mum, they appealed and the ATOS decision was overturned.
Good luck!
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I can totally believe the story. I’ve had major surgery on my back, am waiting for a 6th, and atos think I’m fit for work, even tho 3 doctors have told them I’m not, the appeal system takes 6 months and then you get an answer stating theres no medical reason for why I can’t work, apart from the opinion of 3 seperate doctors which they have ignored. Half the people on here have had nothing to do with atos, you try living on peanuts and being called a liar by a company that has no idea how to properly assess people
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As a GP I can tell you this is happening all over the country, I’m surprised it hasn’t hit more papers yet. I have seen similarly disabled people be told they are fit for work. This is real I’m afraid.
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Matt is right to question this. I cannot find any reference to a source in the article.
It may well be true, and I don’t trust or like ATOS.
I also don’t trust the government and despise their policies.
Just that sadly there are so many many hoaxes and lies on the internet, that the only way to have credibility is to show rock hard sources.
Copy of application form, copy of statement from ATOS, link to related article on BBC, The Independant, or The Guardian, failing that even a link to the Mail, or The Sun would add credibility. Odd isn’t it, that I am still more ready to believe the press than any blogger. Sorry. No offence intended I assure you.
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Olli – there are TWO links to the original source in the article – the woman’s sister and the woman’s own website.
How much verification do you want?
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ATOS started assessments on 8th April in ‘some areas’…..to have a result by the 11th, now that’s impressive……..8th send form out, 9th return form, 10th get a result. Now that’s a government department that should be getting bonuses for speed of decision…..
http://www.mynewsdesk.com/uk/pressroom/atos-healthcare/blog_post/view/atos-healthcare-personal-independence-payment-claims-start-in-some-areas-18222
Also Meena has a blog and for someone with PMLD she types and spells extremely well…maybe she could get a job as an blog writer for a charity, newspaper, etc.
hate away…..I think this story seriously hurts those who will be genuinely hurt, no one will believe anything…..
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I told my fella of this woman this morning, his reply was “She could work……. as an MP!!”
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Just a query…why is an assessment of such a severely disabled person done by form? Surely, at the very least, you’d need a specialist?
Mind you, both main parties are to blame on this one. Atos got the contract in 2008.
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You asked for Jobs for Meena. I know it looks nearly impossible but if you are serious about trying to find her something then these are the best people I can find to help.
http://rose.havering-college.ac.uk/
“The Realistic Opportunities for Supported Employment (ROSE) programme has been based at Havering College’s Quarles Campus since its launch in April 2006.
For most people with learning difficulties, paid employment is one of the main goals in adult life. Employment is a vital part of promoting social inclusion and the benefits are much more than just financial. Being in employment helps to build self-esteem, confidence and independence.
Our aim is, with the support of parents/guardians and staff, to secure paid work placements for clients with learning disabilities. The support of a Job Coach, will be available to support clients for as long as necessary to become an independent employee.
We pride ourselves on ensuring this is an individual service, giving a one to one tailor made support plan to ensure the client has access and choice of paid employment. We also offer support to the employer, so that the working relationship is a fruitful one for all concerned.”
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L – her sister writes the blog for her. Maybe not in your world – but sometimes people like to help other people, you know?
As for ATOS only starting the assessments now. You’re wrong. ATOS have been assessing disability claimants since 2008.
You might not like it, but the facts of this case are all completely genuine. And yes – ATOS decided Meena’s case would be done by form and by phone. You’d have to ask ATOS why they think they can assess in that way. Could it be to save money and make more profit? Surely not.
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only a small amount … but a victory none the less
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@TOM PRIDE you were getting cut and paste comments last night..did you know?
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So they’re not just trolls – they’re bone idle, lazy trolls.
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@tom pride yeah i found them on digital spy forum the were word for word same as on here
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But! and I know you shouldn’t start a sentence with a but, But would you expect a three year old to go out to work?
There are those who use and abuse the system. I know of two people who go dancing every week but always use the disabled space before going into the hall to dance for two and a half hours, and I am sure there are worse.
Common sense is a phrase that comes to mind. Solicit help from all those involved with Menna, Doctors etc. then take her along to your MP’s surgery, nothing works better than seeing the situation first hand.
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Bob – have you got a link?
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@david derbyshire as if paying this poor woman her benefits would bankrupt the country..
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@TOM PRIDE
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1816666
“How could anybody doubt the trustworthiness of an article by a person responsible for the following literary gems:-
Quote:
ATOS declare Richard III fit for work
ATOS to reduce ‘fit for work’ test to one question: “Are you alive?”
UK pulls out of 2016 Paralympics after ATOS declares no disabled in UK
ATOS assessor found blind woman fit for work after “wiggling his fingers” in front of her eyes”
check this thread i think you will find similar comments..
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“Sadly the NHS seriously needs to consider euthanising the severely disabled at birth. Their quality of life cannot be guaranteed, and their care costs a great deal of money.
A controversial viewpoint, but one that must be considered.”
Astounding. You come on here and propose that we murder disabled children ( no doubt ‘euthanising’ makes you feel better – people like you rarely have the courage to confront reality) in order to save yourself a few pennies in tax, and then object when someone refers to you as the evil cunt you obviously are. Offended by a insult, but happy to murder disabled children. You’re filth. Do you work for the government?
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After working for a charity with people who have cancer, I can also confirm this is happening. Sending a dying man to a foodbank due to the shambles of the system is disgraceful. Yes, very sick people do generally win their appeals but the considerable amount of additional stress is literally killing some people before they make it as far as appeal. People should NOT have to spend their dying days fighting the system so they can eat. G.P’s and Speialists who have worked with these people for some time are having their professional opinion discredited by the POWER that is ATOS.
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got a job for meena….. give her cameron’s job she’ll be better at it!
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Haven’t quite got the hang of this site, but the last post referred to an evil degenerate called Mark Dragilocevic.
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The perfect job for Meena :
Conscience of the Tory party (the position is currently vacant).
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@NIGEL..oh that evil twisted child murderer posted to me that my opinon was worthless after i had a go at him.
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The fact there are people (sic) (sic again) trolling about this article shows that atos will have a lot more assessing to do in the near future. That some defend the concept and process of atos, let alone the actual actions, shows how sick (no pun at all)? this society has become. Disability as political brickbat for a heartless profit seeking incumbent executive? Just how far away from ‘arbeit macht frei’ are we in this country now? For shame Britain, the public gets what the public wants, do more to change things people.
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It does say she has been assessed in the article
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Bob Chewie
sorry I didn’t reply to your plight, I went to bed. Ofcourse your not worthless and have lots of value, We spark off each other and that’s priceless.
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@GUY FAWKES thanks, mate it was comments aimed at me from the bloody obvious trolls (they were pathetic) but i loved watching them twist and turn and trying to cover them selves..
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That is such shit. This frickin country sometimes….
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she sounds perfect to work at the Jobcentre Plus office near me.
They tell you fuck all
Dont move off their arses
Obviously spend their days making shitbombs
And most importantly with their attitudes they deserve the title ”Princess” or ”Prince” too.
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Ashamed of the Government …”YES”
That is where we should be turning our attention, not on ATOS. The Government is the customer and ATOS has a contract to carry out their work. They might be compounding the problems by their own inadequacies OR they might be doing exactly what their paymasters are bidding them to do. Until the Government come out and condemn ATOS then I tend to believe the latter.
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Actually I think he’s just an attention seeker. There are many exhibitionists on these sites, just desperate to shock and be noticed. Sad, sick little fucker.
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No… just her family.
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She’s far too awesome for that shower!
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I know Farzana thanks to Twitter, and have met her IRL, and she is totally awesome. Anyone doubting her account of Meena’s condition/situation/circumstances: I can understand where you’re coming from, but I can utterly vouch for her. This isn’t a joke, and it’s not satire – although wouldn’t it be nice if it were? – ATOS really *are* this clueless, heartless, and senseless.
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@JO so the bloody obvious trolls were talking crap on here then, begging the question why was this item getting this attention from them???
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‘Meena has Profound Multiple Learning Disabilities (PMLD), brain damage, Cerebral Palsy, can’t talk, can’t walk, has a mental age of 3, is incontinent and likes wearing pink and Minnie the Mouse headbands as well as making shitbombs’.
If you read the last half of that paragraph again you might see that Meena’s disabilities are actually phrased in quite an insulting and demeaning way. I’m sure you can find a way of describing Meena’s disabilities while still according her dignity and respect.
[The description I gave is from Meena’s family and it was fully approved by them. -Tom]
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@Bob. erm… thats 90% cut and paste from the list of Other articles accredited to Tom. Hardly a huge cut and paste conspiracy going on.
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you couldnt be arsed to post question ..you copied it from others…plus the fact that stuff like this was happening elsewhere too…
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Jo I do not for a second doubt your sincerity here, but this is still a personal account, and there is no hard evidence that this action from ATOS has taken place.
Bob is a ravenous troll that is attempting to derail any kind of conversation around the scepticism that we are quite within our rights to express.. This IS the internet after all!
I have scoured the media today as well as yesterday looking for any kind of coverage that would give the report some credibility outside of the confines of these cynical/satirical sites, yet there is none.
I would have thought something like this would be front page news, or at least on a publications web site somewhere…..
[Do I really have to point out the flaw in your argument that something can only be true if it appears in the mainstream press matt? Oh deary deary me. – Tom]
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“What have we become in this once great country that we turn our backs on people like Meena?”
– Conservative.
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Ok.. I know I shouldn’t feed the troll, especially as this one appears to be a devolved version of a human, but lets break it down:
My post that you think is copied and pasted :
“@Arrisoned, Seems replies cannot go more than 2 levels deep:
Look at the other articles posted by the person that created this one:
Related articles by Tom Pride:
ATOS declare Richard III fit for work
ATOS to reduce ‘fit for work’ test to one question: “Are you alive?”
UK pulls out of 2016 Paralympics after ATOS declares no disabled in UK
ATOS assessor found blind woman fit for work after “wiggling his fingers” in front of her eyes
Toby Young – disabled children should be excluded from schools
Please have a mind of your own. You are just fuelling the problem and should really think about asking questions instead of following blindly…
The exploitation of this girl is in the hands of the people on this site, not the government.”
The post that gave as an example of my alleged copying:
“How could anybody doubt the trustworthiness of an article by a person responsible for the following literary gems:-
Quote:
ATOS declare Richard III fit for work
ATOS to reduce ‘fit for work’ test to one question: “Are you alive?”
UK pulls out of 2016 Paralympics after ATOS declares no disabled in UK
ATOS assessor found blind woman fit for work after “wiggling his fingers” in front of her eyes””
Now lets remove the content taken from the top of THIS PAGE that is used in this context as a SOURCE to back up a point. Something that this whole debacle does not bother to do once…
My post truncated (that means shortened by the way):
” Look at the other articles posted by the person that created this one:
Please have a mind of your own. You are just fuelling the problem and should really think about asking questions instead of following blindly…
The exploitation of this girl is in the hands of the people on this site, not the government.”
The “evidence” post truncated:
“How could anybody doubt the trustworthiness of an article by a person responsible for the following literary gems:-
Quote:”
Now, copy and pasting usually ends up with things being exactly the same.. Am I right? Good… Now here, you can see that there are different words used! GASP!
WOW, MIND BLOWN!
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this government think if you can lick a stamp you can work.
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Just spoken to Farzana on Twitter and asked her if she could get a photo of Meena with her assessment form. She said: “Will do this tonight ! It all kicked off last night, so didn’t get a chance.”
https://twitter.com/bananarahmana/status/322654984908967936
I hope this reassures you somewhat! Believe me, I *do* understand (and even welcome) your skepticism; hopefully as and when the photo turns up, you’ll see that this farcical situation is genuine.
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I dunno, maybe a doorstop?
If this is ATOS’s typical candidate for a normal person who can work without need of benefits then my heavily disabled 64 year old mother with 2 wearing knee-caps that would constantly dislocate backwards causing her to frequently fall over, severe arthritis that caused her knee caps to wear in the first place and resulted in her fingers being twisted, and diabetes would’ve been forced to go back to work in the paper factories again. God rest her soul that she never had to go through this bullshit.
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From Farzanas Twitter 26 minutes ago.
“Thanks ******* – think they’ve made a genuine mistake. x”
Care to weigh in Bobchewie? Or does this take too much of the outrage out of your day?
[matt – how does Meena’s sister hoping ATOS has made a mistake change anything? Of course they’ve made a bloody mistake. Her sister has a mental age of 3! You’re really grasping at straws now. -Tom]
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Jo I never doubted the situation, and would NEVER doubt the seriousness of this girls condition, however I believe I am right in thinking that everyone would be required to complete a form such as this, and then a clerical error has resulted in this furore that is occurring around us now.
It seemed all too easy for people to accept this as an absolute decree from those evil ATOS people, and not as something that would be fixed with a couple of phone calls, or a strongly worded letter… But the internet doesn’t allow for anything less than polarised views which are damaging to everyone!
[Nice attempt at backtracking matt. You started your trolling by doubting the very existence of Meena and implying I’d made the story up. Now you not only accept that Meena exists, but her condition is real and that ATOS should not have assessed her as fit for work. That’s quite a journey – so well done.
The truth is that Meena’s case is not a one off. ATOS are paid millions in taxpayers money to get the assessments right. When they make a ‘mistake’, the person has to appeal which can take months and in the meantime they get no money. It is estimated at least one disabled person found fit for work by ATOS dies before an appeal each week. That’s a brutal way to reduce the cost of benefits – Tom]
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@Gary Great suggestion! Yes, Meena should work for ATOS. What a better person for the job than someone who actually is disabled. Maybe after a day of smelling poop and trying to show her how to write A B C on post it notes they’ll realise that their assessment couldn’t be any further from being “normal” than a baby working for Microsoft.
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Just read the Princess Meena blog, and for someone with a mental age of 3, she’s quite wordy!
I’m assuming its not her writing them?!?
Just asking… :o)
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Thanks for the reply! The fact that ATOS made a “clerical error” – if this is what it boils down to, which I doubt – is newsworthy enough, as the error will have caused great worry and concern to a family doing their best to care for a very disabled young woman. Meena is lucky her sisters and parents are such fierce advocates for her rights. How many other disabled people are in far less ‘fortunate’ (relatively speaking) positions? This just underlines for me how callous ATOS’s process is; even if it’s an honest mistake on ATOS’s part (…), it’s one that has caused huge distress. It highlights the cruelty of the system.
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If everyone here believed it was a genuine mistake, this page would not have 300+ replies.
And she says “Think” not “Hoping”. One relates to a wish to see something happen, one alludes to a level of knowledge. Huge difference.
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It may sound picky and i don’t mean to detract from the point of this story but I’m really not keen on the expression ‘mental age’. For some people it can be a hinderance in terms of being recognised as a whole person with emotional, physical, human, ages, needs..I’m not necccesairily referring to this person but commenting on the expression. I think language is important in terms of us recognising how we speak about and categorise other people. But i also think we should try not to be afraid to speak for fear of seeming incorrect and also to try to gentle pull each other up on things…
[I take your point. But the choice of words is her family’s – not mine. Tom]
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With a mental age of 3 she can rule out working for ATOS, she’s far too mentally developed for them
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“making shitbombs”?!
Don’t mock someone who can’t defend themselves.
It makes me very uncomfortable.
[This is not mocking. It is Meena’s own words – approved by her family. Tom]
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Kuma- san
Perhaps meena can also take the person that wrote her blogg to work with her, so that she can act as a substitute there too.
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Tom, please get things straight.
I have not once said that she did not exist. I did not once say that she was not asked to fill out forms to assess her disabilities.
I question your sites overblown approach to this situation by sensationalising what is clearly an error. I asked for some level of proof that she had been told to seek work. Something that you were unable to provide sources for, and more importantly, you were quite slippery in your replies surrounding proof and sources, leading me to the belief that you already knew that within this story was a grain of truth that you could fertilise with internet outrage just to gain hits to your site.
I stand by my original conviction, and nothing in that has or will change. There has been and will be no backtracking, as I believe I am right in this.
Your brand of cynical flaming torch and pitchfork sensationalistic internet “journalism” is a blight and I am glad that I am not the only one that saw through the ploy.
I wish Meena all the best. And I really genuinely hope that she is spared your “help” in the future.
[ATOS have not made an ‘error’. They are collecting millions in taxpayers money to fulfil government targets to find as many disabled people fit for work as possible whether they are or not. They are assessing people by form and by phone to save money probably. When ATOS makes these ‘errors’, the claimant has to appeal – a process which can take months. In the meantime their benefits are stopped. Meena has a caring family to help her but a lot of people don’t have that kind of support. You are clearly a government supporter who doesn’t like the truth of what the government is doing to some of the weakest members of our society. ATOS is a scandal – admit it. Tom]
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Hi everyone,
I would just like to state some facts from my own experience with ATOS… 4 Years ago because of their poor incompetent staff, my ESA was stopped and I was unable to claim it again until I had my Appeal (this actually took 14 months to happen, because of more incompetent staff at ESA). Other knock on results from this, was the loss of our council house which we had lived in for ten years!!! Apparently even though we were on other benefits, because my ESA was stopped, so did my housing benefit, which the council failed to inform us about. Then several months later, we get a demand for £1,600.00 rent arrears!!! More appointments and hassle, the debt would not be cleared until the appeal had been heard, however, our council wanted payment straight away and where not prepared to wait for the appeal. Result was an eviction notice, all because of ATOS… (My appeal was won within 5 mins when it happened 14 months later).
Another dealing with ATOS was 3 years ago!! Their visiting doctor stated I could walk for several miles (this was by watching me walk from on chair to another with my sticks, less than 3 meters. Oh did I mention, I am virtually wheelchair bound? And any type of walking causes severe pain and discomfort. Thank fully this appeal only took 1 year to happen. Again, the appeal was won.
Many of my friends have had all similar problems with ATOS and it would appear that these so called visiting doctors are on some kind of bonus or commission award, to fail people’s medicals. Note not fact, just what it would appear to be.
At the end of the day, again from what I have seen and know about, in order to claim any type of disability benefit or ESA, you really need not to be sick or disabled, as these people always get awarded it. Yet the people that genuinely need and deserve these benefits are the ones that fail these assessments and medicals and have to go through the stress of appealing. I would also assume that the process was probably put in place, knowing, that a high percentage of people in need of these benefits, would not actually appeal. This would be because they are to scarred, cannot handle the stress, cannot do the paper work or believe no matter what they do, they have had their answer……
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meena in her own way is saying because of her infirmity she soils herself….
” I make a lot of shit bombs which means I need my clothes and bed linen washed more often than most.”
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Greggs in kingston are recruiting
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matto she’s going to be put on PIP that replaces DLA ..ATOS assess people for PIP its the same game as WCA ie to remove benefits..if she has those removed then what? you are rubbish at this..
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matte vinyl i wonder why cunts like you show up on blogs like this and try and shoot it down…its upset your mates thats for sure..
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you cannot be found fit for work by ATOS WITHOUT a face to face assessment i don’t believe this story for one minute. i have just been placed in the support group i have multiple disabilities though different to Meena. This doesn’t make sense at all , plus the sister is turning down media .If that were my sister i would want it on the front page of EVERY SINGLE paper in this country to show the injustice of it all
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@JO I’M A RAVENOUS TROLL….HAHAHA…..muppet matt sez…
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It’s her sister Farzana 🙂
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Surely the fact that this decision has been made based on a form indicating someone with Profound Multiple Learning Disabilities is enough of a story on its own?
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hey thinkoid you know what contradiction is? its when you say you dont believe something by using the facts that actually back it up..1 ‘her sister’ ok so she exists to have a sister 2 her condition is worse than..’yours’ thus establishing the fact that she exists, has a sister and has a condition..but, as you say ‘you dont believe it..oh right..
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Would like to see that this is not an admin error – of which there are bound to be some given the scale of the number of assessments being done – before leaping to any conclusions.
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Am I alone in seeing the evil in this “persons” eyes? We need to give the money to banks, not scroungers. If she could move then the chances are she would only be setting fire to houses full of kids. That’s what welfare claimants are up to these days.
You lefties need a bit of balance. Here’s a blog that tells it like it is from a Tory perspective, I hope you have minds broad enough to read it and learn the truth instead of burying your head in your obsession with so called “humanity”
http://trueblueviews.wordpress.com
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hey melon head were you born a useless cunt or did you decide to be one?
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i never said i didn’t think she existed where did i say that? It is a fact that you cannot be found fit for work without seeing ATOS in person. I don’t believe she was found fit for work maybe she was put in the WRAG? thats all I’m saying. iIF she was put in the WRAG she should appeal as she should be in the support group with the extent of her disabilities . i apologise if i did not make myself clear in my first post. No offence meant to Meena
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are you actually serious coz if you are you seriously need to get help and get it NOW
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trolls are getting more pathetic by the minute
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If this is true, I also know people whom have been assessed as fit to work and they are not fit, how much is the original assessor being paid? How much would it be for an appeal to take place. What a waste of money that would be to the taxpayer.To the person who did the original assessment, you are very lucky nowadays to be in a well paid job so make sure you do it correctly !!!!!!
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well its better than two faced matt the pratt..from first off he was trying to shoot the whole thing down then he denied it..
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melon
or should that be lemon, what’s wrong is the true blue site short of visitors that you have to promote it here. One can imagine what they write without visitation upon it.
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no twatt i just wonder why fuckwits like you show up on here trying to shoot the whole then down then deny it..
btw i was sent atos shit too and ‘presumed they made a mistake’ they hadnt in fact it took a lot of writing and medical stuff to show them…it does not get one inch away from the fact that thousands who have been assessed wrongly are found ‘fit for work..in fact dwp etc laughingly claim that atos are medical ‘experts’..if t was know fact the severity of this ladies condition then they wouldnt to have even needed to contact her about assesments..
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Welshtoffee24
How right you are about those in work being less incompetent (if that is what it is?),but with nothing but internal self regulatory complaints services that exonerate themselves from any wrongdoing, you are never going to get any justice.
Even when you produce facts that proves them wrong, according to them they are right and no legal aid to fight these b’ards.
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surely if a person so profoundly handicapped as this is deemed fit to work then the job most deemed suitable for them should be suggested and arranged . and safety supervision in the form of a paid attendant provided at all times . Transport to and fro the place of employment for wheelchair users will naturally be necessary and large state minibuses to ferry invalids to do vital tasks such as stocking shelves etc could be provided for this purpose.
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ps The legal profession are reluctant to fight the state or the establishment for they are part of it themselves.
The new laws regarding claims for personal injury which has just this month been implemented is now seeing solicitors touting for business because the state will not be picking up the tab if the claimant wins,the said claimant will now have to pay for court and legal costs out of any compensation awarded by the courts.
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@IRIS JARRET but that would cost money or as richard littledick would put it” if you give in to these idle workshy by giving them free BMWs then they will all want one’ and the country would go broke”..
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All those people questioning whether this is a genuine story need to stop trolling and start finding out what is actually going on,largely in silence, (outside of disability websites,) in their society, in their name. After all, Cameron et al are constantly telling us the public support welfare cuts. They maydo, because they simply have no idea what is really going on and have been fed a lot of totally false information.
Cases as extreme as this one are not unique. Horrendous cases are all too common, even if not so blatantly ridiculous as this one.
This is taxpayer’s money being wasted on Atos to carry out these contracts at £110 million per year. Despite their terrible record, which has been debated in Parliament, they have also been given contracts to now do the reassessments for DLA as well.
The opening speech in the Parliamentary debate can be seen on You Tube, as can the full debate. Michael Meacher and John McDonnel and Tom Greatrex among others have been fighting for a very long time to get these assesments stopped. The BMA has demanded that they stop, yet the onslaught continues unabated
Here is the story of another severely disabled woman told to get ready for work. Judge from the video for yourself.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/oct/03/work-woman-care?CMP=twt_gu
If you don’t believe it, then take it up with her mother. She is the Deputy President of the Royal College of Nursing.
What will it take for the public to wake up and realise this really is happening in this country and has been largely not reported or minimally reported by the MSM. I think it is becuase the stories that do leak out are SO shocking, people simply prefer to believe it cannot be true in a country such as Britain or is a one off error, that can be simply put right by a Tribunal.
Well, new legislation has been introduced which means the assessment rate will no longer be paid if an appeal is raised. In fact, now people have to have a DWP reconsideration phase before they can even lodge an appeal. There is no time limit on how long this can take – without any income. If the reconsideration is wrong, people now have to lodge the appeal themselves directly with the Tribunal, providing multiple sets of paperwork. This was previously dealt with by the DWP. Tribunals alone are taking upto a year to be heard with no income.
This is an outrage in a supposedly civilised society. People need to consider, this is the system waiting for them if they have an accident or disabling illness. No exceptions.
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Chewie
Iris Jarret is a pi..taker, all these costs would obviously hike up the welfare bill which the government uses as a stick to beat the disabled with, and such costs would defeat the object of those who are perfectly dignified out of work.
when not saddled with the’ work brings independence and dignity tag’ which is an absolutely misleading mantra which should be ‘the and disabled should not be forced into paid or unpaid work’ period.
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@JAN the other sad thing is that theres a campaign trying to raise £6k for this poor lady..and at present its stuck at zero..and im concerned that all these attempts to discredit her story and even her will impact on this campaign.
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First of all the media has been on the whole suspiciously silent about the whole fiasco.
If you got into the support group, then congratulations. Do not assume that because you did, everyone who should be in the support group makes it.
The under cover Dispatches documentary last summer revealed that there is a 12% target for the support group. Any HCP putting more through is called in and told to conform to the “norms” The undercover GP was told to change some of his decisions.
Atos are a law unto themselves. They have a huge backlog. They are putting a lot of people in the WRAG group without medicals, so they are parked, when they should have had a medical and be in the support group.
The worst thing about all this, is when other disabled people who have had a lucky escape, feel that is because they are genuine and everyone else must either not be that bad or its just a genuine mistake. ALL disabled people should be fighting this abhorrent system, on behalf of those who cannot or who have not had such a lucky escape.
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@guy fawkes we know how the game is played with MSM ppl desparate need are villified day after day..but govt will come out with ”but we help ppl” this trying to make themselves look blameless whilts feeding ‘cases’ to increase slurs on ppl or the usual bollocks of ”i cannot comment on individual cases”
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Jan
Surely anyone with a tribunal pending against their atos assessment can claim hardship allowance at least, until their case is heard, otherwise it would again be preventing people from attaining justice for themselves, a basic human right.
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Looks like a parody of a Tory blogger to me.
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It’s a very simple answer why it isn’t all over the press to be verified – the family are Muslim, daughters of immigrants, and brown. Right now in the press that would target them for Daily Mail abuse and all sorts of hate directed at them; which just gets worse but such is the current climate of xenophobia and division. I can’t blame the family for not wanting to make more of a fuss. That it has attracted so much attention is however proof of what has been happening all along, up and down the country for the past two years. This is unfortunately not an isolated case – but with the rabid divide-and-conquer, I’m sure people would focus more on this girl’s skintone, religion and upbringing than the fact a young woman obviously incapable of working has been found fit for work.
Once a month, up and down the country, similar stories arise. Recently the man in a coma who was “encouraged to go back to work” – Karen Sherlock as well (rest her soul) fought against the system then died two weeks later after winning her appeal. If just ONE story creates this kind of disbelief, then surely the fact this happens repeatedly boggles the mind…even more so that We as a country allow it to happen.
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I think the Tories are getting desperate. They know people are begining to realise their rhetoric has been lies. They have based their hopes on winning the next election on getting the public really angry about the benefit system. It was always their ideology to destroy it and has been a long time in the planning, as we know from the discussions with UNUM dating back even to the previous Labour government.The global financial crisis is simply a convenient cover story.
All out of work benefits including unemployment and sickness form less than 10% of the welfare bill. JSA is only 3%. Over 50% of the bill is for pensions and universal pensioner benefits, but no one mentions that, as they want the pensioner vote.
Some of the fiercest critics of those on benefits are the working poor, who have benn encouraged to feel they are being shafted. Well, they are, But not by the unemployed or sick. They are shafted by low wages, the fear of unemployment with millions waiting to take their place, and high housing costs. None of these problems are being addressed.
Over 60% of the population is on some form of benefit – most of those IN work. Working tax credits, child tax credits, child benefit and top up housing benefit form a huge part of the welfare spend. Yet for some reason, those in work do not see themselves as being on benefits.
With Universal Credit they will soon find out that their benefits will fade away too, with conditionality on finding more or better paid work. Just wait for the howls of protest when all these cuts start to hit the working poor and eventually pensioners. The media will cover that alright.
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To those who are onhere doubting the validity of this claim, and saying that they do so to ‘protect those who are genuine’..
writing on a comments thread that you dont believ that this is the true, and citing (undocumented) family members to give your disagreement some semblance of added validity, does nothing to help those who are daily being hurt by the Atos assessments.
If you dont believe that this is true, but are genuine in your concern, contact the person involved and ask for proof. If you cant be bothered to do this, then by all means dispute it on a comments thread if you are happy for your comments to be taken by those who are pro-Atos and wish to continue the decimation of benefits for those in need, and paint all disabled people as scroungers.
If you dont wish to do this then do us, and your ‘family members’ who are ‘in the same position’ a huge favour ,and stop pandering to the bigots.
Truth and interigy are fragile at the moment in Britain. Bigotry and divisiveness and blame are on the rise. Decide which side you are on, and realise that if you are going on comments threads denouncing disabled people as liars and hyperbole, without proof, you are simply giving all those in the far right a greater validation for denouncing everyone.
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Speaking from experience of cases like Meenas’, If her Personal Adviser at the jobcentre has not appealed on her customers behalf to the decision makers at her Benefit Delivery Centre, then she’s not doing her job properly. decision be reversed as long as the customer appeals and the adviser can show it was wrong, in meena’s case it obviously is. the black triangle campaign.org offers support and letters that a gp can send in to the BDC which quotes regs 29 & 35 which states ‘if placing a customer in the Work Related Activity Group is detremental to their mental or physical well being, then they should not be placed in it’.
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Sindr – well said.
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@TOM yeah i thought that too..the idea that the likes of the EDL harassing them makes one shudder..
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I had to share this. Bloody hell, ATOS.
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Did the sentence “as well as dropping shitbombs” have any relevance in this story? I’m in the US and have no idea of your disability laws, but do know that posting that in this story was disrespectful and totally unnessisary.
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This government can rot in hell for what they are doing to the people, it’s time someone stood up to this Atos for the crimes they are doing to the sick and disabled, they just don’t give Atoss! they only want to steal money and stick it into private pockets which is wrong!, the queen get’s 5 million pounds from the state also not to mention Mrs Thatcher’s million pound send off, totally dispicable!!!!!!!!, everyone is getting thrown off even through appeals because these evil low empathy lizards are so f’n greedy for money. money is the route of all evils and this government is at the right heart of it.
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ATOS are murderers by proxy. FACT. They cause people to freeze and starve to death and they incite mentally ill patients to commit suicide. FACT. How DARE THEY sit there and DICTATE who is fit for work and who isn’t?
CaMORON needs to go and A.S.A.P. ATOS are CaMORON’s mercenaries. There are too many people in this country, so let’s kill some off.
CaMORON is a traitor. FACT.
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@ROBIN It was meena’s way of saying she had solied herself..
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“All of our staff are committed to providing the DWP with high quality, accurate reports and to ensuring that the experience for those who are called for assessment is as comfortable as possible.”
http://www.atoshealthcare.com/claimants/our_healthcare_professionals
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How is mental health assessed?
Our health care professionals (HCPs) conduct assessments for all conditions, including mental health. We also have Mental Function Champions who provide additional expertise in mental health, cognitive and learning disabilities. They can advise the healthcare professional on any aspect of the effects of mental health conditions.
Our health care professional will ask you questions about how you are affected by your mental health conditions. Based on this discussion, and all available evidence, our HCPs will provide their advice to the DWP. This advice is based on the DWP criteria and covers your capacity to cope with change, your understanding and focus, and social interaction.
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@waterrlemon thats a rubbish satire site you got.
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It seems to me that Meena would be perfect to work as a mid level manager at ATOS.
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Late into the fray, apologies, just wanted to answer a few things from people who seem to be happy to criticise without being in full possession of the facts:
>>> “And presumably open to appeal? which would involve the cessation of any action until such a time that the case could be reviewed by a person that would have to visit in person?”
– No. One of the problems is that the decision stands until reviewed or an appeal is won, which means that the claimant is left without the “passport” benefit, which in turns impacts things like their Housing Benefit etc.
For example, a friend of mine whose severely disabled son has just turned 16: DWP lost the DLA forms TWICE, so they stopped his DLA payments. So the DWP stopped mum’s Income Support, because now she’s not a carer anymore (no DLA, so son not disabled of a sudden), she’s supposed to go sign on. Because she’s not entitled to IS, the council stopped her Housing Benefit. Oh, and Motability took back the car she was leasing, of course.
Guess what, she still is a FT carer for her son, who is not stopping being disabled because of a paperwork issue, and she hasn’t had any money for weeks, so now she’s getting eviction notices.
Oh sure, when the DWP get off their arses and re-instate DLA, then it will all get back dated, but by then she’ll be so deep in debt and bank charges that it will take months or years to recover.
>>> “ATOS started assessments on 8th April in ‘some areas”
– No. Atos has been doing assessment for years, since 2008 if memory serves. You are confusing WCA with the new assessments for the changes from DLA to PIP, which will also be carried out by Atos.
>>> “‘cos this shit ain’t done over the phone.”
– Wrong. It is unusual, but not unheard of.
>>> “I believe I am right in thinking that everyone would be required to complete a form such as this, and then a clerical error has resulted in this furore that is occurring around us now.”
– No, you’re wrong in thinking that. And you’re also wrong in assuming that a clerical error is the most likely scenario. The most likely scenario, as has been seen time and again, is that someone decided, for whatever reason, that this person was fit for work and should go get a job. Wake up, it is happening all over the land. It’s very sweet of you, I suppose, not to want to believe the worse of this government and their staff, but the reality is otherwise. Plenty of examples on the net and in the media, all you have to do is a good search and you will find plenty of evidence confirming that this is NOT an isolated incident, that is, if you are interested in knowing what’s really happening, and not just defending Atos wholesale.
BTW, Tom’s articles are clearly labelled “satire” or “true story”, etc… so there is really no excuse not to see the difference between a story that says “Richard III found fit for work” and an article like the one we’re commenting on. 😉
As for the “True Blue” blog, I have actually posted it to another friend of mine who is as blue as they get, to the point that he is currently standing for election as a Conservative, and have asked him to confirm that really represents the conservative POV. I have a feeling I know what his answer is going to be. :-p
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“Atos Healthcare training to receive university accreditation
Derby, 7 April 2011
A leading provider of healthcare services – Atos Healthcare – has teamed up with the University of Derby Corporate to officially accredit a key training course for its nurses.
The announcement means that the 300-400 Atos Healthcare nurses who successfully complete the course each year will receive a Certificate of Achievement – Disability Analysis – an award which will give them 30 credits at Level 6 of a degree award.
In a profession where all nurses will be required to obtain a degree in order to successfully qualify in nursing from 2012, the partnership is a further boost as it will enable many of Atos Healthcare’s nursing team to put their credits towards studying for a full degree top up should they wish to do so. Students require 120 credits at Level 6 to successfully obtain a BSc (Hons) in Nursing.
The accreditation has been made possible through a collaborative partnership between Atos Healthcare, a business division of Atos Origin and the number one provider of occupational healthcare services in the UK1, and the University of Derby, through its commercial arm, University of Derby Corporate (UDC). ”
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http://www.derby.ac.uk/staff-search/mrs-jenny-baldwin
Department: Administration/Marketing
Faculty: UoD Corporate
School: UOD Corporate
“I’m the Marketing Manager at University of Derby Corporate, the University’s business to business arm”
UoD Corporate have as much to do with medical as a pork pie at a vegan slap up
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‘@MARIE PACE..to me if someone was in receipt of incapacity or DLA then surely to goodness DWP would be in touch with GP to conform thus not wasting time with atos..anyway..lets not forget the atos assessment letters are scary things to get as much as the assessment it self..i think most people will know that the whole atos scandal is all about kicking ppl off benefits whether they are ill or not..
btw the true blue IMHO is a rubbish spoof site..
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Sounds like she has the qualifications for a politician !!
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Neo- feudal news is another spoof site that was left under one of my postings also.
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Sadly, the NHS needs to consider euthanising sociopaths. Their selfish money-first, people-second philosophies cause great distress to many people and hold back the spiritual enlightenment of the species.
Maybe some French IT company could come up with a pilot scheme to prove the concept, and maybe Mark Dragilocevic will be the first to volunteer.
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I have fibro and don’t qualify for benefits but only because my husband works and supports me financially. BUT I do currently qualify for DLA because my mobility is so badly affected that I need extra help with getting out and about and doing routine things that most people don’t even think about. I don’t know yet if I will qualify for PIP when that change is assessed. But bear in mind that DLA/PIP is not an out of work benefit and you can still be eligible even if you are able to work but need extra help to manage it (adapted vehicle, taxis for commuting, motorised wheelchair etc).
whether you qualify depends entirely on how badly your condition affects you, not just on the diagnosis itself.
If you apply, make sure to get help from CAB with the form.
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Thank you Tom for posting this. My heart and prayers go out to Fahmeena and her wonderful family who don’t deserve such vehement! I just hope that these “people” don’t have to endure what they have to suffer each and every day. For this case is one of thousands and is not unique in any shape or form. Similar families and circumstances Who have had to face ATOS,/ WCA cruel and unjust barbarism in this day and age in the 21st Century.
I have just seen this message from Sue Marsh
‘If you saw the #jobsformeena hashtag yesterday, Meena’s family would like to confirm that they made a genuine mistake & ask that tweets and posts from yesterday are no longer circulated. They also thank everyone for their concern. The ESA process is ridiculously complicated and most people get very confused by they aggressive tone of Atos/DWP letters’.
Blessings, Peace, Prayers to Fahmeena and her dear Family.
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It’s called Work Capability Assessment (T4). Most people have been blinded by the massive propaganda campaign.
I really don’t see people as being able to distinguish truth from lies with all the anti disability, anti unemployed, anti poor rhetoric being thrown around. Everyone’s so wrapped up in themselves and more than a little dumbed down by the 24/7 psychological attacks of so called popular culture.
Herr Camaron and his band of jolly bullingdon toffs have successfully re-instated the spirit of 1930’s Germany.
I await my Atos death camp invitation.
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I think she would make a perfect politian!! You go girl! Appeal and it won’t even get as far as the tribunal board! I also suggest you go to the national papers about this – the Government and ATOS must be named and shamed. Good luck – and what a beautiful princess she is! Cx
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Meena could be a government minister
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I flagged this story up as a potential fake nine hours ago, as soon as I saw it. Failing to check the veracity of your sources is poor. I won’t subscribe to this source again.
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Scouser – nothing about the story is fake. Please respect the family’s right to privacy.
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Sonia Poulton update regarding Meena – the 30 year old lady with mental age of 3, reported as being fit for work by ATOS.
The story of Meena – the 30-year-old who cannot walk and talk and has a mental age of 3 and was found fit-to-work by ATOS – is NOT true. The family made an error. I have just received an e-mail telling me so…although I have yet to tell my (soon-to-be-pissed-off-at-being-misled) newspaper and TV editors about it…Please pass the truth around. Misleading stories like this do not help the case of disability campaigning. Makes people very reluctant to consider covering such stories in the future.
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@bob, yeah you’d think, wouldn’t you… but where would be the profit for Atos in that?
Re the True Blue site, do you really think so? I think it’s a genuine nutter! 😉
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Please ignore speculation from journos and other bloggers. They have their own agenda. The real Meena family statement is above.
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Whether the story is true or not is something which will come to light soon enough, some have taken it upon themselves to do the research to find the truth behind these stories, I know what ATOS are capable of, they tried it with my Daughter, but when I started questioning the qualifications of the person who made the decision, they began to make excuses.
After a year of research, I found that their decision was made by a nurse and not a Doctor, so I began to contact my Daughters Consultants, and I kept bugging them until they took notice, I also began to record all telephone conversations, one in particular had one Consultant fuming, when they compared a Doctor with one leg who worked for ATOS as being in a similar situation and able to work, they compared a one legged Doctor to a Child with severe mental disability.
ATOS are given targets they must reach or they do not get paid, so they are being paid for every person they say can work, that in itself is wrong in so many ways, a private company who needs to reach a target or they do not get paid gives them incentive to stretch the facts, and they do that by manipulating the questions on their forms, you can get any answer you want to any question if you ask it in the right way.
I find the article less reliable because of the highlighted stupid stories below the article, like the 2016 British para Olympic team will not take part in the next Olympics because ATOS has decided nobody in Britain has a Disability, its crap like that which makes a joke of the whole situation, and does hurt the fight to stop these people, there are several stories there which do the same thing, it might be funny to some, but not one of you is immune to suddenly becoming Disabled because of an accident, or one of many many other ways it can happen to anybody.
For every fake blog the Government laugh themselves stupid, because that is what they want, it suits their cause just fine, and leaves those who need help with a life of even more misery while people fight to fix it, the idiots who treat it like a huge joke need to keep their mouths shut if they cant make a valid contribution, if you don’t understand, all you can offer in reality is sympathy to the plight of some of these very sick and needy people, but instead you keep putting your feet in your mouths while hiding behind your monitor.
Try shedding a tear every now and then, you might even get to grow a spine.
The Government have got rid of the bad back brigade, now they have moved onto bigger harder to hit targets, and they are doing this by still convincing the ignorant that these people are faking and not as sick as they make out, which is total BS.
One thing none of us can get away from is we are all going to get old and die, sadly with age comes frailty for many many people, our society is set up where we all pay National insurance contributions, the clue is in the title, “National Insurance” its not Johns insurance, or Mary’s insurance, its a contribution to look after each and every one of us should the need arise, but we now seeing more and more people who think its all about them, and that the World acts like they do, which is far from the truth, that is called selfishness, being popular amongst your friends does not make any of us any more significant on the grand scale of things, we take far too many things for ranted these days, and most of us wouldn’t last five minutes without some kind of help or back up from whatever source.
If you cant see that there is something seriously wrong with our Country right now then you have a serious problem, along with the fact we have been brainwashed into blaming everyone but those responsible for the problems we face, just makes the situation so much worse, you have to ask where will this end up, what is the eventual consequences of allowing this to continue? you only need to look at History to get your answer, every action will lead to another action and so fourth until what?
Wake up and have a good look around you, because what you think you see is not what you are actually seeing, and may whatever God you worship help us all.
What is coming over the horizon is going to hurt every single one of us, and its going to hurt more than any of us could ever imagine, its fine sharing every second of our daily lives on Twitter or Facebook, ask yourself, what are they doing with all that information? because nobody has any secrets anymore, someone is taking notes.
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@TOM the family never made a mistake, it was ATOS for sending the letter in the first place…had DWP checked with the GP all this undue stress would never had happened..as someone who has had the dreaded ATOS letter i can tell you its deeply troubling..especially if you are unwell..
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@scouser byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!
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I assume that as this update was written “IN CYNICISM” we have to read between the lines.
The DWP letters are clear about whether one has been found fit for work or placed in the Support group.
Anyone following the tweets will understand why “the family” has made the decision to issue this statement. The sister acted in good faith but her family wish to be left alone for reasons which are clear to anyone who read the tweets.
That too shames this country.
Tom – you are clearly a decent bloke who has fallen on his sword to protect others.
Keep it up. Light must be shone into the dark, hidden corners of the fate of the disabled in this country – without fear to those involved.
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True Blue is a spoof site, admittedly not a very good one.
Don’t people get satire in this country anymore? Has everyone’s brains suddenly rotted with this ghastly divisive government?
People have commented on some of Tom’s other stories such as finding Richard iii fit for work as “proof” the Meena story was made up. It was not.
Pay attention. He even marks articles up as satire or real at the top.
I despair
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@notinmyname i think thats pretty shitty of you posting ”the family” thus making it seem they were scroundrels ..tom didnt fall on any sword..plain fact is DWP shouldnt have sent this poor family any kind of letter at all..the responded the way anone would being sent scary crap from those heartless arseholes at DWP..
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What use is keeping it private, as they won’t be helping all the other people with mental problems being harassed by Atos and the Job Centre.
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@suzanne its so the family wont suffer harassment by twats like the MSM and EDL causing them untold grief..
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I didn’t mean it like that at all. I apologise if it comes across that way to you or anyone else.
I was trying to be discreet about what has really happened here without making things worse.
If you read the tweets and the princess meena diaries you may see what has happened here. I was simply trying to distinguish between the original source of the story, Meena’s sister, and the reason for the withdrawal which has come from the rest of the family, but there are reasons why they want it to go no further. More than that I cannot say. And yes Tom is taking the hit by withdrawing the original story to protect them, even if people will use it to try and discredit him for supposedly getting the story wrong. He hasn’t.
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In other news, Atos have settled out of court for £2000 in a disability discrimination case for making no adjustments for a claimant’s needs in attending the Atos assessment centre and thereby making their condition worse.
Atos tried to claim that they were not bound by the Equality Act 2010 when
conducting WCA’s and so did not need to make “reasonable adjustments” for disabled people!!!!Do Atos have an exemption from UK law or what.
I wonder where this leaves them in terms of the number of centres they have which are not accessible to wheelchair users or interview rooms up flights of stairs.
http://welfarenewsservice.com/atos-in-2k-disability-discrimination-settlement/#.UWf7FSsjq0L
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@not they should not have been sent any letter
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What happened to the comment I posted on here about twenty minutes ago?
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I will not have you demeaning the family. Criticising them for talking about ‘shitbombs’ (it was their word) – and implying what happened to them with ATOS was not true is not acceptable.
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