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(not satire – it’s today’s Tory party!)
Is this the face of modern Conservatism in the UK today?
Meet Claire Khaw.
She was thrown out of the BNP …… for being too extreme.
Apparently even the BNP couldn’t stomach Claire’s views – for example euthanasia for disabled babies:
So which political party was extreme enough to accommodate Claire and her mentalist views?
Well, Claire’s just announced she’s joined the Conservative Party – describing it as “like coming home”.
No – this isn’t one of my more tasteless satires. Although whenever I come across right-wing mentalists like her I can’t help thinking they must be joking.
But unfortunately – for the Conservative Party – Claire’s real enough.
I expect we’re going to be seeing some frantic spinning from Cameron’s spin doctors over this.
A round of applause for Claire folks.
What an act.
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Ummm Claire Khaw was in the BNP? Claire Khaw who is half Burmese? Riiiiight….
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I know. I long ago gave up trying to follow the tortured attempts at logic of right-wing loons like BNP members – and Tories.
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Khaw dropped me from FB. “Such a pity!” 😉
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You must be missing the intellectual discussion.
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She just ranted 24/7. PMT?
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a very NASTY LADY at home in a very NASTY PARTY !
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I believe she now suspects the BNP are racist.
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Thanks for the posting Mr Tom Pride. Much appreciated.
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” I believe she now suspects the BNP are racist. “,.
Trevor
Or possibly that she is concerned that the BNP may be water downing and possibly even abandoning racism and that she wants to move to a party with a clear and unambiguous racist agenda hence her reported move to DCameron’s New British Union of Fascists faux Conservative Party.
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” Ummm Claire Khaw was in the BNP? Claire Khaw who is half Burmese? Riiiiight…. ”
goggzilla
She is an inter-species cat human hybrid ?
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I was going to put Burman but then thought I’d be accused of calling her Butch!!
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this woman runs a page on facebook.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Are-Slut-Single-Mothers-a-burden-on-the-state/220271251432495?fref=ts
and went over there last week to try and understand – well just try i suppose. it was brain damage but i suppose i have to give these things a try… as you can imagine there was no reasoning or deviation from “the cause” despite what i consider myself and my friend gave to be a very clear and reasonable argument (apart from the times i lost the plot). full transcript here: (its an education – jeez!)
https://www.facebook.com/notes/paul-somethingtobe-barnard/full-text-of-a-fight-with-a-fascist/302941899823672
eek!
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Bet she’ll get on really well with IDS
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And Lord David Fraud.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2240075/Now-sick-babies-death-pathway-Doctors-haunting-testimony-reveals-children-end-life-plan.html
Now sick babies go on death pathway: Doctor’s haunting testimony reveals how children are put on end-of-life plan
• Practice of withdrawing food and fluid by tube being used on young patients
• Doctor admits starving and dehydrating ten babies to death in neonatal unit
• Liverpool Care Pathway subject of independent inquiry ordered by ministers
• Investigation, including child patients, will look at whether cash payments to hospitals to hit death pathway targets have influenced doctors’ decisions
By Sue Reid and Simon Caldwell
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She goes on about tax payers money a lot , maybe she should join tax payers alliance and work for Atos.
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People only have value if it is monetry . So when her ex bnp mates beat the crap out of someone and leave them injured they should say no dont treat me i dont want to be a burden on the state.
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Do ATOS employ such a SICK PERSON?
Even ATOS MUST have some standards & morals
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Agreed – I wondered if the BNP would allow their MPs to call public servants “plebs and morons” – perhaps they do have standards!!
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This has been going on for many years. My mother’s friend, who was Matron of an old people’s home, but who had worked in hospitals up and down the country, described this happening in the late 1950’s
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Not surprising Claire was in the BNP if she was half burmese. BNP do not, contrary to popular belief, discriminate against people because they are of non-white or non-British descent, hence why they picked a mixed nationality Uruguayan immigrant as their London mayoral candidate. Thing is, Claire is like what right wing party members used to be like but no longer are on the whole. The only reason she’s in the Tories is because the BNP and UKIP have stricter membership criteria, not becasue they’re actually anything like her.
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3 questions 1 why havent the tories asked her to leave?
2 why did she say it was like coming home
3 UKip bod online said there was no such thing as homophobia ( do they hate gays?) so much for quality control
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Yes they do have standards it seems , before they were a bunch of mindless bigots, now they have discussion forums on holocaust saying that whilst the holocaust DID happen it wasnt that bad as there had been others ( i bet they were all glad of wikipedia that way it made them look knowledgable)
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The BNP cant work out if its racist or not, hmm lets see now, this from BNP facebook blog on house of parliament visit;
Diane Abbot asks why are free prescriptions for diabetics being withdrawn? Just have to hope the government sees sense and withdraws Abbot’s passport too. Adios Abbot!
Joan Ruddock and Simon Hughes have been let out of the nursery for the day.
12.20 and there are still only 67 members present. Pubs must have opened!
Paul Goggins appeals for an umbilical cord. Strange place to make such an appeal for a half-caste patient for which stem cells don’t work to cure a problem.
Good argument against mixed race marriages missed. Shame our MPs are a bit dim.
Peter Bone says rare cancers are discriminated against.
Hadn’t he noticed discrimination is government policy against white indigenous people called the English?
Right so thats clear then.
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If someone beats the crap out of you and they are arrested, tried and convicted of beating the crap out of you, they ought to pay you some form of compensation to make good the injury they have done you.
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The TP are completely useless and toothless. What is ATOS?
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I just don’t see why you are all huffing and puffing and having the vapours. All I said was:
1. I wouldn’t want to bring up a severely disabled baby
2. no one should be paying for anyone else’s baby – disabled or not
3. when home births were the rule the midwife would dispose of any unviable disabled unwanted baby
How is any of this untrue or even controversial?
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I posed for the flag and gun photo because I knew I would be accused of being a Nazi by imbecilic members of the Liberal Left. Please tell me which Nazi policies you think I support.
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Eugenics? That would be a start.,
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as i said in the conversation last week – i recoil from the thought of what damage would have made this woman so inhuman. my belief is that we urgently need to create a world where the horrors that would create such twisted and hate filled minds i s impossible.
this is exactly how humanity recreates its cruelty and hands it down. we must do this if we want evolve. to allow it to continue just recreates generational abuse, such as the current policies of destroying the vulnerable.
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Thats interesting TP useless , yeah far too liberal them lot they were complaining about corporate tax avoiders taking their proceeds abroad to avoid paying tax , funnily enough those proceeds are er tax payers money. How about that?
Ok Atos are an IT company who currently have a huge govt contract assessing people on benefit with a fit for work progran. They’ve been criticised for wrongly assessing ppl as fit for work when clearly they are not. People have even died after being wrongly assessed, but hey thats the feckless for you, anything to avoid work eh? Still, since they are dead it will save a few bob from the taxpayer now wont it? Lucky us,
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I would argue that supporting marriage is eugenic in that it prevents degeneracy.
What “damage” do you think I would do? All I have proposed is that the parents of the unviable unwanted disabled infant have the option of disposing of it without getting into trouble with the law.
WHAT. IS. THE. PROBLEM?
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Disposing of it ? Like chucking it in a wheely bin? Oh know we’re back to tax payers money again , you know council tax / bin men and all that..
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The ancients would dispose of their unwanted babies by exposing it. What do you suggest if (a) the parents reject it (b) no one else wants it?
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I would abolish the welfare state altogether.
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Compensating you but without being convicted of any crime? Hey but then the hapless victim would have to go to hospital to be treated for injury and we are back again into tax payers money again, damn those bastions of state communism NHS hospitals , having free healthcare just encourages freeloading ppl to be sick dont it? You should campaign to have them all closed down , just think of the money saved but then richard branson wouldnt have a money pot to rob then would he?
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When i said convicted i also meant jailed but here we go prisons cost money you know tax payers money .. Hey wont dont we abolish crime .. See how that works.,
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Exposing it? To what? Kryptonit? Oh we’re getting into super beings and master race land now. So this disposing malarky., you meab like using doctors who are subject to the law like adolf shipman who helped his patients on their way to heaven albeit a bit earlier than they anticipated.
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As far as I know, Harold Shipman disposed only of his elderly patients for reasons best known to himself.
As for the ancients exposing their unwanted infants, I imagine no one wanted to do the evil deed even then either, so they would let the infant serve as food to a passing animal that might happen to be hungry so that it would be useful to some creature for once in its life.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midwifery#Early_historical_perspective
“After the delivery, the midwife made the initial call on whether or not an infant was healthy and fit to rear. She inspected the newborn for congenital deformities and testing its cry to hear whether or not it was robust and hearty. Ultimately, midwives made a determination about the chances for an infant’s survival and likely recommended that a newborn with any severe deformities be exposed.”
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I would appreciate your answers to my questions viz
1. What do you think should happen to unwanted unviable babies that are rejected by their parents?
2. Why should anyone pay for the children of anyone else, disabled or not?
3. Would you wish to bring up a severely disabled baby such as Riven Vincent’s Celyn, who is blind, cannot lift her head or any of her limbs?
4. If you would not wish to bring it up yourself, why would you wish to burden anyone else with it?
5. If no one wishes to bring it up, how should it be disposed of?
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Hooray ! We will be free from sickness and idleness forever.. Utopia beckons..
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Claire, child murder has always been illegal.
By the way, do you also support post-natal abortion?
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The point of your ‘argument’ revolves around cost. Maybe you should work for ian duncan smith, mind you not a good idea since hes a tax payers money scrounger too, isnt he in the tory party or something?
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Aren’t you concerned about cost? Apparently not. When people are not concerned about the cost it means that they are not paying.
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Well we could put all kids in care homes so they can be abused by paedos from the establishment.. That suit you? Oh i meant non tax payer funded ones like the byrn estyn one frequented by ppl that have connections to noble ppl..
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Allegedly ..,
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I propose to legalise infanticide if committed by the parents of the unviable disabled unwanted infant or by anyone instructed by them to commit infanticide.
What harm do you think would come of this policy? We will have fewer disabled people around. Why would you want more rather than fewer disabled people around?
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Bob Chewie is quite right in saying that I would abolish the NHS.
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What will we do with all those wheelchairs? Some of them were made by (ugh! ) disabled ‘people’ der untermenschen as you would calk them
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“As far as I know, Harold Shipman disposed only of his elderly patients for reasons best known to himself.”
His mind had been permanently addled by pethidine addiction.
What’s your excuse? Are you stupid or just downright evil?
“As for the ancients exposing their unwanted infants, I imagine no one wanted to do the evil deed even then either, so they would let the infant serve as food to a passing animal that might happen to be hungry so that it would be useful to some creature for once in its life.”
You are – of course – quite mistaken. The baby would be left outside the house but in a clay pot, specifically to protect it from carnivorous beasts. It might perish from thirst, hunger or hypothermia, but it might equally be saved by a passer-by. It was finally forbidden in 374 AD.
Disability or obvious deformity was not the commonest cause for a child being rejected and exposed; the commonest cause was that the child was female.
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Im glad you said that, just think what we could do with the land, more shopping malls..even more branches of tescos.. A shopping paradise..
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1 – i cannot respond to the word “unviable” as there is no such description of a human being. however any child (human being, not empty tin can) whose parents are unable to care for, that child would be cared for in the myriad of ways that they are now – by a humane and intelligent society that knows that every life deserves the best chance it can have. that also knows that we are not gods and that murder is wrong, as is putting money before human life.
2. because again it is the humane and caring thing to do. money is to serve humanity not rule it. everyone on the planet has a humane duty to care in any way it can for any other vulnerable member of its society. (even the hopelessly damaged ones like yourself)
3. until the situation arises i don’t know. but i do know that i, along with other humane and caring people, would do all we could to ensure that that child had every chance to live as full a life as possible. the thought of that child being “disposed of” would never even occur in any way as it is beyond obscene in every way.
we have the resources both personally and as a society to do this as the least, and in fact much much more.
4. despite the word burden, which is again not part of any sane person’s agenda in such a case, caring and humane people would be only too glad to help support any member of our society who was able to care for this child. again anything else is selfish narcissistic and cruel beyond imagining.
5. it is to our credit as humans that such a question is impossible to answer, and in fact should never be asked in the first place. it again implies that there is such a thing as a wasted life, and that anyone could possibly have the right to decide such a thing. its beyond unanswerable and deeply disturbing that you would even have those kind of thoughts.
Claire you are a severely damaged and dangerous person. again i urge you to seek the best possible psychological help available and commit yourself to the very painful and difficult path of regaining your lost humanity. its deeply hidden but its there somewhere. all this provocative attention seeking is really a strong cry for help.
if enough people call you a horse, go buy a saddle.
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Just got to figure out how to stop all this getting sick stuff thats all, hey why not ban it? Lets try that …
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Don’t feed teh (obvious) troll. Poison it with satire, and throw the carcass zu die Leere.
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Have you been in touch with jeremy hunt on yr NHS ideas? I think he will agree with you there. Funnily enough hes the secretary of state for health ( his other job) maybe you have found your new home after all.
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I wonder if clare has been contacted by jerrny kyle yet? Ive heard the ratings on his show has been flagging of late.. Needs perking up a bit.,
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Meh. She isn’t different, original or unusual. She’s a wind up merchant you can find in any random household anywhere. The world is full of (ahum) people who are weird and wonderful who think their crapped out views should be be discussed.
I don’t understand why this attention seeker is getting the air of publicity. She needs something to keep her occupied. In the old days, we used to call them social trolls, and refuse to buy them beer, The taxi driver would charge an extra tenner in case they up chucked in the taxi……
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it can be fruitless, indeed. for me its showing just how damaged we can be. i want to create a better society where we can avoid others being damaged in this way, if thats possible. maybe then we can start to create rather than destroy. “even trolls have souls” ha, just made that one up!
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I know i know i keep telling myself that but the ‘entertainment value ‘ was too much to resist’ and theres not much on the telly of late.. Just poverty crap and x factor which oddly enough are symbiotically related, as both are about ‘poor’ as in devoid of any real value.
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The Jeremy Kyle Show is really for CHAVs who have issues with each other they want to resolved on daytime TV. I should be on the Andrew Marr Show or The Moral Maze.
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Apart from making simon coward rich out of exploiting poor ppls delusions of being ‘famous’
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Yeah probbly right there., oh well wasnt up to much anyway., just a few places to invade, today iceland (the shop) tomorrow ze world !!
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IDS is a pussy cat who is afraid of being seen to be criticising SSMs.
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The BNP are mostly plebs. That is their problem.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pater_familias#Children
‘The laws of the Twelve Tables required the pater familias to ensure that “obviously deformed” infants were put to death.’
As you can see, it was not Hitler who invented eugenics.
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Clare , we’re bored now ok? You’ve had your fun but as a parent would say ” enough! now go to your room” bye.
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What is the point of making other people pay to keep alive an unviable disabled deformed baby whose parents have rejected it?
If the parents do wish to bring it up, they should not expect anyone else to pay for their children, whether disabled or not.
If you are so unmanned that cannot bear to think about it, then don’t, but don’t pretend you know better than me when you have admitted that you don’t know the answer to my questions and can’t bear to think about it!
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“The Jeremy Kyle Show is really for CHAVs who have issues with each other they want to resolved on daytime TV. I should be on the Andrew Marr Show or The Moral Maze.”
No.
You should be confined to a padded cell between those times when you may practise your oratory to the inanimate occipants of Madame Tussaud’s waxwork when the galleries are closed to the public.
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“Claire you are a severely damaged and dangerous person. Again, I urge you to seek the best possible psychological help available and commit yourself to the very painful and difficult path of regaining your lost humanity. It’s deeply hidden but it’s there somewhere. All this provocative attention seeking is really a strong cry for help.”
Amen to that, Paul.
I would add that in ethically and morally positioning herself to be less than an “unviable”, unwanted adult she should experience some kind of heavenly spontaneously combustion.
That way, she can disappear into nothing more than a plume of smoke and some crumbles of ash. In doing so, this will save the NHS, local bin man and anyone else involved in the aftermath of her sorry ass being ceremoniously dumped into the abyss of hell where her monstrous ideology belongs will result in nil expenditure to the tax paying public.
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You did not answer my question, Claire – do you support post natal abortion?
I suspect that you do. Here are two more:
1) How late would you allow post natal abortions to be done?
2) How would you treat people who are incurably ill?
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Lol !!!
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Silly bitch.
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deranged, maybe? but silly kinda works.
my concern, and the reason i “get in the ring” is that, having seen the page, there are likely many others who agree up to a point with these fascist views.
if i was more sure that it was simply a few deranged slavering morons i probably wouldn’t bother. just walk away, which is what it will come to eventually.
scarily this type of twisted inhumanity is a result of the kind of harsh ideology being forced on us today by the tories. if un-checked it will lead to generations more broken and ultimately evil people like this, due to the level of abuse they can inflict on others.. thats deeply horrifying!
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Horse shit attracts flies and maggots
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” Yes they do have standards it seems , before they were a bunch of mindless bigots, now they have discussion forums on holocaust saying that whilst the holocaust DID happen it wasnt that bad as there had been others ( i bet they were all glad of wikipedia that way it made them look knowledgable) ”
bobchewie
I have posted on BNP internet discussion forums and found them to be fairly run. People expressing obnoxious opinions is not a problem if the Admins are allowing a wide range of views to be aired. By contrast, The Haaretz and Huffington Post web presences are a thundering disgrace as they regularly run articles which are conflicted with the basic requirements of the State of Israel to survive and if one is not a leftist Zombie who thinks the extermination of approximately six million Jews by the Third Reich is a tragedy as more Jews should have been exterminated or some other type of filth or well intentioned useful idiot they simply will not allow one’s postings to appear in their discussion pages.
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@ Paul Barnard, just a bit of info for you. Facebook is massively and pervasively hacked at a systems level by Islamonazis / Islamofascists or their fellow travelers. Very high profile Facebook pages are compromised, for example, The White House ( US President ) and the US State Dept Facebook pages for the US London, Tel Aviv and Kabul Embassies and that is just a small sample of the Facebook pages which I know to be compromised. Furthermore, it is a serious possibility that the hackers have substantial control of every Fanpage on Facebook. If by any chance you happen to see examples of this hacking activity on Facebook, I wouldn’t think it a good idea to report it to Facebook as Facebook themselves are mixed up in the hacking and the hackers are serious people, one possibility is that the hackers are the Russian Foreign Intelligence Service.
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@ Claire Khaw have you ever though of applying for a position with Facebook, you sound to me just like the sort of person Mark Zuckerberg would want taking a senior role in his organization. I think including the photo with the gun and the Swastika in any application you might make, would be a major advantage.
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And ‘they’ would want to do this because.,? They like looking at peoples holiday snaps or who thought who should have won on x factor..,right..
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Lets see now: zuckerberg (jewish) muslims and russians .. Ok.. geddit..
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” And ‘they’ would want to do this because.,? They like looking at peoples holiday snaps or who thought who should have won on x factor..,right.. ”
bobchewie
So for example bobchewie, if you were on the London subway and an Islamist suicide bomber detonated a bomb and turned the train carriage you were in to a fireball and they had become involved in supporting Islamism from being indoctrinated in to supporting Islamism through using Facebook, this would not be a problem to you and the other passengers because you would immediately cool the carriage through using your super-hero powers to control temperature, that is if you had not allready spotted the bomb and defused it using your super-hero x-ray vision etc, correct ? In consideration of your line of argument bobchewie, are you a clinical psychologist or a psychiatrist attempting a linguistic sleight of hand or are you a person who genuinely knows nothing about the social media ?
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” Lets see now: zuckerberg (jewish) muslims and russians .. Ok.. geddit..”
bobchewie
If you are making an argument that the fact that Mr Mark Zuckerberg has Jewish ancestry makes it an impossibility that he would do anything that would impact negatively on Jewish people such as, for example, as a possible scenario of Mr Zuckerberg willfully allowing Facebook to be hijacked as a propaganda vehicle for Arab racial supremacist Islamists through being compromised by a professional hacking operation, presumably you would also believe that, for example, Mr George Galloway would absolutely defend the rights of Scottish people in the UK, ( with such rights being viewed from a liberal Western perspective ), if he was to become Prime Minister of the UK because of his ( I presume ) Scottish ethnicity ?
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Wasn’t Hitler 1/4 Jewish?
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And 1/8 Arab, and 1/32 Inuit.
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Claire Khaw
Your disregard for human life is shocking.
We spoke on Facebook a while ago and I too thought you were joking.
You need help, spiritual, medical or both.
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“spiritual” – that’s the damnedest thing. You’re right, it’s a moral deficit.
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Yes it is, but it can change.
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To be fair Claire has come from a barbaric part of the World, when you walk around where she comes from you have to be careful not to trip up on dead discarded babies. During the Beijing Olympics they had to have special cleaning squads brought in to clear up dead babies off the street as it would embarrass the officials.Some orientals are more sophisticated and utilises the Carcass as a dead baby has the same status as veal out there. Please don’t come down to hard on Claire its how she was brought up?
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Sir…….. that is racist …… and daft.
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Its fact not opinion!
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Ok a lot of you do not agree with Claire corrs libertarian Tory views on the value of human life, but this is the principle of Conservatism survival of the fittest sink or swim unless you are a bankster and you can get help of a bale out and continuous quantative easing. The Conservatives see compassion as a form of weakness so why do they get so appalled by what Claire says?
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“You did not answer my question, Claire – do you support post natal abortion?”
I suppose you mean infanticide. I have already said I think parents of unviable disabled babies should be given the OPTION of disposing of it without getting into trouble with the law.
“How late would you allow post natal abortions to be done?”
The law defines an infant as under 12 months.
“How would you treat people who are incurably ill?”
Currently they go to hospices and I do not propose to change this.
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Er its called public relations exercise, the tories dont want to be seen as the nasty party ( which is what they are) so are wetting themselves over this. Mind you closet fascists in the party are happy with this . Arbeit macht frei and all that. Hence the latest forcing really sick people into useless ‘work programs’
But hey lets euthanise all the disabled first, umm then how the hell can these companies make a profit if we stop all this free labour?
Damn, they would have to employ fit people and pay real wages.., mind you they could avoid litigation against injury and illness at work could they… You dont think they would try that do you? Oh wait..
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I thought russians werent communists any more.. What a pact between russians, islamists and jewish ppl?
To target western imperialism capitalsm..thats messed up surely to jewish business, russian business and arab business unless its a business ‘war’ .. Discuss..
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A good addition to our party.Can’t wait to meet her and discuss new policy.
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Lord Sir Alan Bastard may like what he sees at http://thevoiceofreason-ann.blogspot.co.uk/2011/08/how-to-reinvigorate-british-economy.html
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TOM I GOT STUFF 4 U SENT U MAIL TO DO Roads
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The BNP have some none white members to purpotrate the myth that they are not a racist or fascist party they are in fact a fascist party with fascist views and ideology
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What is a “fascist party”?
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Fascist = liberal wing of ukip
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What my detractors so hysterically condemn me for proposing is already happening in UK hospitals
http://thevoiceofreason-ann.blogspot.co.uk/2012/12/what-my-detractors-so-hysterically.html
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Millions of babies being put down and no one would notice. So tell me about this attention seeking problem you have, when did it start?
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It wouldn’t be millions of babies, and you know it, and you would never know about them anyway. I have a message I want to propagate and all this attention you lot are giving me is very helpful.
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You suggested that there had already been wuite a lot of babies put down , i wonderd why we hadnt heard about it so much.
Regarding your attention seeking condition , its rather in the area of disturbed child wanting there own way all the time.
Basically we’re bored with you . I dont mind weird humour even bad taste. But you need a better act..
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You can follow me on Twitter at https://twitter.com/1party4all
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http://thebattlefieldoflove.blogspot.co.uk is where you can find me blogging against feminism.
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Did you get councelling or was it not helpful?
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No thanks got other stuff to do .. The destitution market and all that..
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Claire, have you met Dr Tara Palmatier? http://shrink4men.tk And the wider “Mens Rights Movement” – don’t be alone; you can buff your pathology in the company of like minded err… eejits.
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Thanks for drawing that to my attention, Harry!
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I think http://thebattlefieldoflove.blogspot.co.uk/ is better though.
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Tom Pride is a noob for making these references while writing this guff.
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Dear Billy,
Thank you for your email regarding EU funding of extremist parties.
I can confirm that both UK Green MEPs, myself and Keith Taylor, have signed the petition to initiate the procedure to stop EU funding of the Alliance of European National Movements (AENM).
The Alliance of European National Movements (AENM) is made up of fascist and racist MEPs from the UK, France, Hungary and Bulgaria, and includes the BNP. The EU’s Secretary General is currently recommending that they get at much as €400,000 – more than £300,000. This is unacceptable and is, in my view, against Parliamentary rules. Parliamentary rules mean that EU funding should only be given where parties observe the values of the European Union, “namely respect for human dignity, freedom, democracy, equality, the rule of law and respect for human rights, including the rights of persons belonging to minorities”. The AENM clearly fails to meet this criteria, and providing them with funding would make a mockery of these standards.
Green MEPs want a diverse and peaceful Europe. The UK Green MEPs stand together with MEPs from across the European Parliament in support of this initiative to make sure public money is never be used to support fascist organisations such as the BNP and the Alliance of European National Movements.
A statement from Keith Taylor and myself supporting the campaign is on my website at http://www.jeanlambertmep.org. uk/news_detail.php?id=889
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Polleetickle – A noob? What the f**k’s a noob? If you’re going to insult me you’d better make it good – I’ve been insulted by the best.
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I wouldn’t worry about it. EU funding for national parties against the EU is for the purpose of distracting them from doing anything useful at home while being in the pocket of the EU.
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I am not sure if you are aware that I have been expelled from the Conservative on 20 December 2012 for saying or doing something that is inconsistent with the aims, values and principles of the Conservative Party.
For some strange reason, they won’t say what it was that I did that was merited expulsion nor will they say what the aims, values and principles of the Conservative Party are.
http://thevoiceofreason-ann.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/my-open-letter-to-conservative-party.html
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Clare maybe they thought your views on unemployment and health were too liberal. At the moment they are looking into starving ppl to death to create jobs and gassing ill people to see if it boosts the job market . Maybe if you could improve on that they might give you a job in dwp.
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bobchewie, my point is that whatever the reason they should have SAID. It is exasperating why no one seems to get it. If you were being punished, you would like to know what for, wouldn’t you?
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I dunno its pretty weird clare unless wanting to have masses of ill people exterminated might have something to do with it but I’m just guessing. As. I say see if you can get a job with welfare to work providers like EOS works or dwp. I’m sure you will fit in quite well.
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Clare you could write to mark hoban with your ideas on privatised workhouses.
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What about a combination workhouse gas chamber where the workers who have become ill on their over generous bread and water rations can be be exterminated for being workshy . Maybe atos healthcare could sponsor it.
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Who is Mark Hoban?
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I never said anything like that. Can you please address your mind to the question of people being expelled from a political party without warning or explanation?
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I know you people don’t care because it is only me, but if it happened to you or one of your friends, you might care a little bit more that they were expelled from their political party with no warning or explanation and afterwards could no longer participate in politics in meaningful way.
How would you feel if the Labour Party expelled you and you were only left with the option of joining the Socialist Workers Party?
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Claire – I’m surprised that you’re surprised by the Tory Party’s lack of democracy. I don’t think they’ve ever pretended to be particularly democratic. For example – Tory leaders are famously more free than their counterparts in other parties to do as he or she wishes without much need for votes at conferences or agreement at local party level or whatever.
I’m not saying the other parties are particularly democratic either – but the Tories are less so. That’s what comes of trying to be a member of a party led by old-fashioned conservative patricians.
I can tell you why they expelled you.
Just about all political parties are designed to win elections. Rightly or wrongly that is the number one interest of the hierarchy. Nothing is more important than that – not morality, national interest or democracy.
The reason they expelled you is simple. Your comments and openly stated views on killing disabled babies – to mention just one – are not conducive to winning votes or winning elections.
So they expelled you.
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Whatever their reasons for expelling me, they should state it, should they not? They stated that I acted in a way that was “wholly inconsistent with the aims, objectives and principles of the Party”.
I merely ask them to state what those principles are and how I have infringed them.
Am I really not entitled to receive an answer?
Do you not wish me to receive an answer?
Do you not think that the answer would in some way be quite entertaining and educational?
Will you not help me obtain an answer?
Is not the idea of the Conservative Party looking high and low for their principles that they have lost or perhaps never had too funny for words?
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The Labour Party have their principles at http://www.labour.ie/party/constitution.html
The LibDems have theirs at http://www.libdems.org.uk/constitution.aspx
UKIP have theirs at http://www.ukip.org/content/manifestos-and-literature/1410-ukip-constitution
The BNP have theirs at http://www.bnp.org.uk/sites/default/files/final_amended_12.3_constitution_19.10.11.pdf
Where is the Conservative Party’s?
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Employment minister for the party that threw you out
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This is a joke yes ?
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Well – yes – of course they should answer you but no – you’re not entitled to an answer because they’re not democratic. I expect they feel that by getting into a correspondence with you they will just be drawing attention to the whole thing – which they don’t want.
And, yes – the answer would be most interesting and entertaining.
But I have to say – as an unapologetic lefty – the idea that the Tory Party never had any principles is not at all funny to me but just a statement of fact.
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“AK 47s and swastika flags. The face of todays Conservative Party?
Pride’s Purge” actually makes myself think a small amount extra. I really admired every single part of it. Thanks ,Jacqueline
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Pride’s Purge is one of the few places online where free speech is allowed.
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I think you people should support me in my bid to prove that Conservative Party has no principles.
I am sure this is something that the Labour Party would enjoy doing. Do please think about organising some support for this because I will need professional legal help to do so.
It is one thing to BELIEVE, as you do, that they have no principles, but quite another to PROVE that they do not.
This will in no harm way the Labour Party because they at least have a constitution that states their principles in clause iv. They at least have done their constitutional house-keeping!
I am not just doing it for myself, you know. I think it is in the public interest to demonstrate that the constitution of the Conservative Party is indeed a tyrant’s charter.
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It’s free as long as 3 mobile don’t block you .. its probably free ier than the guardian which has become two faced of late
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Claire – I regard myself as a left-wing libertarian. Free speech is a valuable commodity which should not just be protected but nurtured.
Bob – The Guardian blocked me from commenting over two years ago. When they first temporarily put me on moderation for commenting, I sent them a message asking them why.
Their response? To block me permanently without explanation.
I could probably get round it but I don’t think I can be bothered.
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People of all political hues who believe in free speech should unite. No free speech, no rational discussion of anything. This means everything we do will be wrong and stupid and mad.
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@Claire tom doesn’t charge that much for his free speech his rates are quite fair.
Btw tom what’s going on with the messham stuff as i am getting mixed messages here.
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What were you saying that the Guardian disliked?
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@Claire your views are abhorrent to anyone vaguely sane. No main stream party would want you so quit bleating and being a cry baby and trying to cosy up to any left leaning party unless thats your intention in order to discredit them in which case it won’t work. You are on your own. You put your self there.live with it.
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all I am hearing from Claire is from an attention seeking child saying ‘its not fair It’s not fair ‘ well disabled ppl being attacked on a daily basis as being a drain on economy isn’t fair.
I suspect the reason Tories kicked you out is cos this benefit scrounger disabled rhetoric does not help them push through their disgusting welfare ‘reforms’ its become an embarassment for them so it makes sense to kick you out. By doing so has drawn attention to what they are up to..
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It doesn’t matter what their unstated reasons are. I just want to force them to give a reason that is official.
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Claire – they probably didn’t like my attacking their precious Liberal Democrats.
And they don’t like the fact that I don’t actually exist.
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When is Claire going to wake up and find like the rest of us that the country is being robbed not by an army of malingers and feckless sick ppl but bloody parasitic corporations making a fortune out of the welfare ‘reforms’ eg work program providers in collusion with target driven DWP maniacs..maybe she should work for DWP as they treat sick ppl as lying theiving bastards. As well workfare pimps..
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What were you saying about the LibDems?
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I am actually making a public interest point about how unprotected the mebers are in the Conservative Party. The reason why they are so useless is because they know they have no rights and will be punished by the leader and his cronies unfairly with no redress if they do anything that is disliked by the leader and his cronies. Do you still not get it?
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Oh by the way Claire it seems that nick griffins dad used to work for Iain Duncan smith when he was trying to be party leader. He resigned as he didn’t want to be an embarassment to the party.
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Bob – what do you know about Steven Messham? He hasn’t tweeted since mid-December.
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In case this didn’t post. Griffins dad resign from Tories he supported Ian drunken shit.
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Just for the record, you should know that I favour a one-party state.
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@tom check out latest spivey blog. He’s claiming messham sold his soul..
So like you I am at odds.
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@tom can we email please cos. I am at odds on a lot of stuff. Just email me first so I know you are listening. Be aware that this handset is not good for this stuff. I will try and explain as best I can ok?
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@claire we have these election things where Joe public can kick out a govt . But since you believe in one party state that won’t happen. I wish I hadnt returned to this blog now . It’s the Claire khaw show..
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Most voters are STUPID and most politicians are too afraid of discussing anything without fear or favour. If elections did any good they would abolish it.
What I am talking about is the rights of people who participate in politics. They should be able to express their views without fear or favour.
If they can be expelled with no reason or explanation how likely are they to have full and frank discussions about anything?
I will shut up the moment you show that you understand what I am trying to say.
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@tom you don’t exist ? You’re not David rose are you ? Lol
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@Claire politics is driven by fulfilling business needs ie the donators who pay the most and their lobbyists. Ok?
So are you gonna keep your word and shut up ?
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You are still not getting it. Do you not see that those who participate in politics should be allowed to criticise current policy without fear of expulsion and demotion?
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You are not crticising policy just promoting your own. Is that shut up promise still on ?
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I am, just pointing out that the Conservative Party members have no rights because they can be expelled without warning or explanation. Would you be OK about being expelled from your party without warning or explanation?
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They can be expelled for lots of things eg child abuse .. taking bribes etc maybe you are in favour of all that. after all what’s the fuss eh ? Will you shut up now?
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Of course you shouldn’t be a convicted a criminal and a member of a political party. Do you think a member should be expelled for expressing his political views in a political party?
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Claire its you who don’t get it. Often. Tory mps do put across their own views except in truth they are representing big business or its from a think tank paid by business . Do you think these idiots are able to think for themselves ?
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If a Tory MP wants to express something controversial and of national importance should her or she be expelled or demoted just because the leader and his cronies disagree with him or her?
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They don’t express their own views just crap that some think tank has dreamt up or what a company has paid them to say..
I don’t think they have any views..they are just a vending machine of crap
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Claire – it’s best to comment on the most up-to-date blogposts if you want to debate. Few people will see the comments here because it’s a relatively old post.
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Being a Tory mp isn’t about serving their country its just a career move as next stop is being an advisor or on the board of directors..
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If you are a member of ANY political party, should have a right to express your views without fearing that you may be expelled without explanation or warning?
Tom, I just want to get through to BobChewie!
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@thanks tom for intervening there. Releif !! As I said if you want to email me i will explain that other more important business…
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Just a suggestion
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to claire khaw you should write to the freedom of information act, thats if your not expelled from that as well.
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claire khaw write to the freedom of information acts if you want to know why you were expeled, or have you been expeled from them as well.
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to claire khaw, i dont know which is the ugliest the swastika flag in the picture with you or you claire a flag like that is unwanted in england they murdered a lot of men women and children with that flag blowing in the air, burn your flag you may get some support.
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how can the liverpool care pathway be an independant inquiry when the chairwomen supports it that cannot be an independent enquiry one little bit.
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it goes to show claire your as thick as pig shit if you dont know what atos is its no wonder the conservatives threw you on the garbage patch. ill give you a clue its a french firm doing a firm job for prime sinister david packoflies.
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i think claire with a face like that should have been terminated, at birth, that face would scare a ghost. because she is all for termination.
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We are agreed you do not like Claire Khaw)
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I was told by Stephen Phillips on 15 January 2013 by email that “subject matter personally attributed to you which were wholly inconsistent with the aims, objectives and principles of the Party.”
Despite repeated requests to be told what the aims, objectives and principles of the party were, my question was not even acknowledged, much less addressed or answered properly or at all.
However, I was given a list of “Key Episodes” which were deemed to be “wholly inconsistent with the aims, objectives and principles of the party”.
KEY EPISODE 1
Pictured in front of swastika holding gun. A website called ‘EDL News’ contains a picture of Khaw in front of a swastika, holding a gun, as does a blog entitled ‘Griffin Watch’ (EDL News, 17 September 2012, link: Griffin Watch, 29 November 2012, http://griffinwatch-nwn.blogspot.co.uk/2012/11/khaw-blimey-camerons-latest-recruit.html)
I am no more a Nazi in that photograph than I would be a policeman if I were photographed standing outside a police station. As for why I did it, it was quite clearly for the publicity which very effectively brought me to the attention of British nationalists up and down the land, and now, of course, the Conservative Party itself. It is my contention that if the Conservative Party were doing its job properly, there would be no need for UKIP or the BNP. I wish to be a member of the Conservative Party in order to help it promote Conservative principles so as to prevent the further marginalisation of those who regard themselves as social conservatives. It is farcical and ridiculous that a Conservative Prime Minister should be proposing to legalise “gay marriage” while his government has not implemented a single policy that would support the institution of marriage between heterosexual couples capable of sexual reproduction and bringing up the next generation nor will it criticise never married single mothers who are the cause of widespread illegitimacy which is the cause of national decline. If the Conservative Party refuses to support the institutions of marriage and family and instead desecrates it by falling in with the liberal feminist agenda, then it is clearly not implementing Conservative principles at all. In any case, that photograph was taken in April 2012, before I joined the Conservative Party.
KEY EPISODE 2
Refers to Jews as ‘a global metaphor for the rich and powerful who exploit the poor’. Khaw blogged on 13 February 2012, ‘I think Jews are the teacher’s pet in a class of bullies and dunces who envy the teacher’s pet but who refuse to work hard while not being particularly clever. Jews are perhaps a global metaphor for the ‘rich and powerful who exploit the poor.” (The Voice of Reason blog, 13 February 2012, http://griffinwatch-nwn.blogspot.co.uk/2012/11/khaw-blimey-camerons-latest-recruit.html)
I am praising Jews for their cleverness and teacher’s pet status which would cause the bullies and dunces of the world to envy and hate them. How is this antisemitic or against the principles of the Conservative Party, whatever they are? In any case, this was said before I joined the Conservative Party.
KEY EPISODE 3
Refers to Grant Shapps as ‘Jewish millionaire’ and ‘spivocrat’. In a blog post Khaw wrote on 5 December 2012: “Grant Shapps, Jewish millionaire and now Chairman of the Conservative Party … is the greatest spivocrat of all’ – unclear if quoting someone else or stating her own views (The Voice of Reason Blog, 5 December 2012 http://thevoiceofreason-ann.blogspot.co.uk/2012/12/nationalism-wont-ever-get-off-ground.html)
I was indeed quoting Peter Rushton whose talk I was reviewing on my blog. It was not I who coined the term ‘spivocrat’, but Peter Rushton, as any viewing of the video would reveal. Anti-semitism is endemic in Christian Europe so it cannot be that my reporting of what someone who may dislike Jews says makes me guilty of antisemitism. How is reporting what someone else said against the principles of the Conservative Party, whatever they are?
KEY EPISODE 4
Suggested on a radio phone-in that a disabled child should have been smothered at birth. Claire Khaw appears to have told a BBC 5 Live phone-in in March 2011 with reference to a severely disabled child: “She should smothered it after it was born, shouldn’t she, rather than expect the taxpayer to pick up the bill? Why should the taxpayer pay for her severely disabled child? Ask her that. Professional sympathy seeker. Well, she ain’t getting none from me. We all know lots of mothers tote their severely disabled children around to get attention and rise in the pecking order of a group of mums. The more disabled your child, the higher you are in the pecking order.” (The Voice of Reason Blog, 2 March 2011 http://thevoiceofreason-ann.blogspot.co.uk/2011/03/claire-khaw-on-victoria-derbyshire-show.html)
How is voicing this opinion – however offensive to some – against the the principles of the Conservative Party, whatever they are? There is nothing morally or intellectually indefensible about what I said or tried to say during the phone-in, which was that
(a) I would not wish to bring up a severely disabled child
(b) no one should have to pay to maintain the children of other parents, whether able-bodied or disabled
(c) when home births were the rule rather than the exception, the midwife would dispose of unwanted unviable severely disabled babies.
This was said in contemplation of the problem mentioned at http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2011/may/31/care-failing-those-with-learning-disability
” … people with a learning disability, whose numbers are growing by up to 5% a year … ”
Is the Conservative Party against the principle of free speech and the discussion of anything controversial? It is after all a political party and must necessarily discuss difficult issues that affect the long-term national interest. In any case, that phone-in took place before I joined the Conservative Party.
KEY EPISODE 5
Appears to be in favour of honour killings. Tweeted on 5 December ‘The practice of honour killings suggest that Asians have a sense of honour while non-Asians do not, perhaps.’ (Claire Khaw’s Twitter, 5 December 2012).
How is pointing out that the British these days seem to have a defective sense of honour and appear to feel no shame in their Culture of Excuses and Entitlement against the principles of the Conservative Party, whatever they are?
KEY EPISODE 6
Banned from BNP. Khaw was expelled from the BNP in July 2011. Published correspondence from the party suggests ‘the comments you made regarding disabled children were deemed to be unacceptable.’ (The Voice of Reason Blog, 7 July 2011 http://thevoiceofreason-ann.blogspot.co.uk/2011/07/claire-khaw-expelled-from-bnp.html)
How is being expelled from the BNP against the principles of Conservative Party, whatever they are? The comments referred to were the comments made on the Victoria Derbyshire Show on BBC Radio 5 Live mentioned above.
KEY EPISODE 7
Boasts of being banned from ‘every nationalist party’ in Britain. Khaw wrote in a blog on 5 December 2012: ‘I have been banned from every single nationalist party in the land on trumped up charges and spurious accusations.’ http://thevoiceofreason-ann.blogspot.co.uk/2012/12/nationalism-wont-ever-get-off-ground.html
How is being banned from nationalist parties and meetings (probably because I am (a) not white , (b) a civic nationalist (c) an anti-feminist or (d) persona non grata for any other reason that I am not aware of ) against any principle of the Conservative Party, whatever they are?
KEY EPISODE 8
Suggested illegal immigrants should be made slaves. Khaw is quoted as saying on her Facebook page: “I see no harm in introducing a form of slavery with those who don’t have the right papers and aren’t British citizens. After five years they are free to go. They can re-enslave themselves for a further five years and thereafter become British citizens. It would solve the Labour shortage … Then everyone would be happy.” Guardian, 29 April 2010 http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/apr/29/stephen-bates-diary
How is engaging in what the Guardian described as “banter” against any of the principles of the Conservative Party, whatever they are? In any case, I made that comment before I joined the Conservative Party.
KEY EPISODE 9
Anti-Semitic jokes. Tweeted on 11 December 2012 “Banned from posting for 7 days for posting a rabbi joke on a rabbi Facebook account!” (Claire Khaw’s Twitter, 11 December 2012 http://thevoiceofreason-ann.blogspot.co.uk/2012/12/banned-from-posting-for-7-days-for.html)
How is telling a Jewish joke (Rabbi Zvi Solomons on whose wall I posted this himself tells me he did not find the joke offensive) against the principles of the Conservative Party, whatever they are?
Below is the exchange I had with him after my ban from posting:
13 December 2012
10:33
Claire Khaw
Was it your missus who reported me, Rabbi?
10:34
Rabbi Zvi Solomons
?
10:35
Claire Khaw
Reported me for posting that rabbi joke on your wall, I mean.
It must have been one of your Facebook friends.
If you said it wasn’t you.
10:35
Rabbi Zvi Solomons
Shame.
10:35
Claire Khaw
Yes, it is a shame that Jews these days don’t appreciate Jewish jokes!
10:36
Rabbi Zvi Solomons
It might have been a gentile. Some of my best Gentiles are friends…
10:37
Claire Khaw
Gentiles are such hypocrites.
10:37
Rabbi Zvi Solomons
So they’re human.
10:37
Claire Khaw
I bet it was a woman.
No sensayumah.
KEY EPISODE 10
Wants a one party state. On her LinkedIn profile, Claire Khaw states that one of her goals is to convince enough people of the merits of having a one-party state and to guide its formation. “to convince enough people of the merits of having a one-party state and to guide its formation, before one is imposed on us”
Claire Khaws’ LinkedIn profile, accessed 12 December 2012 http://www.linkedin.com/in/1party4all)
How is it against the principles of the Conservative Party, whatever they are, to propose what is in effect electoral reform along the lines of Peter Bone MP’s House of Commons (Disqualification) Bill mentioned at http://conservativehome.blogs.com/parliament/2010/10/peter-bone-seeks-to-abolish-the-flatterers-cajolers-and-sometime-bullies-that-are-the-party-whips.html?
Since it is being claimed by the Secretary of the Board that I have acted in a way that is claimed to be “wholly inconsistent with the aims, objectives and principles of the Party” it is incumbent on the Party to state what they are.
Surely no decision can be made as to this appeal until and unless the principles of the Conservative Party have been officially stated as well as how I have been alleged to act against them demonstrated?
CLAIRE KHAW
5 March 2013
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Glad that’s cleared up. We see past race if your evil enough.
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http://thevoiceofreason-ann.blogspot.co.uk/2013/04/chairman-of-conservative-party-claims-i.html
Chairman of the Conservative Party claims I can find the aims, objectives and principles of the Conservative Party in this piece of puffery
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Are you saying I am evil?
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noooooo make it go awaaaaay…
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You better not be saying I am evil.
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no but you are a pain in the arse
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@bobchewie “By doing so has drawn attention to what they are up to..” now that hits the spot – ta for that!
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I remember she got on to a debate on Radio 5. She aired her veiws about murdering disabled babies but what shecked me more was that on mid morning BBC radio she was not only allowed to propose the murder of disabled people, the programe then went on to debate that view
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That is shocking! It’s disgraceful that any political party would accept someone with views like that. I would like to challenge your use of “mentalist”. The term actually refers to a type if magician which is clearly inaccurate here. Another colloquial useage is a slur used to describe people with mental illness. I think this is also wrong. As someone who is mentally I’ll I’d rather not be associated with people with such appalling views. There are many more accurate words you could use to describe this bag of bile but “mentalist” isn’t one of them. Such as hate filled, erroneous lumpen shit sack. That is accurate and non offensive to anyone but the people that should be offended. Thanks.
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Please just don’t give any space to this attention seeking ………..
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Myanmarian?
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Seems the Conservative Party are happy to have fascists in their midst.
Greenwich Conservative Party allowed a local far-right winger, Terry Wheeler (who I’ve known personally 15 years) to join their party earlier this year. Then they fast-tracked him onto their council candidates list for the 2014 local elections, with Peninsula Ward earmarked for him, as he is known as a community activist., despite his right wing views, which he attempts to hide, but lets slip when you know him.
I outed Mr Wheeler on Twitter two weeks ago, after he posted anti-Muslim comments on the neo-fascist “British Patriots Society” Facebook site. I posted the comments, but as yet, the Greenwich Conservative Party have not made any comment.
Obviously I am watching with interest to see if the still select him as a Conservative Party candidate for Peninsula Ward of Greenwich Council.
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Is it really illegal now to have “right-wing” views? Well, I never!
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I said nothing about murdering disabled babies at http://thevoiceofreason-ann.blogspot.co.uk/2011/07/transcript-of-what-i-said-on-victoria.html
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Tom has got to close this blog or ppl will keep reviving the dead.
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Its not right wing..anythng its babbling insanity thats the problem .
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What have I said that could be described as “babbling insanity”?
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Why should anyone take seriously the views of anyone who is mentally ill?
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I do believe Bob Chewie wants to censor Tom Pride. My, how liberal of him.
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http://thevoiceofreason-ann.blogspot.co.uk/2013/11/khaw-v-conservative-party-hearing-on-21.html
Khaw v Conservative Party hearing on 21 January 2014
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No, it is not illegal to have neo-fascist views.
But it is dishonest to hide those views behind the banner of a party that claims not to fascist.
As with Terry Wheeler, feel free to stand for the BNP or suchlike.
To hide under the skirts of a less extreme party makes one feel that you, like Terry Wheeler, are actually ashamed and embarrassed by your own views.
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Many people with mental illness are among the most intelligent people around.
The fact that they have a very active mind can be part of the reason they have a mental illness.
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She doesn’t sound sane to me.
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I was not hiding the fact that I was a member of the Conservative Party, so it would not be quite right to claim that I was hiding “under the skirts of a less extreme party”. In fact, it was my being so open about it that directly led to my expulsion.
It was claimed that I had done and said things that were “wholly inconsistent with the principles of the Conservative Party”. When I asked what they were the answer came there none that was convincing.
I was even told by the Secretary of the Board of the Conservative Party that the principles of the Conservative Party were contained in David Cameron’s Foreword of their 2010 manifesto.
Can you discern anything that resembles a principle in his foreword at http://media.conservatives.s3.amazonaws.com/manifesto/cpmanifesto2010_lowres.pdf? I can’t.
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Oh I’ll be keeping an eye on that Claire.
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I am glad to hear it. This case is for anyone in any party who knows he has no choice but to toe the party line or else be expelled or demoted. The Conservative Party is the worst because its party constitution actually says its leader and his cronies can expel you without notification or explanation at their absolute discretion without any obligation to give you a reason, let alone a fair hearing.
The free speech of party members and political activists is even more important than the free speech of the ordinary person.
Anyone who has taken the trouble to participate in politics should have the right to be able to speak the truth as he sees it and make any political point that is morally and intellectually defensible, without forfeiting his right to meaningful political participation, and this must mean to remain in a mainstream political party.
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Why are we giving space to this attention seeker ?
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Claire you could suggest mentally unwell are put down at birth and old ppl are gassed
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Its got fuck all to do with censorship
Just the inane distasteful ramblings of an attention seeker could lead to some lunatic to actually believing this crap might result in
Someone killing or harming vulnerable people.
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Jesus Christ on bike this attention seeker is such a dimwit she has to ask about offensive comments or views she has .
…yeah sure suggesting killing off vulnerabke ppl isnt offensive its just being rational ..
Don’t worry Claire the tories are already fulfilling you’d wishes with over then thousand dead already due to benefit changes. Maybe they should speed it up a bit as its clearly not enough. Why not suggest death targets and a prize
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While it is open to me to suggest that “the mentally unwell are put down at birth and old people are gassed”, I do not, because I do not see how you can tell at birth that the infant is mentally unwell nor do I believe in gassing old people. You seem to have very odd ideas.
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Did you or did you not say “Tom has got to close this blog”? Is this not censorship?
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Never heard of sarcasm irony .
Besides DNA research in the hands of insurance and eugenicists would be a wet dream. ” pre disposition to mental illness in the family DNA. ” recommend extermination to end this family line.
Also bumping off the elderly would save money since state pensions cost too much and use up resources ..
So don’t be pious ..there are people and organisation who would be only too happy to put that in motion. After all they could claim its “” cost effective “
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Its not censorship .its worn out tired ever repeating itself done to death cliche ridden claptrap from an attention seeker who has fuck all to say and spouts same old same old ..
Who probably doesn’t believe half of what they say anyway but gets them noticed …
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Obviously I need your attention if I have something to tell you. I am trying to tell you what I think is wrong with your political system.
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If you abolish the NHS then people won’t be lingering around forever. In any case, we can no longer afford it.
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” your political system ” oh haha ..its not mine and you are no expert . not by a long chalk…
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It’s yours and mine whether we want it to be or not. If you are entitled to vote, then it is yours.
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Its funny I have just written a list of tired old right wing cliches..
A sort of top of the props.
1 ” we cannot afford the NHS / welfare / unions / public transport .
Yet we seen to be able to afford paying vast sums of money to banks and other corporate entities who are fucking useless and contribute nothing to society apart from destroying it
2 ” clearing up labours mess ”
3 we need more security to crack down on terrorist threats ..hmm London bombing and where was MI5 .
4 ” if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear ”
Multipurpose excuse for over reaching by any govt or private organisation to delve into our lives ..except when VIP criminals are involved then they look the other way
I can see claire you are a medical proffesional and that patients just lie around perhaps you have not heard of ‘ rest ‘ perhaps you can operate on someone when they are running around ..
You have proved yourself an attention seeking idiot along with the other attention seeking idiots so there is no need for you to labour the point . any more
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Which of my ideas do you consider idiotic then?
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Is claire a satirist ? If so she’s not very funny. Tom is much funnier..
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Its not ‘ours ‘ its owned completely by corporate entities who pay lobbying companies to pimp on their behalf .
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Its not ‘ours ‘ its owned completely by corporate entities who pay lobbying companies to pimp on their behalf .
Been happening for ages
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If most people voted for the party with the most policies they agree with, we would be closer to getting the government we want.
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1 all of them
2 all of them
3 all of them
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Which of my ideas do you consider *most* idiotic?
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The electorate issues don’t count as it gets in the way of business ..
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We live in an oligarchy and an oligarchy is like an oligopoly or a cartel: easily corruptible.
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I answered that already . mind you its up there with all the other crackpots who have more power and influence . perhaps you need sponsorship from a company to further their own aims and profits
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Perhaps ” we need to wipe out the entire human population no people no problems no poverty no crime no immigration no hhealth problems no customers no profits no religious wars ..nothing really ..start with that argument claire and see how you get on…
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We are all corruptible . god said so..
I hear he is doing a book signing tour now..
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Oligopoly ? Is that a new board game ?
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I don’t believe in cures that would kill the patient.
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What I propose is a transparent and responsive system to replace the current sclerotic and opaque system that most MPs themselves don’t even understand.
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They should kill themselves all those mentals. Oh wait they already are..
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You have never answered my question as to which of my ideas you consider *most* idiotic. Don’t lie.
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I don’t believe in father Christmas ..
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Are you saying you do not believe in political activism?
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Aint gonna happen ..all those security people will be out of a job ..
And investigative journalists too..
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Have you given up on politics then?
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” be haff vays of making you talk “
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I don’t believe you are for real..
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Why do you believe I am not “for real”, whatever that means?
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You are avoiding answering that question because you cannot answer it.
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I don’t believe that the ordinary Joe will get a fair chance ..the system is naturally geared towards anyone with the most finance and therefore the most influential.
Btw do you think that harry styles of one direction is gay ?
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I have given up living ..its just so passe..
Death is the new dance craze
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You have re invented yourself ..with a little help from victor Frankenstein
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I have chosen ( damn that free will ) not to bother to reply to inane question .
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I don’t think you really understand my ideas.
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What’s it to you ? If I reply one way you will claim something about me if I don’t you will do same…either way results in a concept which bears no resemblance to anything real or imagined.
I am not standing on a soap box..
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Its not that I don’t understand your ideas its that I don’t really care about your ” ideas “
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I can tell that you are not really an ideas man.
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Yeah you are right claire I am not an ideas man…I gave up being graphic designer producing promotional items for soft ware companies because I don’t have ideas. I may not be one but I do try to exercise what’s left of my critical thinking skills to realise when ppl seeking attention speak gob tripe…
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Claire never answered my question Is harry styles of one direction gay ?
I wonder why she avoids answering that ..
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Claire probably came to the west by being the kind of slut she so regularly derides.
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I came to England as a student, actually. I am not an SSM kind of slut. The SSM is described at https://www.facebook.com/pages/Should-Spinster-Single-Mothers-be-lashed-100-times/417696111659379
Keith, do you think SSMs are good for America?
Are you really not aware that if there were not quite so many SSMs in America you would have had the Republican government you so desperately want?
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This blog is like prodding a snake…ideally you should leave it alone to sleep and go away but for some reason ppl passing by don’t leave it and wake it up…
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Ah the moralising …the baby factories on chav estates run by the KGB to ruin the economy in league with Marxist hard left disabled to wreak havoc on an unsuspecting world ….
How will we ever survive. ?
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Like you, Keith finds me irresistible.
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No Claire I think he is bored and needed a laugh…
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You both seem to have a lot in common.
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Yeah we are both human beings ..look it up why don’t you ..might learn something….
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Bob and Claire – wait … don’t tell me … let me guess how this ends. Both of you are going to end up falling in love, aren’t you?
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As it happens, people have been saying we should “get a room” or get hitched!
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My dear Thomas I would sooner blow my brains out than get involved with someone devoid of any empathy whatsoever..I think you rather forget sir how much I campaign on behalf of disabled people as I am a disabled person myself …
And to be in the company of a fascistic non empathic attention seeking child would be the stuff of nightmares…
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@Tom I am not that desparate thank you…
Btw when are johhny and you gonna kiss and make up ?
Ever ? And will you and Sonia poulton ever going to get on ?
Hell freeze and over spring to mind
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Besides my late father fought in WW2 ( it was in all the papers ) he fought on our side against Nazism I would not insult what that man fought for by consorting with people he would consider the enemy ..
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I wasn’t aware that Claire Khaw did mind reading (re mentalist)
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Claire speaks the truth, she is the light of reason, the torch that guides the way to a better future. Secular Koranism represents the ultimate expression of consciousness. The survival of Western civilisation depends on the implementation of Khawanic principles.
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Why thank you, Mr Melmotte. It is clear that social conservatism, which protects society from its internal enemies, cannot be promoted solely by UKIP and the BNP. It can only be promoted, maintained and perpetuated by religion that is bigger than mere party ideology. Otherwise, when a party is out of office, or a government falls, the baby of social conservatism is thrown out with the bathwater of the current government.
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Why would your late father consider me an enemy of the British people? You surely don’t think I am German or a Nazi or an antisemite? British people were pretty antisemitic anyway. In fact, antisemitism has been endemic in Christian Europe for centuries now.
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Oh look claire has invented a new language made from all the bits of other languages
Today’s word children is ‘ social conservatism ‘ its a bit like communistic capitalism or capitalistic communism
Isn’t this fun children learning how to talk utter crap…
Yes Jonathan aunty claire is a bit scary
Its the funny clothes she wears in her fantasy home inside the ward
We best move along now claire needs to rest as she has worn her brain cells out.
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I guess my old dad thought demented slappers didnt help society much .
But that was him bless him
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Are you disputing the term ‘social conservative’? If so, I would suggest you read a few books on political theory. Regarding the inferred madness of Ms Khaw I believe you are confusing the advocacy of promoting unpopular views with insanity. There have been many instances throughout history where an individual has gone against the orthodoxy, only to be proved right at a letter stages. Claire is a modern Galileo; it is not her fault that you are incapable of understanding the logic of her arguments but the fact that you are incapable does not make Claire ‘mad’. It is interesting that the majority of those who have ‘challenged’ Ms Khaw, on this thread, have done so by insulting her. This speaks volumes.
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Social conservatism just means Abrahamic moral values contained in the Bible and the Koran, chief of which is respect for the institutions of marriage and the family.
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Thank you for explaining things to Bob Chewie, Mr Melmotte. He has already admitted to being disabled, so perhaps we should not expect too much of him.
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I think your father and I would agree on a lot of things.
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Indeed, we probably shouldn’t expect a rational debate from him, after all his blog does say: “welcome to stupid”.
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Indeed, we probably shouldn’t expect a rational debate from him, after all his blog does say: “welcome to stupid”.
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@august melmotte. You sound like Neville chamberlain.
Don’t worry folks hitler isn’t a threat
Maybe you think ppl who advocate killing off certain ppl because they dont like them is normal..never heard of criminally insane ?
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Claire. Just STFU. You’ve made yourself look stupid already and I am sure you will find more gullible idiots that will listen to your ramblings.
If you believe the crap you come out with then why dont you compile a list of undesirables and write to them and parents and suggest they end their lives
But you won’t will you ?
Because you are full of shit
and doing all of this for a laugh
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I don’t have a blog..it was just a test try out…having said that had I continued with it you would be on it
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I don’t think you understand my ideas. I am promoting Secular Koranism. Do you even know what it is?
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Claire I don’t fucking care about your ‘ ideas ‘ ok ?
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Muppet…
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Ha !! That says a fucking lot about you dont it .disabled are ‘ inferior species ‘
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@ august you would be on welcome to stupid ..top of the list
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Don’t bring up my dad with your raving old tosh…he was an honourable man.
He would agree you were a fucking nut case
And ignore you..
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I don’t think you did very well at school, did you?
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People who say “muppet” are lower class and uneducated, I find. It is a moral duty to ignore the views of the great unwashed when they disagree with you.
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You care enough to condemn them.
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I don’t think you ever met your father.
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You were mildy amusing …now you are tedious ..
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And you are being sarcastic
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Naah it tells me that this is a fake identity…probbly claire other self or self delusion
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Boring claire …go to your room and stop being a silly child ..
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I wouldn’t feel too bad about it. It is too much to expect an unborn child to be in a position to have an influence on the morals of its mother. The sad thing is that careless copulation leads to degeneracy as well as illegitimacy. Disability would come under the heading of degeneracy. Women are the filter of the next generation. The lower their morals, the more degenerate the next generation, and the British are now undoubtedly degenerate.
Only the patriarchy will protect your society from the temptations of the loose woman, sadly.
And only God can maintain the patriarchy.
Man created God to protect him from the Slut.
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Idiots preach morals when they have none..
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I am being perfectly serious about Secular Koranism.
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What makes you say I have no morals?
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Are you congenitally incapable of reasoned debate?
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A fake identity it is but it aint Claire, that I can assure you and for the record.
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Claire, I’m not convinced that this cretinous being (Bob Chewie) even went to school.
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The claire double act
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Why do you have two identities now ?
As for cretinous look in the mirror…
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At least you admitted you were a fake..
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” put them all down ” ” send them back home ” simplistic solutions for a problematic world . ” we need more scapegoats to blame ”
Thats it really anything to make some people to feel smug and superior and ‘ to be seen to be doing something “
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“Why do you have two identities now ?” I only have one.
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