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(This is not satire – believe it or not)
The government has decided that cancer patients on chemotherapy will have to undergo tests to prove they can’t work.
This is not satire – it’s true.
Today Conservative and Liberal Democrat MPs rejected an amendment which would have exempted cancer patients.
Here’s what Ciarán Devane, Chief Executive of Macmillan Cancer Support said about it:
“We are bitterly disappointed on behalf of the thousands of cancer patients that the Government has today failed to protect. They will now be forced to bear the brunt of the economic crisis.
“Despite mass opposition from Lords, the public, their own supporters and the whole cancer community, the Government has pushed through an unfair proposal which means thousands of cancer patients – still recovering from their illness and therefore too sick to work – will see their income drop by up to £94 a week from April.
“Following press speculation that the Government plans to use the ‘financial privilege’ rule to force through welfare reform, we seek their assurances that this will not be the case. An issue where 89% of the public believes the Government has a moral duty to protect cancer patients from welfare cuts deserves the scrutiny of both Houses.”
Here’s a link to Macmillan Cancer Support’s online petition against the government’s policies:
Time is running out to make sure that people with cancer don’t lose benefits.
And finally, to explain why the government might be doing this, have a look at this article:
Welfare reform and the US insurance giant Unum
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Please feel free to comment – you don’t need to register and I’m extremely minimal with the moderating – so fire away:
they will turn up at funerals next to make sure folk are dead!!!
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Bastards!!! Not much else to say…j
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Yes Carole. I was trying to find something eloquent and clever to say about it but I think ‘bastards’ just about sums it up in one word.
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I understand why you feel speechless. How low can they stoop?
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Callous, sadistic, bastards.
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Yep Lynn, you’ve managed to fine a couple more suitable words to sum them up. You’ve pretty much nailed it really.
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Nothing surprises me from this Govt.They stoop lower and lower.How far will they be allowed to go.
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as a former cancer patient who twice had chemo as well as radiotherapy,i’d like to know how they’d succeed in getting me out of bed……i was barely able to stand,i was that tired and weak because of the treatment
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I feel the need to lend Guy Fawkes a match….
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Tony – they’d still probably assess you as fit for work. There have been cases of people being assessed by ATOS as fit for work who have died literally days later. See here: http://diaryofabenefitscrounger.blogspot.com/2011/05/3-claimants-die-after-being-found-fit.html
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Can’t believe even this shower of hard-faced, selfish, greedy, snivelling Tories; and their pathetic junior partners in crime; can stoop so low. With any luck and lots of publicity they will begin to lose support from the greedy Tories in our communities and they will be voted out. It’s hard to stay positive in this climate….
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Nasty, nasty, nasty! I never thought I could despise a Government as much as I detested Thatcher & her mob – but this lot take the biscuit! Targeting and demonising the poor, disabled and sick…and now chemo patients! They make me puke with anger.
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So anyone else starting to think Cameron’s/Clegg’s government might actually be worse than Thatcher’s?
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Yeh because you know, those bloody cancer patients, workshy layabouts the lot of them, scrounging off us decent taxpayers who had the foresight not to go and get cancer. They’re a drain on our nation and it’s about time they gave something back!
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I suppose in times of financial hardship there are always going to be areas of cut back but it appears to be the poor, the sick, the disabled, the single mums, the pensioners, the unemployed who are yet again having to stand the cost whilst the big fat rich bankers continue to reap vast rewards ! I ,for the first time ever, am willing to join any protest, any march, any petition in order to help stop this affront to human dignity. It is shameful and although I have always been immensely proud to be British I am ,at the moment ashamed of this countries government. They are not our bosses…each one of us are theirs..we employ these moron’s , therefore, the whole country should unite and get them out of office.
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They will do anything they can to take from the poor, the sick and the powerless. Anything at all rather than take what is due from the self serving wealth fakers, fat cats and their old public school chums.
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Yes Ewan, I wholeheartedly agree. Just like all those so-called dead people who just lie around in their graveyards all day doing nothing. Get yourself jobs, you scrounging layabouts, I say:
https://tompride.wordpress.com/2011/11/06/department-of-work-pensions-some-dead-to-be-classified-as-fit-for-work/
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You couldn’t make this up, utterly appalling and we need to wash this filth out of government ASAP.
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We are seeing the reality of a redistribution of wealth… upward and offshore. This does feel worse than Thatcher … I never thought I’d be saying that… For a start, it felt like there were heavy weight, grown-ups in the Cabinet who were their own men (Mrs T didn’t care for women politicians). I hated their policies but when it came to it, they got rid of Thatcher … 18y late of course. But with this lot, I don’t believe any policy is their own .. it seems to be totally determined by the global management consultancies like KPMG, McKinsey and the banks… Rule of the City of London, by the City of London, for the City of London. The UK doesn’t need to have a technocratic government imposed on us … we’ve already got one.
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You’ve hit the nail on the head here Sue, as you so often do. The arguments no longer seem to be just about right vs left, but corporate vs people.
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Whats all the fuss about ? We should be worshipping this caring , sharing government. They care for the Bankers, the Royals, The Murdochs, the Privatised industries, them selves, the Atlantic Bridge, fox hunting. They share none of these becuase they dont want to burden us. Making Cancer patients undergo fitness tests show that they even care about the money we pay in taxes. We are lucky 😉
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Where’s Ed Miliband?? He should be incandescent and shouting his head off. I hope he at least makes a statement condemning this appalling plan. He seems unwilling to confront the snivellers and their side-kicks. WHY? It’s time for some serious action. I think we should advocate castigating Cameron’s pal Clarkson without any delay by turning his awful programme off and persuade the BBC to grow up even if he can’t.
God I hate Tories!
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Perhaps we could arrange for some of the people involved in this decision to undergo chemotherapy and radiotherapy?
Perhaps then they many realise its not just a case of losing your hair and feeling a wee bit icky for a while.
Do they get their medical advice off Eastenders?
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The government have just backed out of taking the mobility part of dla of disabled people who live in care homes,they are a bigger joke than i thought . They will only change their minds if it affects them personally. People with cancer being bullied basically, talk about kicking someone while they are down ! I am just gob smacked !! Something has to be done & quick . I will make sure i consider very carefully who i give my vote to on the next general election .I am fuming !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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So they plan to give to some private company a fortune to make ill informed decisions, which cost the tax payer more money when being appealed. These poor people are a soft touch as they often will not be able to prove how ill they feel.
How about ‘investing’ the money to get those work shy, uneducated layabouts into appropriate work. How about giving them their unemployment benefit, council tax rebates and other sums, in exchange for work in the community on projects which will benefit us all.
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I think the answer to that, Jane is the government isn’t really interested in getting people back to work. In a society which is run by private corporations, high unemployment is useful because it keeps wages low and a cheap labour economy would be a God-send to them.
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You forgot Unum, the insurance company who according to their own internal memos feel they’re driving policy at the DWP. A predator company, in my view.
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Never mind Milliband, where’s the Minister for the disabled, Miller? Yet again, where the Hell is she?
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A despicable act of negligent ignorance by the despicably negligent ignorants…
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This is disgusting, no more to say really
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Yes, for some time.
Wolves in fluffy hug a hoody disguise, with a little green wash.
The 1% out for themselves.
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Please think about joining your local Occupy – we need people like all of you posting on here.
Then we can start to understand together the underlying problems and build enough solidarity to create a real democracy.
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The green in particular seems to have completely come out in the wash. Perhaps when Cameron said it would be the greenest government ever, what he actually meant was this:
https://tompride.wordpress.com/2011/10/16/tories-reveal-radical-green-policy/
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It reminds me of things we did 70 years ago – I am German…
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Tom, it’s more than useful, high unemployment is actually a necessity for monetarism to work.
As for this announcement it is sickening, vile, barbaric and heartless.
I loathed Thatcher with a vengeance but the years of rot hadn’t set in at that point, so yes, I do think these maggots are worse. Worse because they are more slimy and deliver these things with a smile on their face and a pretence of being reasonable. With Thatcher you knew she was a maniac
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Don’t you realise Jane what an outrageous, ignorant comment you have made?? Just think about what you have said – and i quote, ”How about investing the money to get those work shy, uneducated layabouts into appropriate work”. And ”give them their unemployment benefit, council tax rebates and other sums in exchange for work in the community”. (your not a daily mail reader by any chance are you??) Oh so it’s ok for the government to treat some people on benefits like shit because in your eyes they are the ”undeserving poor”. It’s perfectly acceptable for some people that are unemployed (that ”layabout” you mention actually maybe clinically depressed, or may have other mental health issues but you can’t tell that just by looking at them as their problem isn’t physical like cancer) it’s ok for them to be forced to give their labour away for free and do community service as if they are criminals and if they refused they would be left destitute, that’s ok by you is it?? NO ONE who is at the bottom end of society deserves to be used, abused and exploited by this shower of shite government – NOT JUST THE SICK!!
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AMEN!!! I have a lighter you can borrow….
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Ah, I’d forgotten we had an opposition.
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Drs will no longer decide but a bunch of beaurocrats will. Brace yourselfs. This is gonna be the new 3rd Reitch. =o(
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Actually Saz, it’s worse than that. Bureaucrats will not be deciding. A private company will (most probably ATOS).
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How low can you go? I know someone who is suing the manager of dwp. We have rights. Use them.
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Isn’t fighting death enough, without having to fight for our human rights at the same time?
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That’s if you can afford it. If the Legal Aid, Sentencing and Punishment of Offenders Bill (LASPO) is passed, legal aid will be almost impossible to get. They’re not stupid ya know!
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Is anyone surprised what the Tories won’t do, why do people vote for them? What next taxing the air we breath?
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I am sad to say that I am still not shocked. There are only two kinds of Conservative. The ignorant and/or the vile 😦
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Cancer patient here too.
Received the joys of chemotherapy twice so far (not just 2 IVs, I mean to seperate occasions of chemo cycles, cos the first cycle didn’t do much good)
Along with blood transfusions and platelets etc…
So, I’d like to see them get me up. dressed, showered, out of the door.
OK, so some days I can do all of these things and I “don’t look like there’s anything wrong” with me as I have my hair. But on others I can’t even get dressed or go out.
My cancer is aggressive and incurable. I’ve been fighting with it for the last three years. And I have a list of consultants as long as my arm now too…
As I’m 28, I’m constantly made to feel like I should be out there earning my place and paying my taxes. I had my first job at 15 and worked all my life until I got sick. I’d love to be back in the career I had before my illness. But it’s unreasonable to think I will. Although I continue to hope.
After all, I’m supposed to be dead by now anyway and i’m still here.
I think they’re just p*ssed off that I survived so they’ve had to pay me more benefits. I must be costing them more in benefits and consultants fees on the NHS…
Fuck ’em.
I’ve paid my taxes and I worked HARD as soon as I was able.
I’m not “proud” of the cost I’m incurring, but I’m most certainly not ashamed for it either. After all, none of it was my fault. It’s CANCER for God’s sake. A NON SMOKING RELATED ONE TOO before they start!!!
How dare they decide that they’re going to means test people who are battling debilitating illnesses and trying to simply stay alive in order to spend more time with their families and friends… then try to force these people back into the work place just so they can profit from the man hours.
It’s utterly abhorrent.
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Oopsie!!
I meant to say I’m THIRTY ONE (31) I was diagnosed at 28… Haha!!
You see, my memory is shocking these days!
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Well Lee, you sum it up better than anyone could. What do they believe people are thinking? Hooray, I’ve got cancer – I don’t have to work now? This is the worst kind of divide and conquer. They think only people who are sick will notice and the rest won’t notice unless they become sick themselves by which time it’ll be too late.
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Heartless bastards
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I know it is wrong to wish ill on people, but I hope they suffer at their own hands! This is the lowest move ever!
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Having had chemotherapy this time last year and being bed bound for 3 months having to struggle with no money coming in I cant believe the utter disgrace of having to prove yourself whilst undergoing this gruelling treatment. I would love to see how those in government would feel if one of their family had a life threatning illness and then see what they thought. Its just wrong on so many levels .
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Oh shit.
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http://www.thevenusproject.com/
Until we swop to a resource based economy and remove the upper class their greed and corruption will never end. The only way to stop the scumbags in the City of London (and all who serve it) is to cut it’s strings entirely – swopping to Labour or a new government won’t solve the problem created by an economy based on scarcity and taxes.
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Lee you got it right when you said you had worked hard. Government Ministers who bang on about the “workshy” know what they are talking about – none of them have ever done an honest day’s work in their life. Either living on their Daddy’s millions or swanning around Whitehall shouting at their minions.
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How low can this Government stoop?
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They are morally bankrupt. This is what a monetarist economy looks like. They are so conditioned they can’t even see what they’re doing is wrong, they’ve crossed over a line and don’t see people any more. We’re all commodities and if we don’t have any earning power we are dispensable.
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My wife went through chemo and there is no way that she could work.over 2 years later she still hasn’t gone back full time.they are the lowest of the low
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Im afraid I dont have the words for how unutterably low that is. Ashamed to be in the same country that suggests such a thing.
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So unuterrably low. Ashamed to be linked to a country that would even come up with this.
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Tories are such pricks
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I gave up on this class riddled hypocratic load of so called leaders of a democratic society years ago. There are just so many instances of pure ignorance of what everyday people have to live with, that I reached a point where I realised there is never to be an end to it’s continual occurances. I have become numb to it’s vulgarity.
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I totally agree with your comment Kate. They only want us for our money.
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Well said! I didn’t expect a great deal of understanding or help from a Conservative government (though even they have surpassed themselves in their callousness). However, it’s the prejudice and absence of empathy and compassion in a large swathe of the population which is so appalling and tragic.
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this is absolutely ridiculous
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Nasty blood sucking assholes!!… You can cheat you expenses but as soon as someone genuinely needs help you shit on them. Tossers.
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absolutely ridiculous !!
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The Tories- the British equivalent to the Taliban.
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And I thought my country’s government was bad!!
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that’s sickening.
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im just glad i haven’t got the former on my mind, let alone the latter.. :(… strength to those that have . blessed be…
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This is an outrage, true enough and it won’t be an end to indignities inflicted on those who have standing let alone standing up for themselves. Stop it now, the only way this government is going to get any support from the banks and the decaying EU is by ripping more of the gut.s out of this once a very gutsy nation. Stop the suffering now, stand up and be counted.
God bless you all.
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have you seen the forms that people have to fill in to show that they are not fit to work? they can turn it into just two questions which all the others are attempting to answer:
1) do you have at least one functioning limb?
2) are you breathing?
Of course then you are perfectly capable of working …. to death by the seem of it
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That is outrageous! Obviously they have never had any!!
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shocking, what next?
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Yes to see if they can’t squeeze a bit more money from your corpse.
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Oh much lower yet.
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As far as you allow them. Look to the new British Freedom Party if you are tired of the same old crap decade after decade.
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Someone on chemo is in a fight for their life, requiring all of their mental and physical energy. And then some. Don’t be ridiculous. Testing them to check they are unable to work? Take a bloody paycut if you’re looking for funds.
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Outrageous.
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After all, we are all in it together.
This should make me angry, it just makes me feel like weeping. This gov’t has no compassion, it’s the sort of thing that you expect to hear about in a totalitarian banana republic. I’ve thought for.some time that this mob are even worse than Thatcher’s government. Guess this confirms it.
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O’ guy fawkes where are you when we need you.
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Humiliating undignifing outrageous depressing just a few words of the many i could use to describe the way this government is treating people who would actually rather work than have fuckin cancer . Utterly inhumane. Total bastards. And where are all these jobs anyway?
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this is sick, last thing people need is this…
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you need to watch this, it’s a 4 parter but it’s very enlightening
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Me too. I’ve been waiting for years to dance on Thatcher’s grave (Trafalgar Square won’t be big enough for the revelry), but I am sorely tempted to go to Sodding Chipbury or wherever it is Cameron lives with a baseball bat and a shovel.
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Ridiculous awful
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You are right Kate, you have summed it up far more eloquently than I ever could; the lack of human feeling is audacious and frightening. We once had the National Health Service, now we are to have cancer patients being bullied into employment.
It honestly scares me to think what may come next.
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A slag can get knocked up and get a house? Incapacity benefit is handed out to people that simply can’t be arsed. But no, we’ll give the extensive testing to the people with an often fatal condition. Fuck off.
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it’s not just cancer patients, i have ms and i have to be medically assessed yearly, and whilst i cannot walk and only have the use of one arm i’m still assessed as having some capability to work…. if only i could
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How long before those tory bastards privatise our NHS? For the rich shall get richer and the poor poorer, always has been the tory way always will be the tory way!! If you work for someone else, you have to vote for someone else, never voted for these bastards and never will!!
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There less human than Thatcher
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Well, I’m writing this during my thrice-weekly dialysis session, and I already have to prove I’m not well enough to work. Under the last Government, they actually wanted me to go on JSA (even though I was literally unavailable for work half the week). I’m expecting the same treatment under the ConDems. Basically DWP tests and forms can understand the binary ability scale of disability. They can not compute regarding the analogue diversity of abilities and levels of exhaustion that chronic illness brings. Please remmeber that cancer is not the only life-threwatening chronic illness out there – and we are all threatened.
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this is a little different situation but the same scenario… my husband had cardiac arrest in 2001 at the age of 48. He was on social security and disability, and a couple years of being on, they decided to reassess him . He had brain injury, couldn’t walk as one of the things he lost with the oxygen loss was his mobility. his hands could not open, etc. etc. and they wanted to assess him again to see what kind of work he could do so that he wasn’t taking advantage of the system. Even his doctor was angry saying this man cannot even hold a pencil! He passed away in 2006. No words for the lack of compassion and greed-filled system it is right now. We need to clean house and get ethical, moral and spiritual-based leadership on every level.
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Jay, I find your comments completely ignorant and deeply offensive: “A slag can get knocked up and get a house? Incapacity benefit is handed out to people that simply can’t be arsed”. Do not refer to women as ‘slags’ and do not make ill-informed Daily Hate Mail statements about people on Incapacity Benefit, the fraud rate for which is 0.5%, as low as it gets. Try reading a newspaper that will give you the facts eg The Guardian. While there are people like you lapping up the propaganda in the hate press, you’re just making it easier for the government to bring out these heinous policies.
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British Freedom Party? I don’t like the sound of that – sounds like the BNP or National Front
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http://www.sunderlandecho.com/news/local/durham_crematorium_could_sell_power_to_the_people_1_4023393
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instead of persecuting the genuine sick people, they should be targeting the so called sick people who suffer from back pain and depression, and before anyone misunderstands me, i have suffered appalling depression for which i take tablets, but instead of claiming incapacity i work
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People sometimes mistake Fascism for what happened in Nazi Germany AKA right-wing racist kooks, but what Fascism really is is government of the corporations, by the corporations, and for the corporations. Eisenhower saw this coming in the US back in the 1950s (that whole military-industrial thing) and it finally got a foot-hold during the 1980s. It looks like it has also gotten a hold on the UK as well a couple of decades after it destroyed our government.
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Despicable, absolutely shocking.
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Or the kind of Conservative like me. 50, disabled with chronic osteoarthritis, very limited mobility, anterior neuropathy, managed depression and just about to undergo major surgery with long rehab period. I have had an ATOS assessment. It is NOT stressful, in fact they were really helpful and even happy to come to my home if I required. Basic assessment and, after 7 years trapped on IB by LABOUR, I am now able to move to JSA to find a job, within my limits, without being financially penalised and will be entitled, just as cancer patients are, to receive ESA whilst being treated, recovering, etc. It is purely an assessment, no-one is being forced to work when they are too ill and the benefits are flexible. Yes the assessment is a blanket form but it would be impossible to adapt each assessment to each individual. I don’t see why anyone should be exempt and It is easy to appeal but, actually, much fairer.
I am right in the middle of all of this, I don’t relish the ‘back to work’ interview and will treat it somewhat tongue in cheek as I used to be a professional recruiter! But I feel so liberated to be able to at least try to work and know that I will actually be a little better off – being disabled and stuck on benefits stinks!
I am Conservative, disabled and very proud ……………… I most certainly am neither ignorant nor vile!
Please go bang on your ‘do-gooder’ drums somewhere else………..
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do we?
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i have 2 invisible conditions, Fibromyalgia & hypermobility that often gets summed up to “back pain and depression” by all means target the free loaders however pigeon holing anybody is wrong… i am a single mum to an autistic boy and i have just put in a new claim for DLA for myself as each day is a grueling challenge with no positive outlook as neither of my conditions have a cure… i am expecting a long and hard fight for DLA and on one hand i feel awful for applying as im not dying and some rare days are good ones but then on the other i think why shouldnt i go for what i am entitled to just because there are people out there who think im a scrounger… all the above leads me to have sever depression which has resulted in hospitalization… i did work (with all of the above going on) but when i asked for hours to fit around my son (i worked until 9 or 10pm) i was refused and had rto give up my job… its alright says these ill people have to “get a job” but where are the jobs going to come from? all im all its a joke
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How low can this Government sink?
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i was already disgusted by the ConDem government and i am sadly not surprised by this latest piece of nonsense from them
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What a heartless and insane idea.
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Mr Cameron is really pushing his luck with this latest outrage.How dare he stereotype people who need help like they are all potential criminals. We know the fraudsters exist but they are the exception NOT the majority of claiments for benefits. He neither cares about people’s dignity, people’s health (mental or physical) nor does he give a spoonful of caviar about anyone who doesn’t earn enough money to employ a nanny……… He’s behaving like a 7 year old let lose in Hamleys Toy Shop with Daddy’s credit card since he came into power ….(too posh for ToysRus). You’d have thought he would have a bit of empathy towards very ill people seeing as he had a disabled son. We don’t need this kind of ‘leadership’……… but we are letting this happen.
How comes none of the ‘expenses’ scandal culprits never got treated like criminals? It appears most have got away with it ……. isn’t THAT cheating the system?? The ones that were punished were crap at their job and used as scapegoats to appease the media and make it look like the problem was being dealt with – the others got away with the, seemingly, standard excuse of ‘making a mistake’. You try THAT excuse at the dole office and see what happens to you!.
I think it’s about time that the rules were changed vis-a-vis requirements for becoming an MP. How about compulsory living on Jobseekers allowance for one year, in a Council house…….. followed by a years Work for the Council (dustmen NOT pen pushing) for minimum wage……
Lets get some REAL people, back in Parliament, who live in the real world and not Planet West Oxfordshire………. well, THAT won;t work because working class people hardly ever go to University to study Politics, which seems to be the requirement these days.
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It might be a tad tasteless but where are the IRA when you really need them.
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guy fawkes had the right idea……….
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true.
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Get used to it, this is just the start. People everywhere are basically ignorant, stupid and evil. They will turn against anyone the government tells them to, and when they’ve finished with the “enemy within” they’ll go for the “enemy without”.
If you’re buying a house, make sure it’s got a large basement suitable for use as a bomb shelter, as they are certain to pick a fight with some well-armed foreign government sooner rather than later. In fact I’m counting on it.
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my my Kathryn, what an ignorant pig you are.
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Oh look, a troll. Hello troll!
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Do you not think the battle against cancer is not enough that you have to cause more stress for them!!!!!!….disgusting that’s what I think. What about leaven them alone to fight this horriable disease !..
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You disgusting, moronic, bastard ………………………………… remember, there but for the grace of God. Guess osteoarthritis isn’t good enough against cancer – praise the Lord for the Tory Party if the alternatives include cretins like you!
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I’ve already dealt with a case where they rang intensive care to check that our client was actually in there, and not just faking his illness :o( The doctor said something unrepeatable in polite society and hung up.
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BFP EDL BNP NF It’s all the same bunch of arseholes trying t’ make out that they could do it better by creating scapegoats from minorities and duping stupid morons into thinking they are more important than they are so they can bask in the perceived reflected glory. When these xenophobic, racist dorks finally run out of letters and yhave t’ give themselves ‘honest’ names I shall look for the TWATS
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I love compassion . It’s a shame this government has none !
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If these people had some one they love suffer with cancer they wouldn’t even entertain this sick idea, think theres quite a lot of other people on benefits they could b checking
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So how much did they pay you to make that post, troll?
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So the government is happy to allow alcoholics, single mums in there teens & general scroats to continue claiming JSA & IB etc. even though what they do is self inflicted yet they refuse to assist genine people who genuinley need help?
IF THE BENEFIT BILL IS TOO HIGH SURELY YOU TARGET THE WASTERS…
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… If one of the Tories got diagnosed with cancer & was undergoing said treatment I’m sure they wouldn’t sit through hours of grueling paperwork etc.
I thought this country was a democracy not a dictatorship… decisions are being made without or consent or welfare in mind… decisions made purely to line there own pockets…
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Erm Kate I agree with what jay is saying fully. He is referring to Slags not women… Slags who get pregnant just purely to get all the benefits under the sun, slags who don’t know who the father is, slags who crowd the city centers every weekend…
Women have more self respect and dignity!
Don’t get me wrong Scroates are just as bad… claim JSA, get drnk before seeing adoctor, get signed off as an alcoholic, go to an AA meeting once a fortnight & get an extra 75 a week IB…
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Well It may be very wrong to say but needs saying… “This decision just go’s to show that Dave Cameron is willing to even piss on his Disabled Sons memory (May he rest in peace) for a few quid from budget cuts!”
I bet any money he and his wife got all the assistance under the sun when there son was alive & took advantage of our tax money in the process!
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the people who think they rule our planet seem to be purely evil……and getting worse……we are awakening and can no longer allow these fukking monsters to prevail……we ARE the 99%…..real change is coming….if we want it enough… be strong….be aware…..<3
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It doesn’t surprise me at all,I had a rather large brain tumour removed which still causes problems with balance and so on, I haven’t been able to work for a year and wont be able to for another 18mnths or drive a car. I can’t have no benefits as I get £170 a week. My mortgage is £1,400 a month. I paid my taxes and NI but do not benefit from this becauise I own my house, Well if that is the case and I will never benefit from all Ithe money I put in maybe home owners should only pay 10% tax and NI.
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Here’s another ignorant Daily hate Mail reading troll who has lapped up all the propaganda about single parents, women getting pregnant, alcoholics and drug addicts (next he’ll be posting something about illegal immigrants…). Don’t you feel embarrassed Edward that you are so easily duped and gullible, believing all the guff you read about the ‘deserving’ and ‘undeserving’ poor? You are putty in the hands of the ConDems and the monetarists. You are making it so easy for them to push through their neo-liberal agenda. If your brain cell can manage it – try the Guardian for facts
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What a ridiculous act by the govt.! My grandfather is undergoing treatment for prostate cancer, luckily he is retired. I can’t imagine how hard it is for people with cancer who are of a working age dealing with this junk.
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Well the saying goes: lower than a snake’s belly… Since they’re reptiles this (and worse) is to be expected. However, it won’t last much longer as all this openes peoples’ eyes and ultimately will cause revolt…
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to make dead sure…….lol…….i dont live in the UK or the West but could not resist
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The Slaves are getting ill lets put a stop to that lets elect a Tory government. So that’s what they did. Who the slaves odd wasn’t it.
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outrageous!! to say the least!!! i am an ex cancer patient and i too had to go through chemotherapy! it makes you ill very ill!.. sickness diarrhoea!! and many more! that CAMERON has no idea! is he trying to be another gadafi? doesn’t cameron know when your on chemo it kills your immune system? oh no he is to busy living a life of luxury!! and being a control freak!!! i know who i will be voting for next election! and it will not be him or his merry men!
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depression is an illness! sometimes a fatal one!!!!! it eats at you! JUST LIKE CANCER!
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I would be really interested to know where are all these pressing job vacancies that require such an aggresive recrutment drive …..there are none… and force unpaid community work on the unemployed ,sick or elderly and you reduce even further the avaialble paid employment and create yet another costly burden on society where the already wealthy will charge the masses a fortune to “manage” the schemes ( another right scheme if you ask me more money for the boys) .Following the modle of privatisation…when has that ever reduced costs improved working conditions provided a service that is equal to what it was before or reduced complexity…why do we the public keep falling for the 3 card trick ?
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This is for the attention of Kathyrn.
I too have suffered from depression, for much of the last 15 years or so; I have an understanding employer who lets me take time off at short notice when I need it but in spite of this, anti depressant medication and a loving, supportive partner, I still find myself incapacitated for long periods of time. Sometimes for 6 -8 weeks. During these times it is a living hell for me and those around me.
Kathryn, the World Health Organisation takes depression very seriously. It believes that one in three people will suffer from depression, at some point in their lives. It further believes that it may be the biggest indirect killer in the Western world. People who suffer from debilitating mental illness such as depression also tend to live up to ten years less than others.
If you really, and I mean REALLY, suffer in the way that I and others that I know, suffer, you wouldn’t come onto this blog and utter such misinformed trash. So why don’t you do us all a favour and go away?
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Very worrying news. As someone who was diagnosed with secondary breast cancer last year, I wonder what will happen when my benefits are up for review. Will I be penalised for outliving my prognosis? Cancer blindsides you from all angles – physically, mentally and financially. The small amount of money I receive really helps me, it is shocking to think that this area of state hand outs is first in the firing line for Government cuts and reassessments.
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i am truelly speechless, although i can type, i need testing
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Do you kiss your children goodnight with that mouth Sally. Language!
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to be fair kate.. edward has a point! i live on a council estate (private rented ex council house) and over half on the estate claim benefits.. ie theres a woman claiming everything – even a car on the council cos she has backache, depression and a shopping addiction.. but shes quite happy to walk around the city centre all day shopping with “backache” but cant work? she gets depressed because she has no money because of her shopping addiction and because her and partner dont work theyre under eachothers feet day in & day out.. if she got a job she’d have more money to spend on shopping, less time with her fella (curing depression) and she doesnt have to have a job where shes on her feet all day (i worked in a shop with a wheelchair user!! it CAN be done!!) another example my neighbours dont work, have asbos, domestic violence, blokes been in jail and kids are verbally abused every day whilst the parents smoke weed & drink with INFANTS in the house!!! these are the sorts edward is talking about. not trying to start an argument but i dont read the daily mail, i go on what i see around me when im going to and from work, mate. i know not all benefit claimants are like this but a fair proportion of where i live are.
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cameron has indeed took a 5% paycut i believe.. the poor mite he must be struggling now… oh one min silly old me! he is a millionaire anyway!!! born with a silver spoon in his mouth!!!
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I’ve been through chemo and now there checking to see if your ill enough next they will be turning up at your funeral to collect their death taxes !!
Sick Fucks
http://www.facebook.com/markpeacemagician
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Like to know when they will close the boarders and stop other people using our limited NHS resources there where a lot of eastern Europeans getting free treatment that puts strain on out limited NHS services and people wonder why the DWP are trying to save money on chemo patients……..
Begs a few more questions I think my fellow Humans
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I went to an ATOS assessment once, I had to be dropped at the door, helped through the door (it was so heavy I couldn’t open it more than a centimetre), then helped at every stage through the exam by my husband. the doctor pulled my limbs physically when I couldn’t move them myself and said I was fine to go back to work full time. He mistook peppermint flavoured prescribed medicine for a homeopathic remedy containing mint. And I could go on.
Apparently by the very act of getting out of the car and into the offices where they were held was me lying about my mobility/needs. Never mind it took me half an hour to cover the 40 yards and two storeys you needed to go. Oh and the three days spent in bed recuperating from the medical.
It’s all a shame, the fact that you are receiving specialist treatment should be enough for them. Who would voluntarily put themselves through Chemo/ radiotherapy to gain benefits?
Insurance companies are as bad though. An old friend now sadly passed was told the insurance wouldn’t pay out until his policy he actually died from his terminal cancer, even though 3 consultants said he had only weeks and they claimed they would payout on diagnosis of terminal cancer. His wife had to abandon him in a hospice and stop being his full time carer to go back to work because that was the only way they could keep themselves from loosing everything. A horrible time made worse by people who would be the first to moan, if it was they who were treated that way.
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Oh and those two incidents we were in a Labour government.
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Aye the slimy bastards! I wouldent fuck them with a dirty stick ! Will they do this to their own when a loved one gets cancer ? Na. One rule for them and a whole bucket full of rules for us.
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On the other hand there was a case of a woman in Adelaide who faked cancer and even got her neighbours and townsfolk to raise money for her treatment . She got found out and I beleive she has a mental illness called “look at me Im wonderfull my names ……….. and this is what Ive been doing syndrome”
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atos na atossers
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I survived cancer when i was a little kid – fortunately just a bit of radical surgery – and skin grafting did it for me – more recently I have been enveloped by aggressive arthritis .. and despite 35 years of work I am now a benefit scrounger. One who has currently had all benefits removed because I am fit for work … yes I know they cannot legally do that. But they have. I am a blink away from being homeless too. They are nothing more than bullies … and I am one who would rather go over the balcony than lose my home to them.
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The phrase you’re looking for is Munchausen’s syndrome, after the literary character.
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Smithy. Firstly, have you appealed the decision to remove your benefits? It seems a lot of decisions that are going against claimants are won on appeal. It’s possible the government know the appeals will be lost but are hoping a certain percentage of claimants won’t bother to appeal. They also want to make the whole process of claiming disability benefit as difficult as possible, thereby putting off as many people as possible from claiming. So appeal.
Secondly, you wouldn’t believe the negative reaction this is creating and its growing. I notice the press have got onto it today (see the Guardian’s top story today) – better late than never. There are signs the government is having very serious second thoughts about its treatment of disability claimants and a good chance the government will backtrack on this – not because they think they did anything wrong you understand but they can see it could cost them votes. There are signs this may be starting to happen already.
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hi Condem hater
What amazes me is how people seem to know the exact health conditions of their neighbours because their health conditions is absolutely nobody else’s business but their own. Depression is a serious illness, clinical depression can be life threatening, not saying your neighbour had clinical depression but I do get tired of people’s ignorance about mental health and invisible illnesses. An example, you don’t see the air that you breathe but you wouldn’t deny it was there. Similarly, your people who see their neighbours out shopping with ‘backache’ or depression’ means Sweet FA. Many health conditions are fluctuating including ME, fibromyalgia, MS, schizophrenia, bi-polar. You may see them on a good day. Of course, the examples you gave are extreme, but even with addictions. How much do you know about them? Because I worked in the addictions field for years and many of the people I saw had been sexually abused as children and used drugs (or alcohol) to blot out the trauma (or other traumas). Of course, if you are a decent sort of soul, you will probably be outraged to hear about a child being sexually abused, but when do you lose your empathy? When they’re sixteen, twenty? And it’s ludicrous to say you saw a person in a wheelchair working in a shop ‘it can be done’. The Equality Act is there to help disabled work if they can and if they chose to, and rightly so. But there’s been a research study in Glasgow showing that the language used in newspapers over a number of years has influenced people’s perception of benefits fraud with their – quite deliberate – use of words like ‘scroungers’ ‘workshy’ etc, so it’s no surprise therefore that the study showed that people vastly exaggerated the rate of fraud because due to these gross distortions of the facts. It’s right that the newspapers are coming under scrutiny because they’ve done a lot of damage, and the rise in disability hate crime can be laid at their door – they have blood on their hands and should be accountable. I wish people would instead focus on the real fraud: the billions that is lost in tax avoidance, the awarding of obscene bankers bonuses, the MPs expenses scandal, the chief executives who are filthy rich – this is what the occupation movement is about and it’s spreading. The world has had enough of the 1 per cent who are distracting you with piffling little stories about benefit fraud which in the scheme of things is pennies compared to what the rich are defrauding from tax payers.
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The desire to be a politician is actually a genetical disorder as far as i am concerned
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Discraceful :@
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It’s not just seven thousand cancer patients either. Many hundreds of thousands of people with debilitating and incurable diseases are being forced to undergo these “asessments”. There is a petition to get the government to stop and reconsider drastic cuts to welfare benefits for the sick, vulnerable and disabled. Please could you sign and pass it to any cancer organizations etc. This fight needs numbers to succeed. Thank you.
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Forgot link to petition! Ah pain beds how you do knock me stupid. Anyway… http://blog.makingspace.co.uk/category/pat-onions-e-petition
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so when are we as ordinary people going to take direct action, burn jobcenters, overthrow our corupt goverment, kill the rich, spread the wealth and take controll of our country. ?
i wouldn’t be supprised if i could go to prison for saying that.
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CAMERON is bitter and twisted! he wants the country to suffer! and why? BECAUSE HE CAN!
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My partner died from ovarian cancer just over two weeks ago, so when I saw this I was prepared to answer in the same tone as almost everybody on this thread. I started by reading the release on the Macmillan website, and then reading the other link, the government’s response to the WCA review. The comment in the latter states
“33. If introduced, these proposals would increase the number of individuals being treated for cancer going into the Support Group. They would also reduce the number of face-to-face assessments for people being treated for cancer as most assessments could be done on a paper basis, based on evidence presented by a GP or treating healthcare professional.”
This means that the application for ESA would be paper based and supported by an assessment by the patient’s oncologist and would not require a work assessment at all. I heartily agree that all cancer patients should automatically qualify for Support Group ESA, but it still needs to be applied for.
Nothing in the response gives the impression that oral and radiotherapy patients will have to attend work assessments, nor that intravenous chemotherapy patients will be also now be transferred to the work related activity group. As the proposed changes to contribution based ESA are limited to Work related ESA, patients on contribution based support group ESA are not affected.
So unless Macmillan are prepared to release the actual consultation document the government sent them, I have to assume that their response is either a deliberate misinterpretation or simply wrong.
If the government has said one thing publically, but another to Macmillan then I retract all of the above and they can rot in the special hell reserved for all monetarists, but on the face of the evidence that Macmillan themselves have published Macmillan have the wrong end of the stick here.
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P.S. Publicly, not publically, but you get my drift.
P.P.S Anybody remember the film Ghost? Willing suspension of disbelief and all that but since when do merchant bankers go to heaven?
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P.P.P.S.
My other half never actually applied for ESA, as her employers, a small archological tour operator of just 12 employees continued to pay her full salary up to the day she died.
Bless you Andante.
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yes im sure there are lots of people who do need the help but these people i explained about are not unknown people i pass on the street theyre friends of the family. theres no need for her to be out of work, or her other half. she even said herself that maybe it would help alot if she did work!! and it didnt seem to bother her working on the market with her dad so why not get a job..? i know there are troubled people. you dont need to tell me that. all i was sayin is there are lots of people who DONT need to be out of work
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I hate to make this point. The government support the poor, needy , homeless, sick and disabled people of this country. In tight times there is a finite pot of money to go round. There is massive benefit fraud in this country so anything the government can do to make sure benefits are going to the right people is a good thing. They are not targeting people with cancer. They are trying to weed out fraudsters who will stoop so low as to try and pretend they are sick so they can sit at home watch Jeremy Kyle all day. THe fact is these big fat rich bankers you speak of are paid by big rich companies and the government has very little say in what they get paid. Welcome to the world of capitalism
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@ anonymous coward. Congratulations on losing your argument. Someone posts (very eloquently sally) with a relevant argument giving information as someone who has gone through the process you are refering to. Your reply is basically playground abuse. Just a thought but you could maybe try engaging your brain before replying. You should be utterly ashamed of yourself
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Tom. Has it occured to anyone that they are trying to plug spending gaps by rooting out fraudsters. It is the people who make these tests necessary by claiming fake illnesses that you should be castigating. As Richard said it’s not like they can force people to work who are obviously unable to do so. govt bashing is easy. Try thinking about the reasons behind these decisions
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Isn’t there a good case for those whose disabilities have not improved, but are now being reassessed, under new rules, as being fit for work, actually suing the Government?
Take the case of someone who has been receiving Incapacity Benefit for the past ten years, whose disabilities remain the same. If ATOS now decide that he is fit for work.
For the past ten years, he has been told by the agents of the Government, GP’s, Specialists and the DWP, that he is not fit for work. If under the new regualtions, he is found fit to work, then surely the Government’s agents have denied him the right to work for the past ten years and he has a case for suing them for the difference between what he would have earned had the GP’s and the DWP not made the “mistake” of classifying him as unfit for work and the meagre benefits that the Government have paid him.
They cannot have it both ways. Either he has been fit to work for the past ten years and their decisions have wrongly cost him ten years of his working life, or he is actually unfit for work, in which case the new reassessment is wrong.
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I agree Katherine. The government should start by assessing all those on benefits to find the free loaders so that they can be prosecuted and the money wasted on them redistributed to the people who realy need it. Oh wait, that is what they are proposing and what you are all moaning about.
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Nickolowski
Sigh – I’m not sure I can be bothered explaining it’s so obvious – but here goes anyway.
Let’s leave aside the immorality of targeting sick and dying people to save money and look at the economic facts.
Here we go. Ready?
Benefit fraud costs about 1 bn a year (government figures).
Tax evasion costs about 15 bn a year (government figures).
Take your socks off, add it up and you’ll see why the government is targeting the wrong people. The scroungers are the tax evaders and the bankers who caused the economic problems in the first place.
And before you put the blame on the previous government, remember this is a global recession. The clue’s in the word ‘global’.
It’s not rocket science.
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How right Aneurin Bevan was when he said, “No amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party…So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin.
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Wrong! The government always has money for wars and for the rich. Massive benefit fraud? At 0.5%? P-lease. Do your sums and check your facts before posting. Aren’t you embarrassed at being so gullible that you believe what you read in the Daily Hate Mail or The Scum? Where else do you find such stereotypical phrases such as ‘watching Jeremy Kyle all day’. It’s as if they’re working you from behind. Don’t be a puppet, get yourself educated. The vicious tabloids are filling your head with tosh, lies and distortion and it’s people like you – the baying mob – who lap it up and make it easy for the government to push through their fascist agenda.
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Good point, Peter. But I fear this government will have it both ways. They’ll just say that times have changed and the rules have changed (or they will duck out of it by blaming Labour – their usual tactic when cornered)
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Nickolowski.
Are you a Tory MP?
Or a moron?
Take this quick one question IQ test and find out:
https://tompride.wordpress.com/2011/12/07/tory-mp-or-moron-take-this-one-question-iq-test-and-find-out/
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I have never heard anything so upsetting.
I have had breast cancer and followed an
operation with chemotherapy and then radiotherapy.
Unless one has had the treatment I don’t think one can comment…but I can assure everyone that the ‘treatment’ makes one more ill than the cancer.
In my case I found that walking was difficult, the chemicals are so strong they affected my balance…i spent time having to crawl to the bathroom to vomit, stitches and then scars still there prove my point.
The stress of having cancer, the financial implications, the fear of the future and the many months of treatment makes this dis-ease almost unbearable. How typical of this government to compound these problems and add more stress to an already difficult situation.
Who will they target next? They are screwing the disabled, the unemployed, the old and now the sick…..is there no end to their unbelievably poor governing methods!
May I suggest they try to retrieve their banking losses by taxing the rich – and leave the rest of us to struggle alone.?
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Ewan,
Did it not occur to you many of these cancer patients have already paid into the system for fook sake man thing before you type.
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More money is lost in government fraud and error.
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Disgusting but don’t shock me in the slightest.lets hope they never have the big C …x
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Please sign the epetition on the directgov website to drop the health bill (unless you what the nhs privatised that is!) http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/22670 please pass on to anyone who might be interested.
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I think the government has a valid point. If someone undergoing treatment for cancer (or any other serious illness for that matter) is able to work then they should bloody well do so. Of course, I’m not suggesting that they do anything too taxing but surely, even someone laying in a hospital bed, semi-conscious with tubes going in and out of every orifice, should be more than capable of running a government department or something similar..
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yeah they still should be able to still work! just because they have been diagnosed with cancer! and just because they are having chemo does not mean they can not work! hope they wont mind me throwing up everywhere?? my work place that is!
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i find the whole issue too sickening to contemplate – 21 millionares telling us we are all in this together ffs what are people thinking of when they vote tory? they are great at taking tough and heartless decisions as long as it is not going to affectt hem and their own kind 😦
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Leon, Ewan was being ‘sarcastic’ / tongue in cheek about the government.
Interestingly tho’ the day this story was released it was ‘buried’ by another ‘story’ that a scientific study has found that “most cancers are self-inflicted”…! Well, pardon me for breathing / eating / living…
That, sadly, is how low this government will go – make the cancer patient ‘guilty’.
I despair for this country… 😦
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Sally.
Respectfully, I have to ask, if you were feeling ready to look for work, why on earth did you wait for a medical? ESA is for those who are and feel too ill to work at that moment.
If you felt ready, or even if you thought you just might be able to look for some work – even part time or voluntary – the JCP have trained advisers to assist you. What I’m trying to say is that you really didnt need to go through the trauma of a medical – especially when you were too ill to travel to the assessment centre and they had to go to you.
Oh, and EMP targets dont allow for too much discretion. They generally have to find fit for work or WRAG group. Officially, only around 6% are placed in, or retain, ‘support group’ status.
Sincerely happy you are beating your pain. Good Luck in your new, working, life 🙂
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Sorry Ziggy, you cannot sue a named individual who is ‘doing their job’ – no matter how arrogant or ignorant they are 😦 The County Court would probably not allow it anyway. What you can do is complain about the individual to the applicable department. Any actual lawsuit would be against the Minister in charge – ie Secretary of State – so ‘they’ have the big guns in their corner from the off.
I heard of a severely ill and disabled person who, after being denied DLA, sent full copies of their application (and I think evidence?) to IDS – just asking for his opinion on any applicable finding. As far as I am aware, despite his office signing for the package, he never did respond.
It would, I fear, need a few brave ‘whistleblowers’ and a representative sample of ‘victims’ to submit a test case (and have the money to ‘pay’ costs themselves).
Personally, I think I would rather use funds for ‘investigating’ certain ministers, or party supporters. Checking out their assets, business involvements, declared income, Properties, tax paid, etc etc… Easier said than done tho’
Oh dear, just read this back… How political do I sound?.. Tut, they’d turn a saint to crime.
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You could!
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it’s nothing less than genocide on the ill and disabled
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it would be a whole lot diff if it was there familey tho fucking wanker.
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you fucking lot voted thees wankers in rember that!!!!!!
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Yeah but the problem is the people who have voted for these policies are all so rich they won’t ever be affected by them.
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What a shower of evil bastards may they rot in in their own spurious shite.
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There’s a bill being discussed in parliament this week 1 Feb 12, to enable recall of an MP. on’t go through, of course… turkeys voting for christmas. It’s the only thing from the American system that is useful.
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Dave Hartnett at the HMRC (Tax office to the rest of us) has in the past year: Let Vodaphone off with a £4Billion yes Four BILLION tax bill – and promised not to chase them up if they do it again; let Goldman Sachs off with £20Million interest on their tax bill (which several other companies had to pay); made an agreement with the Swiss banking authorities to give companies over a year to find new homes for their tax-dodged millions, before telling the British govt. who (THEN) has money in their accounts; amongst other nefarious dodgy deals – many of them negotiated with a fella he’s got to know pretty well at .Deloittes. Having resigned FINALLY, I wonder where he’ll take up his next job??
Add to that – half of the tories have their millions siphoned out of the country to avoid paying tax to the country which has nurtured them – including the chancellor Osborne, who transferred his company to his wife’s name and SHE keeps the money in a tax haven. Meanwhile the genius Osborne does absolutely nothing to raise revenue.
So don’t bloody tell me it’s the sick and disabled that have this country in the financial shit it’s in, mate!!
…And telling sick people they are not ill does NOT make them healthy – – that’s Jesus’s job! (If you believe in him).
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Well put Rab.
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That’s pretty disgusting. I wonder if they’d be so emotionless about it if was their loved ones being poked or prodded to see if they were sick enough to merit being treated with a bit of compassion? I’ve signed it. x
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I agree with you, I hate the assumptions that anyone not working is in that situation through choice and their own laziness. I hate the venal way that so much of the public will turn on itself instead of confronting its real aggressors – a government with no empathy for the populace it represents.
That said, I think there is something to be said for directing community work to people who are really struggling with getting into employment. They SHOULD be paid for their time, and I don’t know how that would be managed. But I think if you’ve got someone bright who’s had a shit start in life, nothing in the way of a work history, and doesn’t even know where to begin in a closed, ‘sorry no jobs’ economy like this, getting them to put some hours in on something in their own community could help them towards a career, identify new skills and restore some pride (I’ve been unemployed and my god, it’s a drain on your self esteem, thinking ‘no-one wants my work, what am I fit for’ even when you know really you’ve tons to offer).
But it can’t just be free labour for nothing. That’s not fair. If you’re going to expect people to put work in to improve things around them, you’ve got to show them their work is worth something. They’re people, not drones. If the money isn’t there immediately, then you make (and keep) a promise about what you will pay them and when, and give them some choice about what they do. And there’s a big difference between getting people to help in their own communities, and getting people to work for free at Poundland so the company doesn’t have to pay them.
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Words fail me…..
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The tories will not even bother turning up at funerals. To the tory mind, it does not matter what state people may be in: alive, in good or poor health, dead…all are supposed to be fit for work. Plenty of opportunities for the dead out there: like digging their own plot, cleaning the crematorium, etc, etc…get on with it!
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O2 Is stepping up their censorship they are trying to force people to cough up £1 to prove that they are 18 or over b4 they can access this article. This time it took 2 tries (go back a page + try again.
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O2 Is stepping up their censorship they are trying to force people to cough up £1 to prove that they are 18 or over b4 they can access this article. They try to do thids via a site called Bango.net This time it took 2 tries (go back a page + try again.
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Cheers Michele – I’m looking into it.
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I’ve asked them to review the site. We’ll see what happens next.
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While, on the one hand I totally agree with what everyone has said here, there is another dynamic going on.
Which is: “What, EXACTLY, is cancer, and how is it cured?”.
And the answer is “A cancerous cell is one which is 60%, or more, oxygen-deficient”.
In 1930, Dr. Otto Warburg discovered that, under those circumstances, the oxygen was replaced by a “fermentation of glucose”. In 1932, he won a Nobel Prize for that research.
By the 1960s he was saying “I told everyone what cancer was in 1930, and that it was so simple, why are they continually searching for a ‘cancer cure’?”.
The cure for cancer is Vitamin B17. The cure for cancer does NOT require any form of surgery, radiation, or chemotherapy. Breast-screening (radiation) CAUSES cancer.
More information here:
http://www.pfnh.org/article.php?id=121
That’s an article on breast cancer, but all cancers are exactly the same thing. Cancer is a systemic, whole-body, disease. In other words “it’s in the entire blood-stream”.
Thus “cutting out a tumour” gives no guarantee of it being cured. (Bear in mind that the body’s Immune System can cope, to some extent … all by itself. It might be that the removal of a tumour only leaves enough for the Immune System to deal with. That MIGHT be the case, but it might NOT. The latter is what NHS Quacks call “recessions”. What that means, in practice, is – because they never attacked the root cause – thus sufficient cancer still remains – in the blood stream – that the Immune System could not deal with).
Not satire. Just my 2p, Tom. Just thought you ought to know. It’s your lives, to do what you will with them. Me/ I don’t have a GP any more. They are Quacks.
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this government is pushing through what amounts to the end of the welfare state in England / Wales. Private health insurance will soon be compulsory and friends in the Health provider business community waiting in the wings. While Scottish govt works hard to maintain the nhs universality in Scotland, a yes vote is essential to be able to continue, as if Scotland remains in UK (nightmare!) the Barnett formula will result in a squeeze on funds, which will ultimately result in terrible dilemmas for Scots Govt.
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S15 of the Equality Act 2010 makes unfavourable treatment arising as a consequence of a disability constitute discrimination
the facts speak for themsleves
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If you were, or are, actually fit for work and didn’t declare a change of circumstances or look for a job, you weren’t “trapped” on invalidity benefit, you were scrounging. You are one of the infinitesimal 0.5% of fraudulent claimants who give genuinely sick and disabled claimants a bad name. You should be prosecuted to the utmost extent of the law. It doesn’t surprise me in the least that you are a conservative
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why not? DWP has already held up probate on my sister in laws fathers estate for a year whilst they check whether he had “secret bank accounts” to avoid paying full council tax, going as far as to threaten his widow with criminal charges because “she’s bound to have counter signed things”. Of course they’ll drop any claim and investigation to free up the estate if the family agree to pay £2,500 Outrageous bullying by the state on all levels
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Whatever next, corpses being exhumed to ensure they are really dead instead of just can’t be bothered to go to work?
It’s time for change and I don’t see why we should wait for the next election, after all, the current government were not elected so we should have the right to have an election anytime
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This sickens me my dad died of cancer and because of the chemo he lost his hearing. Do they expect others to carry on working while not only fighting a potential life threatning illness coupled with debilitating treatment. Maybe they should trawl all the weatherspoon pubs and dig out all the low life scum who claim they cannot work due to bad backs and other non exsistant problems and stop their money. This in itself will save the economy millions ffs I so pissed off with this. There is an up-rising needed in this country for sure…..come the revolution and all that
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This is just ludicrous the government has gone completely mad We need to have a vote of no confidence & the coalition moved from office.
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Maybe I’m giving her more credit than she deserves but judging by her first paragraph I’m pretty sure Jane was being sarcastic about the ‘work-shy, uneducated’ part, and was trying rather to make the point that unemployed folk could be aided in getting back into work by being given work in the community that would benefit both them and the community as a whole. I’m not a fan of workfare programmes – they’re unpaid slave labour and are generally in places that offer no genuinely useful work experience in jobs that they’re being paid by the gov to provide when they could otherwise be employing folk and at least paying minimum wage for (rather than the paltry sums those on benefits receive) but all that being said, I _would_ be interested in a scheme that encouraged those folk who’re stuck on benefits with no prospect of work to do volunteer work in their local community, perhaps incentivised with a nominal extra sum. Mind you, that’ll never happen, since of course as we all know by now, you incentivise the RICH by offering them money, and the poor by threatening to take their money away…
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Fuckin bastards
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This is outrageous! Cancer patients need support at any stage of there recovery not given the third degree.
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@Mo
People have always been able to do voluntary work and Permitted Work on disability benefits. You don’t need to pay a private company billions for that to happen.
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Stripping needy and ill people of their few pounds a week is a cheaper way of hounding them to death than building gas ovens, I agree, Alpha.
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They killed him, d.
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I agree with you, Julie. If people want to be MPs they should live at the level a lot of folks have to. On benefits for at least a year.
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Sadly, this is by no means new news… It has been happening to folks for a while.
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if voting changed anything it would be illegal. we are all fucked.
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lets be honest the rich get richer the poor get poorer, its always been the way. If anyone has a solution id like to hear it.
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Reference:-
“Despite mass opposition from Lords, the public, their own supporters and the whole cancer community, the Government has pushed through an unfair proposal which means thousands of cancer patients – still recovering from their illness and therefore too sick to work – will see their income drop by up to £94 a week from April.”
Cancer is a very emotive subject, as we all know someone who has suffered this terrible disease. Naturally it will always draw sympathy & support in favour of the sufferer, & their closest kin.
Having said that, I would like to point out the following:-
I am a self employed shop keeper, who has been hit hard by the combination of the reccession, falling High Street shopping, increased internet shopping & the Big supermarkets taking all the local business & forcing small shops to close.
To that end, I have not been able to pay myself any kind of living wage, for fear of not being able to pay the rent / rates, & all other business overheads. That means I have had to use up all my savings to pay my mortgage & all over domestic living costs.
My savings are now all gone, so I had to cancel & cash in a life assurance policy, before it had matured to it’s full term. Consequently, I have lost several thousand pounds, in penalties. Now that has all gone, I have absolutely nothing left as a safety net, & no way of paying my mortgage etc. Soon the inevietable will happen & I will lose my home. This is simply because I am a ‘self employed homeowner’, & therefore DO NOT qualify for any government financial benefit, of any description.
If I had been renting, I might qualify for Domestic Council Tax Relief, help with accomodation rent costs (Housing benefit), & probably a few more that I am unfamiliar with.
What makes my predicament any different, just because I am self employed & a homeowner??.
I am about to lose my business, because I cannot pay the rent & business council tax, yet the charity shops taking over the town, do not pay any.
Until 6 months ago, I was only able to pay myself £80 per month from the business, now I cannot pay myself anything, despite still working 6 days a weeek.
£94 per week ………… I could only dream of earning that!!
Is it any wonder that I am sick up the back teeth of hearing of anyone that receives handouts from the state, when I have done nothing but pay into it…(43 years).. & when the time comes for me to ask for a little in return, I am told I can get absolutely Nothing.
Oh, & by the way, I have a reminder here in front of me that says I am outstanding on the last few months National Insurance payments!!! …. Which I am still expected to pay, or lose any entitlement to a pension.
Who makes up all these rules where the hardest working, get the least amount of respect & help?
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Public are complacent- The Daily Mail mentality reigns- It’s all about ‘immigrants and scroungers’ to them
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I believe the proper bureaucratic protocol will be to require the Estate representative to prove that the deceased cannot fulfill some job function, ie. door stop.
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totally agree hun what the hells going on with our so called country huh i have MS and NO ONE and i mean NO one will employ me … am i to be told ive got no right to my rights next, for goodness sake why in the world would u say u have cancer if u don;t huh???only some sick sick bastard would do this sorta thing mind you that reminds me of the government so maybe we should be able to check their business bet that would go down like a lead balloon. lets hope none of them get it huh!!! my dads just been diagnosed with cancer and I have no doubt he will be subjected to this madness, , but hey as long as the governments ok with it he an carry on!!!! bullshit man total bullshit . totally disgusted with out government,
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British Freedom Party…Do us a favour!
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No worse than the last lot!
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@ Chris – You will qualify for help if you have savings less than 16K (I think is the upper limit). I think you need to find out just what you are entitled to instead of knocking sick and disabled people who now have no choice but to claim benefits, many of whom have paid their National Insurance for years, only to have what is rightfully theirs pulled away by this despicable government.
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I am appalled to be british when our government believes this is alright. How daré you…….
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@ Pam. How low? Lower than Whale shit and that is at the bottom of the ocean, you cannot get lower than that. But no doubt they will manage. Anyone who previously thought there was no such thing as a ‘Class War’ going on in this country should re-evaluate their previous beliefs. This says it all.
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I have had not one but two lots of cancer. In between a mastectomy and starting chemo the first time, I discovered that my partner of 17 years had had an affair and a baby to someone else, threw him out and had to go through it all, care for my child practically, financially and emotionally alone, when he cleared off and dumped her, too red faced to face us. Later I was then diagnosed with another quite separate cancer, just as my brother and two friends were about to die of cancer. I was not in a fit state to work through all this, either mentally or physically. I had a job and sick pay, and if they had felt that I was somehow shirking, my employers would have been going through procedures to get rid of me. I then broke my arm and then after a few days after returning to work, I fell and tore three ligaments in my leg, ending up in a plaster cast for three months. (But apart from that I was fine!!)
I then had one of those lovely ATOS tests re my Employment Support Allowance and they stopped my top up benefits and told me to get back to work – obviously a shirker. I had every intention of getting back to work, had done so after two lots of cancer, but needed some counselling to fix my head first.
The ATOS test was a joke. The report kept saying that as I was not “rocking back and forth”, I had no mental health issues from all this. The decision by ATOS itself was like a sledgehammer at my lowest point, when the last time I had signed on was 32 years earlier, one signature for a fortnights benefits. Like I say, obviously a shirker.
After this experience, if I were to be ill again, I strangely wonder what their assessment criteria would be as to whether someone would be fit for work. With ATOS I scored zero out of 15 points and asked what exactly has to happen for you to score even one point? When I appealed it, I won. Cheers ATOS. I have a sneaking suspicion that like ATOS, it will result in many many immoral decisions, which like ATOS, will push some folks over the edge or make them feel so ill that they will end up losing their battle. I believe that there are something like 11 people a month who die after having been assessed fit for work by them.
Feel free to pass on my story if it helps to fight the decisions of this heartless government who are intent on cutting back every service, when those services were in place to support those people most in need, rather than touching those that are best off.
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I appealed my decision and won. It took 10 months however to get to court and caused immeasurable stress. I am fairly articulate and decided to appeal though it was only for a few weeks money before I had gone back to work anyway, in order to try and influence future decisions. I posted my own story today, but repeat here that I had last claimed 32 years earlier for one fortnight and the absolute kick in the teeth of being deemed a shirker at my lowest point was horrendous, such that when I went back to work, feeling that I had absolutely no safety net should I be ill again, this actually made me spiral downwards. I was back at work, but not far off being a zombie, with a complex and difficult job to do. Really I was not fit to be there. When my appeal was rubber stamped after only 10 minutes in court, though I was vindicated, the courts decision could not take away the stress I had had to go through in the 10 month wait, stress which can and no doubt does kill some people.
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This is outrageous how can this be justified
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I’m beginning to think the government strategy mirrors that of the American health insurance industry – deny all claims initially because a statistically significant percentage will not appeal thereby ‘saving’ so many dollars (despite enormous adverse impact on the claimant). It IS immoral as are so many decisions made by conservative governments worldwide.
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It’s a pity these responses are so full of bile, this is what the Tories want. You make a point and get shot down and accused of being a moron. It is true, benefit fraud costs billions, it is true bankers bonuses are hard for Tories to grab. Also though much more is being bled from tax breaks, benefits like millionaires getting bus passes and fuel allowances whilst other pensioners freeze to death.. People rich enough to hire accountants save tens or hundreds of thousand each year-much much more than benefit fraud. Yet Cameron and Ozzy are strangely silent on the things their mates and fathers get and got up to to avoid tax.
Sad that Tories have succeeded in pitting us against each other. Of course cancer patients should not go through this, but to say the benefit system is working well until Tories was a lie. I am keen for Tory/middle class tax dodging to be clamped down on heavily as this would give us the billions needed to help the sick, old and out of work with a proper chance and not this system that only works if you now how to play the game, something most pensioners and others do not.
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Good leave the rest of us to have more time with them. B17 does not cure all cancers.
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Meanwhile, Sir Philip Green, Vodafone, Starbucks, Ebay, Amazon etc. get away with paying little or no tax!
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Let’s see how you feel in a few months when nobody will employ you because you’re too sick, they don’t have enough liability insurance to cover you and you’re, quite simply, far too old at 50 to be employed, because that’s what’s facing you.
Disabled with chronic osteoarthritis, very limited mobility, anterior neuropathy, managed depression and just about to undergo major surgery with long rehab period? With all of these disabilities, there is NO way anyone is going to employ you and
The only disability YOU are suffering from is the fact that you are an outright liar and, I suspect, a Tory Troll. I would suggest you get out of here before you get eaten alive by people like me… 62 years old, worked all of my life, including 11 years of military service and in the Gulf War, got leukaemia when I was 59 and was on Incapacity Benefit until I received my pension at 61.
Until you have walked a mile in MY shoes, you cretin, you had better slink back into whatever hole you crawled into, sharpish like.
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I am also a survivor Lee, Leukaemia, diagnosed in 2011, a year of a hospital stay, three bouts of chemo later and then a stem cell transplant, I am now in remission, but the after effects of the chemo linger on, along with graft versus host disease, where your new immune system attacks your organs. My hair fell out but has now grown back. Even a year on I am badly fatigued and people forget the amount of medication you have to take, just to keep infections and viruses at bay. They forget about things like peripheral neuropathy which can affect your ability to walk, pick things up and takes away control of the nerve that operates your anal sphincter meaning that you need to be constantly near a toilet. Travelling is a source of dread for me, because once the spincter fails, it just happens. If you are not near a toilet, you are screwed basically Gruesome statement, but it has to be said. During the chemo you feel exhausted and nauseous. Yes they give you anti nausea meds, but they all make you feel sleepy and the side effect warn you not to operate machinery or drive a vehicle. The diarrhoea is horrendous and at any point you could be spewing from both ends. Who at a company premises is going to help you when these things happen? Who is going to help you clean yourself up when you’ve covered the toilet cubicle with shit?
The company wouldn’t, they would just find a way to get rid of you.
The fact is that the government don’t really want us all in jobs, they just want to be SEEN to be ‘doing something about the scroungers’ so that they can justify all of the vile, hateful rhetoric about us. In short, they actually do want us all to die.
“If they are going to die, then they should do it and decrease the surplus population”
A comment made above said that they want to divide us as a people and I agree with the poster that they have done it. All of the so called strivers with their now scream about their hard earned taxes going to support us useless scroungers. Despite the fact that many of us so called scroungers have worked for over thirty years AND paid taxes and NI contributions. They are convinced that the only way to pay off the deficit is to get rid of people who are considered to be too useless to work.
“First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out–
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out–
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out–
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me–and there was no one left to speak for me.” – Martin Niemöller
He missed one out in fact, because when they came for the sick, disabled and vulnerable of Germany, nobody spoke out for them, because after all they were nothing but pieces of useless flesh to the then government of the country. The Nazi government started their pogrom on the sick, disabled etc quite a while before they actually started it on the Jewish population.
When we are gone, who will speak for the ordinary people when the government come for them? Because it’s patently obvious that they will not speak for themselves, they think that it cannot happen to them because they are not shirkers and scroungers. I have news for them and it’s ALL bad.
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Sorry, but you ARE a Tory Troll aren’t you? Has the past couple of years completely passed you by or have you spent them with your head up your fundamental orifice? They already ARE assessing people on benefits and the official figures show that only 0.5% of people on benefits are claiming fraudulently! Those are YOUR beloved governments figures, not something I pulled out of my backside. Perhaps you’re just posting this verbal diarrhoea to check out whether we all understand what it being done to us on behalf of your masters. Go back and tell them that we do understand and that we’re gunning for them.
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And people who have a life threatening illness are wasters? I sincerely hope you never get cancer or anything like it.
Actually strike that… I hope you do, so you understand fully the ramifications of your stupid, ill judged comment.
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I didn’t
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Vitamin B17 has no effect on cancers of the blood system, like Leukaemia which I have. I think it’s clear to me that you don’t have any form of cancer otherwise you wouldn’t be posting this twaddle.
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You will at least have your life Chris, which is more than the rest of us will be left with when the cancer has finished with us.
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MaccMillan petition taken down “We’re sorry but this action has now closed, however
we’re continuing to campaign on the issue. “
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AS a Leukaemia sufferer I can tell you that this is going to cause a lot of problems because for many forms of the more aggressive blood cancer diseases, like AML which is the version I have, you are an in patient for weeks and in isolation when you become neutropenic, i.e. you have no immune system because the chemo regime is designed to destroy all of your cells in the bone marrow. I was in hospital for nearly eight weeks the first cycle, then I was allowed home for two weeks, then six weeks for the second cycle and six weeks for the third. And if you have a stem cell transplant, you are immuno suppressed until your new immune system is fully developed, i.e. for up to two years after the transplant. You have NO immunities of your own after the stem cell transplant, all your childhood immunities to things like chicken pox, measles, german measles, mumps etc have gone. Even immunities that you might have built against the common cold are all gone. You cannot go among the public because of fear of infection which might make the ordinary person mildly ill, but which is life threatening for us. Visitors have to stay away if they are ill themselves and if a person in your household is ill you have to disinfect everything and wear a mask. So do they have to wear a mask.
Going to the chemotherapy/radiotherapy clinic every week or every day in the case of some patients both in Haematology and Major organ cancers is bad enough. The treatment takes days out of your life. If you are going every day, you simply cannot just get your treatment and go to work, not unless your work is okay with you spewing out vomit and diarrhoea from both ends all over the office. And this is projectile vomit and projectile diarrhoea. I couldn’t even get from the bed to the toilet in time when I was in hospital, and all the time you are crying because you feel so ill and with embarrassment because you can’t stop it. This vomiting etc starts almost as soon as the chemo hits your system.
After chemo and radiotherapy, you are utterly debilitated and utterly exhausted. The chemotherapy is POISON. It’s not just some course of antibiotics, although they give you those as well as anti-fungal medicine, antiviral medicine, extra potassium, lansaprozole because the chemo destroys the lining of your gut along with all of the healthy bacteria. In your recovery phase. you may be able to do a couple of hours work after a few months, but chemotherapy also kills off your brain cells making it difficult to concentrate and it can also give you things like peripheral neuropathy which is nerve damage mainly to the feet, legs, and the nerves controlling your anal sphincter and your bladder causing you to be instantly incontinent; and pads don’t help to keep it in. I had a very bad experience when I was trying to go out, I was at the bus stop and my bowels just opened. Luckily there were two women at the stop and they helped me to a local Spa therapy shop who had a shower where I could clean up, then the manager took me home. So now I am frightened to go out in case the same thing happens. My life has changed and although I am lucky in that I am now retired, I know exactly what every cancer patient of working age must be suffering right now.
I am not going to apologise for the graphic nature of my post, People need to know just what cancer patients go through in order to be cured of this hideous life threatening illness. And the irony is that even when you are in remission, as I am right now, you can still relapse, you are NEVER cured. I will have to attend the Royal Marsden for the rest of my life, however long that might be.
I can soon see hospitals like the Marsden which is a cancer hospital getting furious every time the DWP demands that their patients go through tests to prove that they are sick. I can’t even imagine what kind of tests those might be! Tests to prove they have the cancer? They’ve already done those or you wouldn’t be there. Tests to prove you aren’t going to throw up over your desk? Well my suggestion to any cancer patient who manages to get to these tests is to throw up, preferably over the desk of the assessor and soil the chair you are sitting in because believe me, you won’t be able to help yourself anyway.
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Paying into a system that supposed to help you when youre down doesn’t count for shyte under this coalition run slaughterhouse unless you’re an (illegal)immigrant or a health tourist
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To make sure G4S bill the treasury for tagging them?
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Nasty indeed? How long before the government commissions ‘The Dancing On Their Graves” multi-media package lest there are those forget that each lonely death of poverty is a cause for celebration.
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well there may be so odd gold teeth to remove!!
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Anne, I do hope my comment re the MacMillan petition being closed didn’t suggest I am in anyway in agreement with the the suggestion that people on chemo should be forced into looking for work.
There’s no need to apologise for the graphic nature of the results of your chemo. If they were more widely publicised perhaps stupid and heartless initiatives like this wouldn’t be considered.
I heartily agree that vomiting over the assessor’s desk and soiling the chair would be appropriate except for the damage to your health and dignity in being forced to attend for assessment in the first place.
My sincere wishes for the chemo to improve your health.
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Not at all Clutter, I know the MacMillan people are furious that their efforts on our behalf have been ignored by this murderous and evil government. Yes vomiting or the other over the desk might be embarrassing for us, but honestly, when it happens you can’t stop it anyway, bus, train, assessor’s desk, they’re all likely to have it happen at some point.
Thank you, I have currently gone into remission which I am delighted about, no more treatment, not for the moment anyway, but the side effects live on! I have already written to my MP and anyone I think will listen, but I have a feeling my account of having cancer will fall on deaf ears. Already I get comments that this person or that knows somebody who worked ALL the way through their treatment and would have been horrified if someone suggested they take it easy. Yeah yeah, quite obviously they didn’t have the kind of aggressive treatment I had and if anyone asked that person about how they really felt about having to go to work and deal with the aftermath of chemo, I bet you that they only went back in order to please the company who don’t like people taking lots of sick days, even if they ARE suffering from a life threatening illness.
Somebody burn the soapbox!!!
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@ Gary Broadhurst: Actually, they’ll show up to assess the corpse for post mortem jobs such as preservation testing and vulture feeding.
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@ Grey Murphy: I might be able to scrounge up some PE4 for him if you’d pass it on for me. /jk
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Appalling….. Hopefully these self-serving, corrupt, feckless bastards will be voted into history at the next election… Either that or the population will explode into revolution..My only regret if this happens will be the fact that I’ll be too bloody old to join in!
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HOW MANY MORE TIMES?? STOP BLAMING THOSE WEAKER THAN YOU & CRITICIZE THE AUTHORITIES!!! IT IS THEY WHO CREATE & SUSTAIN POVERTY IN THE FIRST PLACE!!. IN THE 1980s THE THATCHER REGIME WAS HAPPY TO MOVE THE UNEMPLOYED ONTO SICKNESS BENEFIT TO MAKE THE UNEMPLOYMENT COUNT SEEM LESS. TORIES USE POVERTY AS AN ECONOMIC WEAPON TO DRIVE DOWN WAGES & LIMIT PEOPLE’S WORKING-RIGHTS. WHY DO THE ENGLISH SELF-EMPLOYED ALWAYS INSIST ON LOOKING DOWN FOR THE BLAME?. HOW ABOUT SOME HARSH WORDS FOR THE BANKSTERS & TAX EVADERS??
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Chris, unlike yourself cancer sufferers are usually too ill to undertake any kind of work, you could always give up your shop and seek employment elsewhere which would then allow you to earn a living wage it is your choice to carry on being self employed.,
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Its about time the government started looking after the people who were born here instead of taking everything of us to give to people who come over here from foreign countries. Im not a racist person but they get everything when they get here, we have to literally beg, now they r taking yet more money off people who really need it. WHEN WILL IT END
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Oh ffs. When will you learn to stop scapegoating other groups? Disabled against immigrants. Young against old. Deserving vs undeserving. When will you learn that you’re playing right into the government’s hands? We need to be united against all the real fraudsters – the obscene bankers’ bonuses, the obscene MPs pay rises, the obscene CEOs may, the obscene tax evasion and avoidance? It’s utter poppycock that people from other countries ‘get everything they want here’.
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This is exactly what the government wants, I am truly sorry for your loss (my mum died of lung cancer) but you cannot lay the blame on the 0.7 % of people fraudulently claiming disability benefits. If the massive tax avoidance and MP’s expenses loopholes were closed this would make a huge difference. Fighting amongst the poor and disenfranchised only serves to distract from the true ‘scoungers’ politicians, bankers and tax avoiders.
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Flash – you do realise that the fraud rate on any benefit it tiny, 0.5 %. Also, those that go to the pub for a drink have that right and are not claiming falsely. They are entitled to some sort of a life and some rest and relaxation, unless you are trying to say that all benefit claimants must live a life without seeing anyone, going anywhere, boring, dull, reclusive, no fun,……? You are as bad as the bloody government with that spiteful comment.
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Actually, it is not poppycock that immigrants and migrants get everything they want here. They do. They get benefits and housing immediately, whilst british homeless people are on the streets or in awful temporary accommodation and have to wait months for benefits. I happen to know this happens. I took in a British homeless man who had brain and stomach cancer living in our park. He was not considered to have enough points to qualify for housing. Yet, the block of flats next to me, also social housing, Bulgarians and Romanians were moving in! They had their benefits to live on. It is a bloody disgrace. The man died in my flat, but not alone. He had me. If I had not taken him and given him what food I could afford, and some sort of comfort, he would have died on the park bench. Before you spout off rubbish, try doing your homework first.
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Actually it’s you who needs to do your homework. Read my previous post again and then go and seek out facts before you start spewing out your prejudices. You know everyone’s circumstances because…? The people would tell you all their private business because…?
Yes, it is outrageous what this government are doing to the sick and disabled and making people homeless by slashing social security and introducing the bedroom tax but you must be a bit dense if you don’t question why the rich pay no bedroom tax, and why they can award themselves huge bonuses and people like you let them off scot free.
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My mum had stage 4 cervical cancer was made to go to a back to work interview or they would reduce her £72 a week income support by £20 a week, I rang explaining my mum was terminally ill with only months to live but they still made her attend ! I took her there as she was to worried that she couldn’t afford to loose that £20 With a teenage daughter to feed n clothe ( my sis being jus 15 at the time ) I begged her not to go said fuk em mum I’ll give u the 20 quid a week they stop you, but she wouldn’t let me, she went sat thru a 20 min interview to be told at the end ” at this present time mrs …. You are deemed unfit for work but we will review yr circumstances in 6mths” my mum replied with ” love I’ll be dead in 6 mths so don’t waste yr paper sendin me an appointment ” 12days later my 51yr old mum passed away, looks like piss all av changed since 5yrs ago ! All I can say is I have one word for the government WANKERS!!! I apologise for my very big reply to your comment aswel sorry,
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I think this is way out of line and not fair this is a serious illness sometimes incurable for some the government need to get some compassion and respect the treatment leaves people drained very sick this is disgraceful shame on them get Cameron out!
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My mum also had terminal stage 4 cancer-lung cancer.
She applied for DLA and was sent a letter saying she needed an ‘assessment’ at a centre…she was too weak to walk and cried at the thought of the stress of it.
She died before the appointment date!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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@ mel Beasley, they need to so they can collect the death tax they are introducing, labour are introducing the same. I fear that if labour get in nothing will change, they are already stating that welfare reforms will remain as they are. Only one option for me now and it starts with a U and ends with P.
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So where are all these jobs paying wages for hanging over a toilet bowl? Because seeing Armitage Shanks at close range is about the only thing you’re capable of during chemotherapy! I feel we are only a few steps away from compulsory euthanasia, the way things are going …
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Reminiscent of activities in the 2nd world war Europe!!
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