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(not satire – it’s feudal UK today)
Apparently McAlpine is to use British police to help him sue thousands of Twitter users even though he’s a tax exile in the south of Italy and doesn’t pay tax in the UK.
Why isn’t he using the Italian police? He’s not paying for ours so why should he have the right to divert our valuable police time away from real crimes in the UK?
This is yet more evidence that McAlpine’s agenda – and it seems now our police’s too – has got nothing to do with protecting his so-called ‘good-character’ and everything to do with telling the plebs to shut the f*** up, respect our ‘betters’ and know our place.
Remember – McAlpine has already received more money in compensation than any of the children who were raped and abused. See here for more information about that:
I hope Lord McAlpine isn’t going to sue me for saying this?
Also, to get a better idea of what kind of man he is, have a look at this quote from McAlpine himself from his 2000 book – “The New Machiavelli‘:
Another useful ploy is the false accusation. First, create a situation where you are wrongly accused. Then, at a convenient moment, arrange for the false accusation to be shown to be false beyond all doubt. Those who have made accusations ….. become discredited. Further accusations will then be treated with great suspicion.
What I’d like to know is, why are we allowing McAlpine and his friends in high places to drag us right back into the 19th century when the plebs knew their place and we lived in fear of saying anything in case we offended the powerful feudal Lords who ruled over us?
And why are we allowing our police – which we pay for even though he doesn’t – help him to do it?
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If you feel like writing to the Met’ to tell them what you think about your police service allowing a tax exile Lord to waste their time helping him put the plebs back in their place – you can write to them here:
DPS Complaints and Satisfaction Team
22nd Floor
Empress State Building
Lillie Road
London
SW6 1TR
Or if you prefer, send them a tweet @metpoliceUK
Or if you prefer to make a complaint via telephone, call: 101
Or fill in an on-line form here.
Or why not complain to your MP?
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bobchewie said:
Whatever. Happened to the public police force? Its a culture of same authoritarian types when it comes to dealing with public but very liberal when it deals with its own.
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bobchewie said:
Ok tom, check that blacklisting stuff and my question at the moment is about school governors.. There are some strange types there.
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nuggets mahoney said:
On the subject of ‘telling the plebs to shut the f*** up, respect our ‘betters’ and know our place’ this is worth a read…
http://www.prweek.com/uk/news/1160809/mcalpine-putting-tweeters-alert-hailed-watershed-moment/
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syzygysue said:
A link seems in order to Think Left’s post
‘Next Month’s International Threat to control the Internet – Act Now!’
Sign the petition at http://action.goingtowork.org.uk/page/s/stop-the-net-grab
or http://www.change.org/petitions/stop-the-net-grab
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bobchewie said:
Do you know what? I think i am bored with all this hypothesising And introspection when you drink your tea or watch the box or type our your navel gazing bollocks just think at that precise moment some poor kiddy is being abused and crying for help. No one came to their rescue because they were so stuck up their own rear end of smugness waffling they forgot they could actually do something. To prevent it and prevent damaged lives…
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bobchewie said:
Oh just before you sign that could you show some fucking consideration to child abuse by having certain sites looked into and shut off…
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syzygysue said:
@ bobchewie Apologies for inadvertently caused irritation to you. I work with adult survivors so am more aware than many of the reality and longlasting impacts of the vile crime of child abuse.
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bobchewie said:
This is terrible why dont They do something about it i cant because i am too busy. Thats why nothing changes. Just think when you are soundly asleep some poor kid is being abused somewhere. But hey its not your problem and what could you do? Plenty. But you wont .. Because no is really cares . If you do then reply to this..
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bobchewie said:
Well here is the thing there are sites that can be looked into and the network investigated pk.. Ive already posted the info to reportes who laughed it off, how is that for useless???
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syzygysue said:
I care and overwhelmingly so do other people. I think that retaining the freedom of the internet is very important because it allows publication of material that otherwise does not surface. Clearly that also maintains those child pornography sites but to be fair that also provides a means of finding a set of child abusers who would otherwise not be found.
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bobchewie said:
Well yeah and it means that anyone with a brain cell can figure that out. With an enquiring mind and fearless or reckless one can find out stuff eg who the abusers are , where they congregate and effing do something.. Instead of this bloody drivel i am reading..,psycho babble and that anyone bloody serious here can tweet me on twatter and maybe get something done..
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bobchewie said:
Are you up for that then??
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Jacko said:
The police are to bissy to prosecute pedofiles and burglers, thy leave MPs to fidle exspences and cotion burglers and muggers, but find time to prosecute or help prosecute people, that have repeated whats been in p/domain for years.
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bobchewie said:
Ppl talk bur never do anything… Its too much trouble . Not my problem etc etc
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tony roma said:
all part of the same eyes wide shut gang.
wot wot.
many of my best fiends are chef cuntstables down at the yorkshire lodge.
my rancid old mucky mucca praise the lord mcalpine is pretty high wanking in the mason firm so of course plod is gonna watch his back and work his front.
tell me what bee the point of being in a secret oath club if not to help out rich men who are innocent victims of twatter blogger bother.
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minou999 said:
I tried to leave a comment before but it disappeared into the ether.
There may be a case for twitterers to state that Lord MuckA’s continuing actions are an abuse of process. The msm whores have already rolled over and Lord Mc could be said to have already recovered his “pristine reputation” by agreeing damages with these entities. Pursuing thousands of tweets by twats looks increasingly like a witch hunt and may very well backfire on Lord Mucka.
What isn’t mentioned is that Lord M isn’t just asking for a £5 donation to charity, he will demand costs of administration too, probably a lot more than the donation!!
Victims of child abuse have to wait patiently for months if not years while their claims are investigated while Lord M can do the same in a matter of days – two-tier justice for sure.
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minou999 said:
I’m not sure that innocence is established by such well-tried and well-known tactics.
It would have to go to court for facts of innocence to be established. Lord Mucka has complained about “trial by twitter”, he is now pursuing “trial by well-publicised and well-heeled witch-hunt” using his friends and connections in media and high places who undoubtedly owe him a favour or two if only to keep paedophile accusations away from their own door. Lord M doesn’t want this to go to court so his fear tactics appear to be working for some people. Shame on Alan Davies.
I do like your insightful take on the matter however 😉
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minou999 said:
Just to add to this comment, Lord M may want us to believe that he is out to get Twitter on a matter of principle.
The principle that all children should be protected from organised gangs of psychopathic paedophiles however has once again been forced under the radar by the actions of lords and their sycophants.
No principles there then.
[I try not to do it if possible but I had to snip a little bit for legal reasons. It’s me who will get sued for libellous comments here. Sorry- Tom.]
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bobchewie said:
There is something wrird going on thats fetvsute . The establishment has been stung and its trying to fight back…using any snealy disinfo bollocks it can muster.. Here we see ginger toady reactionary bigot and misery guts simon heffer claiming the BBC loathed THatcher so much it wanted to stich up his lordship. Well a feck load of people hated thatcher should the security services be spying on them too? And now its got into surreal silly bollocks land Scamerons ‘witchunt has now become McAvellian’s witch hunt . Who is smearing who??
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2232062/Was-BBCs-blind-hatred-Thatcher-blame-Lord-McAlpine-smear.html
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bobchewie said:
There is another theory which does look fanciful i grant you. But here goes. An aggreived person beause of systematic abuse makes it known he wants the world to kbow of his plight. Those who are responsible get a tip off from the old bill. As a means of stopping any investigation the work out a plan wheteby the coppers name a certain person knowing full well it will be rebuked and challenged. Look at result .. Abuse victim humiliated. BBC on its knees.. Twitterers all getting jumpy and nervous and his lordship £180k richer with more to follow. Job done…
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bobchewie said:
I hate iphones .. I was about to answer the question as to why lord muckybrass didnt sue the welsh police ..ok given the shared history of construction companies. And the closet world of spooks , plod and not so special branch with regard to the blacklisting of employees.. With collusion done by her majestys finest. And why not wonder if jones the old bill was part of this setup. To silence the abused by having him discredit himself because of the police collusion. The result is a groveing BBC and worried twitters and an ugly fat toff which is richer
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Matt Flaherty said:
Hi. I certainly hope for your sake that you have irrefutable proof of the allegations that Lord McAlpine is a tax exile. The lengths to which he is prepared to go in order to preserve his reputation have been well established.
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Tom Pride said:
I know – it crossed my mind too that if he pays even a few quid in tax in the UK – easy enough for his accountants to arrange – he could sue me. But you know what – he’s going to sue me anyway just to shut me up – he can always find something. Would he want a big discussion over his tax status in a court? I doubt it. He’ll choose something else to sue me over which is less uncomfortable for him I would imagine.
I’ve only redacted some of the accusations in the comments because I’d prefer to be sued over what I said – not what someone else on the blog said.
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bobchewie said:
I think its a scam tom, thats all… Oh what you think sbout this heffer bollocks bbc hating thatcher?
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Bob said:
Here’s a little secret you won’t hear often; Most of the child porn sites are run by American law enforcement. I know this because I investigated their networks and traced the IP addresses to domains registered to the FBI.
This is where the police got a lot of their names in the 90s and it is still how a lot of offenders are caught now.
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Bob said:
Most of the child porn sites are run by American law enforcement. I know this because I investigated their networks and traced the IP addresses to domains registered to the FBI.
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bobchewie said:
Thats very interesting but its open to be accused of entrapment … And whilst its running does ir leave youngsters open to abuse?
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Bob said:
If you do get sued perhaps you should then sue the Welsh Police for causing the case of mistaken identity in the first place.
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Bob said:
It’s only entrapment if you know that’s where the information came from. The offenders get prosecuted for the pictures (harvested from previous cases) they have downloaded. In order to get those pictures they have to hand over their CC details.
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minou999 said:
That’s okay Tom. It just shows how such actions serve to stifle debate. Lord Mucka’s theatrics have almost buried the true investigation of Sovile’s activities and illustrious connections – which was the aim btw. So much in this stinks of a set-up.
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minou999 said:
It’s not at all fanciful. Imagine if you were a high profile figure and addicted to kiddy fiddling, you will be well placed to indulge your perversions but also well aware of repercussions should your peccadilloes be brought to Joe Public’s attention. These paedophiles would have planned from the start that none of their victims would be believed.
The best way to discredit your victim is to make them appear unstable and therefore untrustworthy – easy to do when children have been perverted, abused, physically and psychologically damaged. The effects of child abuse are such that the adult survivor is dysfunctional in most or all aspects of his/her life.
Psychopaths are masters at victim-bashing.
It is ironic in the light of Sovile’s explosive outing as a sexual deviant that Lord Mucka wants twatter’s donations to go to BBC’s CIN (well named) who are the very people who protected Sovile for half a century. Surely it would be more PR for Lord Mucka to donate his winnings to a charity that seeks to help adult survivors of child abuse to show that he is mindful of their plight in not being able to bring their abusers to justice, as he is so well-placed to do for himself.
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Richard l said:
I always thought that what Lord(whateverhisname) actions are were more of a Civil Matter than criminal, if so why are the police involved anyway. Also, why did he not sue Scallywag in the early nineties, when these accusations were first place in print? If he did I’ve seen no report of this? If any one has such a record please infom.
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bobchewie said:
So 1 your name in connection with child abuse wont come up, why would it as its now public knowledge you are innocent ( strange definition of innocent) 2 the BBC is in grovel mode 3 ppl on the net are cowered 4 it pays off kerching !!.
Oh i would like to day en passabt that simon heffer is a miserable bigotted analy retentive cnut…and he yalks bollocks most of the time too..
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bobchewie said:
Welk bob that what others are puzzled about why didnt muckybrains sue the old bill? Especially for the reasons you mentioned. So in order to answer that i can only assume two things 1 because of the shared history in connection with blacklisting 2 they are in on the deal with the whole game plan to silence the victim snd get the BBC in grovel mode and to make some cash too
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bobchewie said:
This has alteady come up before
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minou999 said:
Exactly – “Criminal defamation has been abolished in the UK since 12 January 2010 when the Coroners and Justice Act 2009 came into force. Section 73 of this Act abolished the criminal defamation offences, which were the offences of sedition and seditious libel, the offence of defamatory libel, and the offence of obscene libel.”
So why are the police even trying to make a criminal case?
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bobchewie said:
This is starting to look like extortion / ransom.. Pay up or the country gets it…
ITV turn to cough up
http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20443186
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bobchewie said:
“Mr Reid added that they had spoken to “senior officers” at Scotland Yard to discuss criminal behaviour on Twitter.
“There are a hard core of people who are re-tweeting and who are basically acting maliciously. This is an offence.”
He added, however, that it was up to the police to decide whether to investigate further.” From bbc site today
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bobchewie said:
Lets look at this criminal behavior thing? And compare it with tax avoidance and bank fraud and mp expenses etc etc
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Igiveup said:
Biggest surprise to me is how both BBC and ITV paid up so quickly! Law doesn’t usually move that fast. On the other hand, the payouts are actually pretty low compared to what he probably asked for (I’d read £500,000 from ITV). Whatever the truth is – something is not right.
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bobchewie said:
The well off have been milking the system for ages . Britains wealthfare its called..
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Art and Photography lover said:
Wonder what the motive for collecting ‘police truncheons is? (his wiki page)
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bobchewie said:
@ art and photographer lover maybe this might answer your question… In fact it resembles other people too. I hope Tom is paying attention this time.
http://abovethelaw.com/2012/11/quote-of-the-day-think-your-boss-is-a-psychopath-well-he-might-actually-be-one/
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bobchewie said:
Ok its funny that bits of our history seem to recycle and i wonderd why. The abuse case seems to suggest something more about our past namely secret goings on in high places and cover ups . Eg care homes, hillsborougg and miners dispute.. All have something in common an established order abusing and fitting up the plebs of this country and anyone who dares to speak up or have the audacity to complain is seen as some sort of threat. Of late i glanced at private security bod firms sitrs and kept finding strange language there like : the need for counter subversive units and certain threats which include ‘insurrection’ .. Well ‘MFI’came out of the military hence its title all the same are they in their head still fighting the cold war?
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bobchewie said:
BBC a hotbed of communists ….,yawn…
There have been for many years a concerted belief from the rabid tory right that dear old aunty beeb is a masquerade for uncle joe stalin. Simon Hefferlump is of that virw like so many others like him who are clearly bonkers in the nut. Here is another nut who is very cracked…
http://www.iaindale.com/posts/bbc-blighted-by-communists
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